Sounds jolly good fun and all, but I’m really quite attached to my legs.
People had similar reactions in the build up to WW2. Men didn’t want to fight. However when your country is under threat of invasion then it really kicks off. You can frame it as “fighting for your country” but really, you’re fighting for your own life, your wife, your kids, all your loved ones. At that point there only one option and that’s to go to war. These polls are pretty much useless because people will answer in a way that voices an opinion on the current state of the country. The reality would be considerably different.
The feeling that you’re putting your life on the line and risking permanent damage in order to further the aims of people who have hidden agendas and/ or intend making billions from your efforts without taking any risk themselves. And being party to war crimes.
The experience of british people over centuries…
Edit: Would answer the call provided the rich people and politicians and their offspring do likewise.
Had all my reasons mentioned. I’d never accept going to war, I’d simply leave the country.
Because the pay is shit, you live in shit conditions. Once your time is up? You get treated like shit by DWP. Oh and people generally, as a rule, don’t like being shot at.
Being forced to sign up is never going to happen so its all mute. But how are you going to trains thousands of new recruits, and kit them out in military gear? The army barely have enough for their own
Id rather go to prison than fight for this crooked government.
Firstly – why would we need to?
Having a nuclear deterrent should mean that conscription is never necessary again. Invading the UK is a suicide mission.
Secondly – why do we even give a fuck about ground forces?
One of the benefits of being on an island surely means we don’t need to send millions of footsloggers to their death to defend the country. We can support our allies better by having a larger and more advanced navy and air force.
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The armed forces has been making an effort to make it clear they don’t want any more white men. I would hate to ruin their diversity statistics.
I would never fight for a Tory government, let them send their sons and daughters first
Why would I fight a war for our government that couldn’t give less of a shit about ordinary people if they tried? Get fucked, Rishi.
Because our government might want us to serve them but they won’t serve us
Bit difficult to sign up when you’re the bad guy. If we were under threat I’d sign up. I’m of no use, being disabled and all, but I can work in other fields. I’ll look after the ponies
We’re older, fatter, and less nationalistic. Which means less people in the age range for recruitment, less people in the age range fit for recruitment, and less people who are fit are willing to join.
None of these things are new, I was reading BBC articles a decade ago about how the militaries primary recruiting demographics were in long term decline.
Realistically there’s nothing that is going reverse any of these trends, so the militaries recruiting pool is just going to continue shrinking.
The government has the right to remove citizenship from my family without warning or opportunity to appeal including when they’re on holiday abroad.
My loyalty to this country is set to a reciprocal level.
Can’t we ask the WW2 fetishists first? You know the type, mark francois, de piffle, farage, Littlejohn? Not.my circus, not my monkeys, and I’ll make damn sure my kids won’t either.
Not that much to fight for, those who survive will do gig jobs and rent a room in a sharehouse for the rest of their lives.
Going half way around the world to kill an Iraqi for Halliburton? Fuck that.
Standing shoulder to shoulder with my European brothers and sisters against an existential threat to keep what’s ours. Yes.
I’m 37, have really poor eyesight and I have M.E. I’d be useless.
Why fight for a country, that only needs me when they’re scared, but will vilify me when they’re safe.
>Why won’t Britons serve in the armed forces if called?
Because the country is shite and full of cunts
What am I fighting for exactly?
People who drive BMWs and behave like dickheads on the road because they think they’re cool?
Floppy haired zoomers hanging out in the park pretending they’re in a gang listening to grime and eyeballing everybody that walks past?
People who go out and splash all their cash on material shit just to flex while I struggle to pay my bills?
All those people having babies to live on benefits while I work full time and struggle financially?
What about all those people with opposing political views that try to cancel each other and witch hunt rather than trying to understand opposing views?
No thanks. I don’t want to die for the rich.
If the fighting comes to England then I’ll fight for my loved ones; but am I fuck fighting for this country.
You’ve spent decades beating the national pride out of Brits and humiliating them by decimating their communities and kneecapping their quality of life. Telling everyone but them to be proud of their heritage and history, while telling Brits they need to be uniquely ashamed and repentant for things that happened before they were born.
