Essentially a group of design agencies, consultants and software developers. The only one that I can see that deals with physical product is these guys https://cmgtechnologies.co.uk/
But you’ve got to start somewhere right? Just seems like a bunch of really soft targets so I don’t know what this pilot is actually going to prove.
im still furious that this isn’t just how it is everywhere. why we need to trial it for 6 months in 30 companies when it’s been proven in other countries that productivity goes up and stress goes down is beyond me.
Where I work we have a 4 day working weeks during the summer. It’s honestly amazing, everyone is happier, people are more focused and productive when they’re at work, and you obviously have an extra day each week to enjoy doing whatever you want.
Sometimes I do think I’d prefer having the 4 day weeks during the winter though, so that there’s an extra day to spend getting out in the daylight.
4 day working weeks only work for some places not all. Where I work it isn’t possible to do 4 day working to cover the same amount of hours let alone actually get the work done.
Some places yes it will work and some places already have it set up such as warehouse work or security guards. They just do a longer shift to make up the time.
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Do pilots normally work 5 day weeks? I didn’t realise we were short.
I’ve been doing the 4 day week for years.
It is, no doubt, the best thing ever. My productivity is better and need for sick days or holidays much lower. I’m healthier and the business is growing too.
The trade off is you’re busier during the 4 days, but tbh I just cut out the time wasting stuff and it isn’t an issue.
This should be the norm and by 2050 we should have 3 day workdays 😊
I wonder how this would work for me as a freelancer who works on a day rate. If I joined a company who did a four-day week then I’d theoretically lose out on a day’s pay.
This is pretty much the rail industry for years.
I have a 4 day working week, the downside is it’s shift work 24/7, so lates, earlies, nights across a 30 week roster where you work every shift. The upside is it equates to 4 days a week, lots of days off midweek when most others are working (great for getting things done) and some weeks you might work one day, others could be seven. Plus when you factor in holiday leave you’re only working 7 months a year.
It’s not for everyone though, I spend a lot of time in my own company (which I personally like, it balances my home life) and at 0200, stood outside a depot in winter, looking for your taxi that has been and fucked off because you’re 10 minutes late, you can start to question your life choices.
It’s very difficult to have a proper discussion about this – the majority of people that support it only do so because they’re desperate to work less. Anything remotely negative gets downvoted to hell.
My company (Spanish company) gives us half day Fridays. I would say it definitely makes people more productive during working hours.
Only 4 days? Get on my level, 0 day working week for me but one downside is no income.
> Some 30 British companies are expected to take part in the pilot, which will see no loss in pay for employees working one fewer day a week.
> Instead they will be asked to maintain 100% productivity for 80% of their time.
I can tell you exactly how this will play out:
* Productivity will increase on those four days due to the employees getting more rest.
* The workplace will return to five day working weeks.
* Senior management will say, “Now we know you *can* be that productive, we’ll expect you to hit those KPIs five days a week.”
There’s no way the boomers will allow this. They had to do 5 days and they’ll be damned if they’ll let us go down to 4. Even if it makes complete rational sense.
It’s not a real trial until you roll it out to doctors, teachers, stock traders and police etc. A small number of companies going to 4 days a week is just a bunch of people working part time
Here’s an interesting back of the envelope calculation, putting everything else aside.
Once you factor in statutory holiday, on a five day work week, you spend nearly 2 thirds of the years days working (63.5%)
On a four day work week, that drops to nearly half (49.3%!).
Work life balance is the latest buzz phrase, could you get a more perfect example of balance than 50-50?
Shower thoughts, of course, but I do feel that’d be a much healthier relationship to Labour. Its remarkable how big a difference that one day a week makes.
I’ll skip all the reading material and straight up assume this starts in the house of Lords? Then if they like it, everyone else can continue as they have done for years?
I wonder how the transition to a 4 day will work with essential services?
No doubt that a 4 day week should be the norm, but people don’t just stop being ill one day a week, so how will the government find the additional resources to supply these services? We’ve already got a shortage of nurses, teachers, doctors, etc.
Will this just add to the list of already compelling reasons to leave the public sector?
“The fifth working day, known as ‘wine time Fridays’ in some corners of the country…”
“But, does it affect my annual leave entitlement?”
– Every email to HR.
My employer has been doing four day weeks for 3 months now. Fridays off
It’s been rolled out based on the fact the average worker does about 9 hours work a day anyway, especially as commuting been cut out for two years now, so the average worker delivers on their commitments in 4 days (over 35 hours a week).
Obviously the company can’t totally shut down. We do have some essential staff who take off a different day to Friday. Customer support, some operations etc.
It’s been really positive. It makes you feel like you’re happy to push yourself really hard on those four days and you become way more efficient and effective. Then on Monday you’re actually ready to go.
And what’s the opportunity cost? Everyone dosses off Fridays anyway lol. The company’s better off now
Conscious though this works only really cos of WFH. I couldn’t see the average worker at my place clocking 9 hours a day if they had to commute over an hour each way into central.
Be a shame to have to trade this efficient new structure for 10 plus hours a week crammed onto a train just so we can AVE A CHAT INNIT ITS REALLY NARRRRCE TO ALL BE BACK TOGETHER AGAIN
We don’t even realise how big an opportunity WFH is because we want to save pret and their shit sandwiches, Nero and their shit coffee. Our economy has become a laughing stock
Remember when this was a labour party idea and the tories laughed and mocked Corbyn for his “socialist” policies…
Biggest flaw is most people need overtime to meet their outgoing this model is based on people who have outgoings based on their basic wages.
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Let me guess, productivity will go through the roof and the Tories will introduce a six day working week
“Some 30 British companies are expected to take part in the pilot, which will see no loss in pay for employees working one fewer day a week.”
