What do you think about single Men in Switzerland? – NZZ Article

11 comments

1. U mad bro ?

2. Written by 2 women. Unironically, both look like Karens.

   Hmmm… Must be just a coincidence

3. *Instalocks Yasou midlane*

4. I think it s quite apparent – women can be more selective towards men and enjoy being single more than men (one of those reasons being – it s easier for average looking women to get sex than for average looking men).

   and the other argument being – women are getting more educated but want a man who is at least as educated as themselves.

   Edit: didnt read your answers – the whining does not help. Thats how it is. I am experiencing that as well as someone who is genetically at a disadvantage in the looks department.

5. Boring

6. At least there’s no paywall. but still tl;dr

   The authors are women and the first two cited experts are women. I also felt like the put all the blame on men while reading. It’s the right leaning NZZ giving feminists a plattform, just to alienate men from modern media and feminist ideas like equal wages and wage transparency.

7. Online dating is like window shopping: most people will get “dislikes” unless they upload photoshopped pics to their profiles.

   From personal experience: communication skills & fulfilling life/lifestyle will lead you (an individual, man or woman) towards more connections => more acquaintances=> larger (potential) dating pool

   And of course we shouldn’t generalize, every single individual has their own story… No reason to take such articles seriously

8. >Today there are too few educated men for all the educated women?
   >apparently dating is more like Linkedin Profiles comparison

   to be fair, women on average date upwards, while men care less about this and go more for beauty.

   so if you have more highly educated women, you also need men that are even more educated or at least social economically higher.

   i think soely based on your summary this one makes sense.

   this one is a bit intresting:

   >Women have the choice, men are left with the torment of trying to find a woman
   >where do they find the extra men to choose from, aren’t they in the same fishbowl?

   in parts, this is contradictory to the point above.

   what is true about that point however, is that women do have the choice, even in the animal world this is the case for many animals. the thing is the choice is for whom to have sex with and not necessarily whom to have a relationship with. which is also why online dating sucks so much for men.

   that being said, based on all the men i know in switzerland (so anectotal), dating market is quite shit at least for my age group. Other country it seems easier to get to know women. (not sure how the dating market for women is in switzerland)

9. * **Men are insecure about their contribution to a relationship, because women now have money** *because they have nothing else to offer or because this is the only thing they are being asked?*

   The men in previous generations were looked at to provide for their family, whilst the women remained home and cared for the household. As both parties are now working, a woman doesn’t specifically *need/want* her husband to provide for her, she can provide for them too. Leading to the question “in this new society, if I am not responsible for being the breadwinner, what am I responsible for?”

   * **Women have the choice, men are left with the torment of trying to find a woman** *where do they find the extra men to choose from, aren’t they in the same fishbowl?*

   That’s not what this means. This is effectively saying “women can pick and choose which man they want to go home with, many men will fight for a chance for the same woman.” A tale as old as time!

   * **Men benefit much more from a relationship than women** *because men are useless little babies?*

   Not at all what’s being said. There have been many scientific studies conducted researching the benefits for a romantic relationship and how they differ between men and women ([Example paper from Southampton Uni](https://www.soton.ac.uk/~crsi/Perceived_benefits.pdf)) and it is often shown that men benefit more emotionally and socially than women.

   * **In relationships, the woman then has to play the “emotional midwife”** *because no woman has ever shared/offloaded her emotions with their man?*

   That’s not what that’s saying. It’s normal, and sought after, to find someone who we can share our emotions with. We, as men, tend to be more emotionally stunted compared to women and they are left to feel like they’re looking after an emotional baby trapped in an adults body. It’s not wrong for women to want to form relationships with emotionally mature men.

   * **Divorces are mostly caused by women because men are unable to deal with emotional problems.** *apparently this has nothing to do with the unfair dating market or unfair family court decisions or loyalty from men to their partners etc*

   There is no “unfair dating market”, it’s not a market at all.

   We, Men, are stereotypically more likely to not open up to our loved ones, causing ever growing rifts and resentment in our relationships which leads to pushing away our loved ones which can lead to divorce.

10. Unfortunately, despite the length of the article, it didn’t consider the subject in a sufficient depth. It’s a story, and it seems that in a large part also a projection of experiences the authors have had with men onto the general population. It’s neither an accurate diagnosis, nor a reasonable call for action. It’s nothing useful.

11. Men are having it harder and harder these days, no thanks for their sacrifice to their families, women seem to be favored by society these days, it’s not a pleasant and fun climate to be in. I have to add too, that dating nowadays has become a nightmare due to constant comparison on social media and dating apps that only favor handsome individuals.

    I have to say though, that your little comments below the bullet points are very misleading and I cannot fully know if you agree with these points or if you refute them, or you are just being sarcastic… I guess you disagree though but it’s not clear at first.