You cannot slam the Betray button at every opportunity and expect people to respond with loyalty.
Fourteen years of austerity, recession, poverty and division. I’ve spent a decade seeing my friends and family being told they’re not fit to exist in this country.
And they wanna give me a gun?
Bit brave tbh
It highlights the detachment in people, especially fighting age men from their country.
Leading up to WW2, they had a view and idea of what the UK was. There existed an idea of British culture and a way of life. They worked for a British company, making a British product. Now we work for a Chinese CEO for an American company, selling an intangible product. They cannot afford a home to protect.
I can’t afford a house and the government are a bunch of landlords who are happy to continue screwing me and anyone else who isn’t a fellow billionaire property developer. I will likely not receive a pension and if I do, it’ll be at the age of 75 after being told I’m not too frail for call centre or supermarket work. I’m threatened with arrest and a criminal record if I want to peacefully protest any of this.
Why *should* I or anyone else under the age of 60 risk their life for this country when it so clearly hates them?
I mean, I’m a 35 year old woman so it’s highly unlikely I’d ever be drafted anyway but every 18 year old lad in the country has my support to tell the government to go fuck itself.
Why should I fight in a war caused by corrupt, incompetent self serving governments? They don’t represent me and I certainly won’t represent them in anyway whatsoever.
Like every war in the past if you are the cannon fodder then you are expendable as an individual, but hopefully enough of the mass survive to maintain the lifestyle of the rich who caused or profited from the war. Modern technology be it social media, mass communication systems or even contempory films and reporting show that more loose than gain in the end. The genie is out of the bottle and the modern population know a lot more than past generations were aware of.
We should all band together and go to war, against the elite who’ve fucked the country for decades.. we can take back all the land from the aristocrats while we’re at it.
There is no reason to fight and risk my life for an ungrateful political system intent on filling it’s own pockets.
So quite frankly get knotted
I’d fight for my friends and family. Fuck rich men and their disagreements.
Who wants to go fight wars for the rich? I’d rather live thanks.
because they rejected me as my left ear could not hear the high frequency properly. Their top nurse said I aint fit enough. So yeah that hurt a bit so dont think they will ever let me in. Sad part was, I trained, lost weight, improved running and strength so i can get told my hearing is a issue. I do understand why they did this, they just dont want people to sue them for damage in health and safety etc.
Send the ruling class and the rich first.
If they’re unable to do the job and up dead and broken, I might think about having a go.
This country hasn’t done an awful lot for me, why does it expect me to put my life on the line for it?
This is why we had the post-war consensus. Several generations fought in the wars, and we developed an understanding that when the people serve their country, their country ought to look after them in return. Then Thatcher tore all that down and now we just have an every man for himself society. So what do they expect. It’s not exactly rocket science.
People don’t join the army to fight for the interests of American foreign policy, City of London family companies, and foreign investment property speculators.
Why should I?
– I can’t afford to buy a house.
– My retirement age increases.
Let the boomers go and fight, the ones who moaned about my generation (millennial) for the last 20+ years, being the worst generation etc, whilst our living standards get progressively worse.
I’m not fighting for a country that wants to milk me of every penny in taxes, council tax, high fuel costs etc. what do I get in return?
What would the Brits be fighting for exactly?
Continuous handouts to people who have not paid a penny into the system? Also allowing people into the country who actively express a hatred for the British public and our culture/institutions. (Many are not from war torn countries and therefore not refugees)
A health system where the budget keeps growing but so do the wait times?
To continue to not be able to buy our own homes?
To be told that if you’re native and your white, not only that you’re a despicable human everyday but institutions and company’s will seek to hire anyone other than you to fulfil diversity quota’s.
That if you show any pride in your nation or its history, you are racist bigot and if you then try to adopt another culture, you are guilty of cultural appropriation.
That you have little to no say in your child’s education in public schools and you will be fined if you dare take them out of class on any day other than the prescribed holidays.
To be taxed 100 different ways before you can actually buy anything? Inheritance, income, VAT. selling. Etc…
Shit weather…
Lockdowns when the government feels like it as they go out and party. Whilst family members died alone with the only communication being via webcam.