I think it’s fairly safe to assume that those companies are the 30 companies listed here https://www.4dayweek.co.uk/employers
Essentially a group of design agencies, consultants and software developers. The only one that I can see that deals with physical product is these guys https://cmgtechnologies.co.uk/
But you’ve got to start somewhere right? Just seems like a bunch of really soft targets so I don’t know what this pilot is actually going to prove.
im still furious that this isn’t just how it is everywhere. why we need to trial it for 6 months in 30 companies when it’s been proven in other countries that productivity goes up and stress goes down is beyond me.
Where I work we have a 4 day working weeks during the summer. It’s honestly amazing, everyone is happier, people are more focused and productive when they’re at work, and you obviously have an extra day each week to enjoy doing whatever you want.
Sometimes I do think I’d prefer having the 4 day weeks during the winter though, so that there’s an extra day to spend getting out in the daylight.
4 day working weeks only work for some places not all. Where I work it isn’t possible to do 4 day working to cover the same amount of hours let alone actually get the work done.
Some places yes it will work and some places already have it set up such as warehouse work or security guards. They just do a longer shift to make up the time.
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Do pilots normally work 5 day weeks? I didn’t realise we were short.
I’ve been doing the 4 day week for years.
It is, no doubt, the best thing ever. My productivity is better and need for sick days or holidays much lower. I’m healthier and the business is growing too.
The trade off is you’re busier during the 4 days, but tbh I just cut out the time wasting stuff and it isn’t an issue.
This should be the norm and by 2050 we should have 3 day workdays 😊
I wonder how this would work for me as a freelancer who works on a day rate. If I joined a company who did a four-day week then I’d theoretically lose out on a day’s pay.
This is pretty much the rail industry for years.
I have a 4 day working week, the downside is it’s shift work 24/7, so lates, earlies, nights across a 30 week roster where you work every shift. The upside is it equates to 4 days a week, lots of days off midweek when most others are working (great for getting things done) and some weeks you might work one day, others could be seven. Plus when you factor in holiday leave you’re only working 7 months a year.
It’s not for everyone though, I spend a lot of time in my own company (which I personally like, it balances my home life) and at 0200, stood outside a depot in winter, looking for your taxi that has been and fucked off because you’re 10 minutes late, you can start to question your life choices.
It’s very difficult to have a proper discussion about this – the majority of people that support it only do so because they’re desperate to work less. Anything remotely negative gets downvoted to hell.
My company (Spanish company) gives us half day Fridays. I would say it definitely makes people more productive during working hours.
Only 4 days? Get on my level, 0 day working week for me but one downside is no income.
> Some 30 British companies are expected to take part in the pilot, which will see no loss in pay for employees working one fewer day a week.
> Instead they will be asked to maintain 100% productivity for 80% of their time.
I can tell you exactly how this will play out:
* Productivity will increase on those four days due to the employees getting more rest.
* The workplace will return to five day working weeks.
* Senior management will say, “Now we know you *can* be that productive, we’ll expect you to hit those KPIs five days a week.”
There’s no way the boomers will allow this. They had to do 5 days and they’ll be damned if they’ll let us go down to 4. Even if it makes complete rational sense.
It’s not a real trial until you roll it out to doctors, teachers, stock traders and police etc. A small number of companies going to 4 days a week is just a bunch of people working part time
Here’s an interesting back of the envelope calculation, putting everything else aside.
Once you factor in statutory holiday, on a five day work week, you spend nearly 2 thirds of the years days working (63.5%)
On a four day work week, that drops to nearly half (49.3%!).
Work life balance is the latest buzz phrase, could you get a more perfect example of balance than 50-50?
Shower thoughts, of course, but I do feel that’d be a much healthier relationship to Labour. Its remarkable how big a difference that one day a week makes.
I’ll skip all the reading material and straight up assume this starts in the house of Lords? Then if they like it, everyone else can continue as they have done for years?
I wonder how the transition to a 4 day will work with essential services?
No doubt that a 4 day week should be the norm, but people don’t just stop being ill one day a week, so how will the government find the additional resources to supply these services? We’ve already got a shortage of nurses, teachers, doctors, etc.
Will this just add to the list of already compelling reasons to leave the public sector?
“The fifth working day, known as ‘wine time Fridays’ in some corners of the country…”
“But, does it affect my annual leave entitlement?”
– Every email to HR.
My employer has been doing four day weeks for 3 months now. Fridays off
It’s been rolled out based on the fact the average worker does about 9 hours work a day anyway, especially as commuting been cut out for two years now, so the average worker delivers on their commitments in 4 days (over 35 hours a week).
Obviously the company can’t totally shut down. We do have some essential staff who take off a different day to Friday. Customer support, some operations etc.
It’s been really positive. It makes you feel like you’re happy to push yourself really hard on those four days and you become way more efficient and effective. Then on Monday you’re actually ready to go.
And what’s the opportunity cost? Everyone dosses off Fridays anyway lol. The company’s better off now
Conscious though this works only really cos of WFH. I couldn’t see the average worker at my place clocking 9 hours a day if they had to commute over an hour each way into central.
Be a shame to have to trade this efficient new structure for 10 plus hours a week crammed onto a train just so we can AVE A CHAT INNIT ITS REALLY NARRRRCE TO ALL BE BACK TOGETHER AGAIN
We don’t even realise how big an opportunity WFH is because we want to save pret and their shit sandwiches, Nero and their shit coffee. Our economy has become a laughing stock
Remember when this was a labour party idea and the tories laughed and mocked Corbyn for his “socialist” policies…
Biggest flaw is most people need overtime to meet their outgoing this model is based on people who have outgoings based on their basic wages.