Wow, major neglect resulting in the death of someone having a maximum payout of £15k is just insulting. I’d rather have nothing from them.
The family were awarded only £15k. That man must have truly suffered at the hands of this hospital. What the actual fuck? Where are the consequences? And what’s going to stop this hospital doing this again?
Time for total reformation of the NHS, top to bottom. Been saying it for years.
I’ll never stick my daughter in care, or even let her into the health system without a support person and one of us being there to help her.
Poor guy was disabled and fractured his hip first night in care, then goes to hospital and gets starved to death. Fuck that!
The number of points of failure in this is insane.
1. Where are the medics noticing he’s NBM with no alternative
2. Where are the nurses planning for their patient
3. Where are dietitians making plans for enteral feeding
4. Where are Speech therapy to assess degree of dysphagia
5. Where are the pharmacists noticing there’s no meds being given
6. Where are the learning disabilities team
7. Where is this man’s eating and drinking regime for at home to guide needs on admission
In truth, this is probably a symptom of a system of people operating solely in silos and then spread too thin to save money. Obviously documentation is the easy scapegoat and definitely played a role but there are too many points before documentation that had to fail first.
Quite literally starved to death. How is this even an accident? Wtf?
I’d love to say this is shocking but realistically I think we all know it’s to be expected given the current state of things.
The note keeping is surely a problem, but needing to rely on notes to not let, or even notice, someone starving to death is the bigger one.
This should be classed as a never event:
_Never Events are serious, largely preventable patient safety incidents that should not occur if the available preventative measures have been implemented._
And the family should be properly compensated for this tragedy.
£15k compensation for that level of negligence is disgraceful.
So they starved the patient to death?
Austerity – it will be in the history books, the same way we learned about the potato famines
It is clear that medical care in the UK is not trustworthy, having some kind of first aid training, medical knowledge and some basic medical supplies at home is becoming increasingly important.
You need to be able to treat the bad cut, burn, broken bone whatever, because NHS help is hours away, then even if you see a doctor they may inadvertently kill you anyway.
My mum was on a hospital ward and was mistakenly marked nil by mouth as the nurse in charge of her ward had her mixed up with a patient with a similar name who *was* supposed to be nil by mouth. The nurse spoke very poor English. I gave up trying to communicate with the nurse and snuck in bottles of water my mum could hide under her bed to drink because thankfully my mum isn’t special needs just was very unwell at the time.
I was too young to know what else to do and didn’t know things like patient liaison existed.
I’m genuinely certain my mum would have died that weekend if I hadn’t done that. I’m sure this happens much more than we know about.
Not to be nasty because he was downs syndrome and suffered with dementia he is economically worth nothing. The government had not changed the law , so the family had to pay the hospitals.
The whole thing is a disgrace systems should have been in place to stop this happening.
NHS really is useless. How can you forget to feed someone, what the actual fuck. The useless sack of shit responsible for this patient should be given manslaughter charges
My uncle went in for an outpatient procedure. They made a mistake meaning he had internal bleeding, which was missed, which progressed into sepsis and then septic shock. In hospital he was deteriorating and my aunt noticed the nurses were missing antibiotic intervals and marking ‘normal’ obs when his markers were severely out of range and getting worse. She had to call the head of the surgery department to speak directly to the nurses. He ended up getting MRSA and pneumonia in hospital and my aunt took three weeks off work to stay by his side and manage his care plan. If she hadn’t done that he would have died.
The same thing happened to a family friend who went in for the same outpatient procedure. Both now have permanent stomas.
Our mum was in hospital early last year with a bad kidney infection she was in for 4 weeks and had dementia. The nurses told us they did not have time to make sure she was eating and asked us as a family to be there at mealtimes to try and get her to eat. It was hard work as we all have jobs. There were 4 patients all elderly in the ward the porter would bring the meals and just leave them in front of the patients no one else came to check they were eating then he would come back later with his trolley and take the dishes away regardless if they ate anything. The level of care was shocking and having been there seeing it I would never want to leave an elderly relative in hospital for any length of time
The way people with learning disabilities are treated while hospitalised is disgusting. I am a support worker for adults with learning disabilities and, because most of them cannot advocate for themselves, they are left alone. One client, who was without sight, had her food left out of reach on numerous occasions, despite the staff being told not to. I could go on.
I know from experience that this is *not* some rare freak error. This kind of neglect of people with vulnerabilities – cognitive impairments, learning disabilities, etc – is absolutely commonplace. And it has been for the last ten years. Anyone who can’t advocate for themselves, and who lacks family that can be intensively involved in their care to advocate for them, is genuinely left to rot.
The **great** (/s) thing about it happening to people without family to advocate for them is that there’s also no family to dig for details about the injury or death. So it goes entirely swept under the rug or entirely unnoticed .
Having seen what I’ve seen, I have no intention of growing old in this system. Social care will not protect you; the NHS will not protect you.