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Sounds jolly good fun and all, but I’m really quite attached to my legs.
People had similar reactions in the build up to WW2. Men didn’t want to fight. However when your country is under threat of invasion then it really kicks off. You can frame it as “fighting for your country” but really, you’re fighting for your own life, your wife, your kids, all your loved ones. At that point there only one option and that’s to go to war. These polls are pretty much useless because people will answer in a way that voices an opinion on the current state of the country. The reality would be considerably different.
The feeling that you’re putting your life on the line and risking permanent damage in order to further the aims of people who have hidden agendas and/ or intend making billions from your efforts without taking any risk themselves. And being party to war crimes.
The experience of british people over centuries…
Edit: Would answer the call provided the rich people and politicians and their offspring do likewise.
Had all my reasons mentioned. I’d never accept going to war, I’d simply leave the country.
Because the pay is shit, you live in shit conditions. Once your time is up? You get treated like shit by DWP. Oh and people generally, as a rule, don’t like being shot at.
Being forced to sign up is never going to happen so its all mute. But how are you going to trains thousands of new recruits, and kit them out in military gear? The army barely have enough for their own
Id rather go to prison than fight for this crooked government.
Firstly – why would we need to?
Having a nuclear deterrent should mean that conscription is never necessary again. Invading the UK is a suicide mission.
Secondly – why do we even give a fuck about ground forces?
One of the benefits of being on an island surely means we don’t need to send millions of footsloggers to their death to defend the country. We can support our allies better by having a larger and more advanced navy and air force.
​
The armed forces has been making an effort to make it clear they don’t want any more white men. I would hate to ruin their diversity statistics.
I would never fight for a Tory government, let them send their sons and daughters first
Why would I fight a war for our government that couldn’t give less of a shit about ordinary people if they tried? Get fucked, Rishi.
Because our government might want us to serve them but they won’t serve us
Bit difficult to sign up when you’re the bad guy. If we were under threat I’d sign up. I’m of no use, being disabled and all, but I can work in other fields. I’ll look after the ponies
We’re older, fatter, and less nationalistic. Which means less people in the age range for recruitment, less people in the age range fit for recruitment, and less people who are fit are willing to join.
None of these things are new, I was reading BBC articles a decade ago about how the militaries primary recruiting demographics were in long term decline.
Realistically there’s nothing that is going reverse any of these trends, so the militaries recruiting pool is just going to continue shrinking.
The government has the right to remove citizenship from my family without warning or opportunity to appeal including when they’re on holiday abroad.
My loyalty to this country is set to a reciprocal level.
Can’t we ask the WW2 fetishists first? You know the type, mark francois, de piffle, farage, Littlejohn? Not.my circus, not my monkeys, and I’ll make damn sure my kids won’t either.
Not that much to fight for, those who survive will do gig jobs and rent a room in a sharehouse for the rest of their lives.
Going half way around the world to kill an Iraqi for Halliburton? Fuck that.
Standing shoulder to shoulder with my European brothers and sisters against an existential threat to keep what’s ours. Yes.
I’m 37, have really poor eyesight and I have M.E. I’d be useless.
Why fight for a country, that only needs me when they’re scared, but will vilify me when they’re safe.
>Why won’t Britons serve in the armed forces if called?
Because the country is shite and full of cunts
What am I fighting for exactly?
People who drive BMWs and behave like dickheads on the road because they think they’re cool?
Floppy haired zoomers hanging out in the park pretending they’re in a gang listening to grime and eyeballing everybody that walks past?
People who go out and splash all their cash on material shit just to flex while I struggle to pay my bills?
All those people having babies to live on benefits while I work full time and struggle financially?
What about all those people with opposing political views that try to cancel each other and witch hunt rather than trying to understand opposing views?
No thanks. I don’t want to die for the rich.
If the fighting comes to England then I’ll fight for my loved ones; but am I fuck fighting for this country.
You’ve spent decades beating the national pride out of Brits and humiliating them by decimating their communities and kneecapping their quality of life. Telling everyone but them to be proud of their heritage and history, while telling Brits they need to be uniquely ashamed and repentant for things that happened before they were born.
You cannot slam the Betray button at every opportunity and expect people to respond with loyalty.
Fourteen years of austerity, recession, poverty and division. I’ve spent a decade seeing my friends and family being told they’re not fit to exist in this country.
And they wanna give me a gun?
Bit brave tbh
It highlights the detachment in people, especially fighting age men from their country.
Leading up to WW2, they had a view and idea of what the UK was. There existed an idea of British culture and a way of life. They worked for a British company, making a British product. Now we work for a Chinese CEO for an American company, selling an intangible product. They cannot afford a home to protect.
I can’t afford a house and the government are a bunch of landlords who are happy to continue screwing me and anyone else who isn’t a fellow billionaire property developer. I will likely not receive a pension and if I do, it’ll be at the age of 75 after being told I’m not too frail for call centre or supermarket work. I’m threatened with arrest and a criminal record if I want to peacefully protest any of this.
Why *should* I or anyone else under the age of 60 risk their life for this country when it so clearly hates them?
I mean, I’m a 35 year old woman so it’s highly unlikely I’d ever be drafted anyway but every 18 year old lad in the country has my support to tell the government to go fuck itself.
Why should I fight in a war caused by corrupt, incompetent self serving governments? They don’t represent me and I certainly won’t represent them in anyway whatsoever.
Like every war in the past if you are the cannon fodder then you are expendable as an individual, but hopefully enough of the mass survive to maintain the lifestyle of the rich who caused or profited from the war. Modern technology be it social media, mass communication systems or even contempory films and reporting show that more loose than gain in the end. The genie is out of the bottle and the modern population know a lot more than past generations were aware of.
We should all band together and go to war, against the elite who’ve fucked the country for decades.. we can take back all the land from the aristocrats while we’re at it.
There is no reason to fight and risk my life for an ungrateful political system intent on filling it’s own pockets.
So quite frankly get knotted
I’d fight for my friends and family. Fuck rich men and their disagreements.
Who wants to go fight wars for the rich? I’d rather live thanks.
because they rejected me as my left ear could not hear the high frequency properly. Their top nurse said I aint fit enough. So yeah that hurt a bit so dont think they will ever let me in. Sad part was, I trained, lost weight, improved running and strength so i can get told my hearing is a issue. I do understand why they did this, they just dont want people to sue them for damage in health and safety etc.
Send the ruling class and the rich first.
If they’re unable to do the job and up dead and broken, I might think about having a go.
This country hasn’t done an awful lot for me, why does it expect me to put my life on the line for it?
This is why we had the post-war consensus. Several generations fought in the wars, and we developed an understanding that when the people serve their country, their country ought to look after them in return. Then Thatcher tore all that down and now we just have an every man for himself society. So what do they expect. It’s not exactly rocket science.
People don’t join the army to fight for the interests of American foreign policy, City of London family companies, and foreign investment property speculators.
Why should I?
– I can’t afford to buy a house.
– My retirement age increases.
Let the boomers go and fight, the ones who moaned about my generation (millennial) for the last 20+ years, being the worst generation etc, whilst our living standards get progressively worse.
I’m not fighting for a country that wants to milk me of every penny in taxes, council tax, high fuel costs etc. what do I get in return?
What would the Brits be fighting for exactly?
Continuous handouts to people who have not paid a penny into the system? Also allowing people into the country who actively express a hatred for the British public and our culture/institutions. (Many are not from war torn countries and therefore not refugees)
A health system where the budget keeps growing but so do the wait times?
To continue to not be able to buy our own homes?
To be told that if you’re native and your white, not only that you’re a despicable human everyday but institutions and company’s will seek to hire anyone other than you to fulfil diversity quota’s.
That if you show any pride in your nation or its history, you are racist bigot and if you then try to adopt another culture, you are guilty of cultural appropriation.
That you have little to no say in your child’s education in public schools and you will be fined if you dare take them out of class on any day other than the prescribed holidays.
To be taxed 100 different ways before you can actually buy anything? Inheritance, income, VAT. selling. Etc…
Shit weather…
Lockdowns when the government feels like it as they go out and party. Whilst family members died alone with the only communication being via webcam.
Just to list a few reasons…