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Wow, major neglect resulting in the death of someone having a maximum payout of £15k is just insulting. I’d rather have nothing from them.
The family were awarded only £15k. That man must have truly suffered at the hands of this hospital. What the actual fuck? Where are the consequences? And what’s going to stop this hospital doing this again?
Time for total reformation of the NHS, top to bottom. Been saying it for years.
I’ll never stick my daughter in care, or even let her into the health system without a support person and one of us being there to help her.
Poor guy was disabled and fractured his hip first night in care, then goes to hospital and gets starved to death. Fuck that!
The number of points of failure in this is insane.
1. Where are the medics noticing he’s NBM with no alternative
2. Where are the nurses planning for their patient
3. Where are dietitians making plans for enteral feeding
4. Where are Speech therapy to assess degree of dysphagia
5. Where are the pharmacists noticing there’s no meds being given
6. Where are the learning disabilities team
7. Where is this man’s eating and drinking regime for at home to guide needs on admission
In truth, this is probably a symptom of a system of people operating solely in silos and then spread too thin to save money. Obviously documentation is the easy scapegoat and definitely played a role but there are too many points before documentation that had to fail first.
Quite literally starved to death. How is this even an accident? Wtf?
I’d love to say this is shocking but realistically I think we all know it’s to be expected given the current state of things.
The note keeping is surely a problem, but needing to rely on notes to not let, or even notice, someone starving to death is the bigger one.
This should be classed as a never event:
_Never Events are serious, largely preventable patient safety incidents that should not occur if the available preventative measures have been implemented._
And the family should be properly compensated for this tragedy.
£15k compensation for that level of negligence is disgraceful.
So they starved the patient to death?
Austerity – it will be in the history books, the same way we learned about the potato famines
It is clear that medical care in the UK is not trustworthy, having some kind of first aid training, medical knowledge and some basic medical supplies at home is becoming increasingly important.
You need to be able to treat the bad cut, burn, broken bone whatever, because NHS help is hours away, then even if you see a doctor they may inadvertently kill you anyway.
My mum was on a hospital ward and was mistakenly marked nil by mouth as the nurse in charge of her ward had her mixed up with a patient with a similar name who *was* supposed to be nil by mouth. The nurse spoke very poor English. I gave up trying to communicate with the nurse and snuck in bottles of water my mum could hide under her bed to drink because thankfully my mum isn’t special needs just was very unwell at the time.
I was too young to know what else to do and didn’t know things like patient liaison existed.
I’m genuinely certain my mum would have died that weekend if I hadn’t done that. I’m sure this happens much more than we know about.
Not to be nasty because he was downs syndrome and suffered with dementia he is economically worth nothing. The government had not changed the law , so the family had to pay the hospitals.
The whole thing is a disgrace systems should have been in place to stop this happening.
NHS really is useless. How can you forget to feed someone, what the actual fuck. The useless sack of shit responsible for this patient should be given manslaughter charges
My uncle went in for an outpatient procedure. They made a mistake meaning he had internal bleeding, which was missed, which progressed into sepsis and then septic shock. In hospital he was deteriorating and my aunt noticed the nurses were missing antibiotic intervals and marking ‘normal’ obs when his markers were severely out of range and getting worse. She had to call the head of the surgery department to speak directly to the nurses. He ended up getting MRSA and pneumonia in hospital and my aunt took three weeks off work to stay by his side and manage his care plan. If she hadn’t done that he would have died.
The same thing happened to a family friend who went in for the same outpatient procedure. Both now have permanent stomas.
Our mum was in hospital early last year with a bad kidney infection she was in for 4 weeks and had dementia. The nurses told us they did not have time to make sure she was eating and asked us as a family to be there at mealtimes to try and get her to eat. It was hard work as we all have jobs. There were 4 patients all elderly in the ward the porter would bring the meals and just leave them in front of the patients no one else came to check they were eating then he would come back later with his trolley and take the dishes away regardless if they ate anything. The level of care was shocking and having been there seeing it I would never want to leave an elderly relative in hospital for any length of time
The way people with learning disabilities are treated while hospitalised is disgusting. I am a support worker for adults with learning disabilities and, because most of them cannot advocate for themselves, they are left alone. One client, who was without sight, had her food left out of reach on numerous occasions, despite the staff being told not to. I could go on.
I know from experience that this is *not* some rare freak error. This kind of neglect of people with vulnerabilities – cognitive impairments, learning disabilities, etc – is absolutely commonplace. And it has been for the last ten years. Anyone who can’t advocate for themselves, and who lacks family that can be intensively involved in their care to advocate for them, is genuinely left to rot.
The **great** (/s) thing about it happening to people without family to advocate for them is that there’s also no family to dig for details about the injury or death. So it goes entirely swept under the rug or entirely unnoticed .
Having seen what I’ve seen, I have no intention of growing old in this system. Social care will not protect you; the NHS will not protect you.