Her father died from cancer before her killer was caught. Heartbreaking. Imagine losing your child in such a horrific way and then not living to see justice for it. And for her mother too, how awful to lose your child like that and then to lose your husband to cancer too. That poor family.
Government should consider legalising prostitution, as the current model makes it very dangerous for sex workers.
Licensed and regulated brothels would be able to report violent customers to the police and presumably have bouncers around too.
>It’s emerged that other sex workers at the time had raised concerns that he was violent years before Emma was killed.
And yet another sad case of the police brushing off concerns about violent, predatory men. Changing attitudes around predatory crimes is needed to reduce these horrific crimes. Very sad case.
36 years before he can apply for parole. He’s never getting out.
More awfulness on top of this – this slightly reminds me of the way American cops are somtimes dodgy and corrupt in a really brazen way (nothing against Americans)
I know every little about this case, but merely reading the BBC article
[here](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68285168)
led me to conclude that something is *off* about it – like perhaps some senior office knew this Packer bloke, and was covering for him:
*Retired detective Stuart Hall said he was told he could not detain Packer in the early stages of the inquiry.
When Det Con David Barr, taking the statement, asked senior officers if he could detain Packer, he was also told no.
“I’m told… when you get Iain Packer and bring him in, it doesn’t matter what he tells you – he won’t ever be an accused in this case,” he recalled.”*
Later they unsuccessfully tried to pin it on some Turkish blokes:
*Retired Det Sgt Willie Mason claims senior officers did not want to lose face.
“If they were to turn round and say ‘we have made a mistake here, we’ve spent all this public money,’ their careers would’ve been finished – and they knew that. So they bluffed it out,” he said.*
Anyway, (aside from the terrible tragedy of it all) an awful thing is this:
Both Stuart Hall and retired Det Con David Barr have told the BBC that the order not to detain Packer came from the inquiry’s senior investigating officer, **Willie Johnston**.
And then,
*Mr Johnston left the force in 2006. He declined to provide a comment to the BBC, beyond his hopes “that the forthcoming trial finally provides the answers the deceased’s family have deserved for so long”*.
*What*? Shouldn’t this Johnston be tried for something? This Packer bloke went on to commit other crimes. Maybe you’d think, “Yeah, but this Willie Johnston is probably old and retired, pottering about in his garden”.
Nope.
Cunt’s out there on Linkedin, also looks like he’s moonlighting for a private investigation firm. This bloke is just walking around, free, like one of those dodgy American cops, **without a fucking care.**
Why is all the reporting around this so keen to mention that she was a sex worker?
Honestly it seems a lot like the police were protecting this man. There’s a lot of police investigations that seem dodgy lately. Almost seems as if these people are working with the authorities whilst committing these crimes
I really wish the headline was just her name –
Iain Packer found guilty of strangling Emma Caldwell before dumping her naked body in a ditch
Why do they always have to add “sex worker”. I suppose it’s slightly better than those poor ladies in Ipswich in 2005, seem to remember it was “hookers” or “prostitutes” then. So dehumanising.
Poor Emma, rest in peace love, and fuck Iain Packer
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Her father died from cancer before her killer was caught. Heartbreaking. Imagine losing your child in such a horrific way and then not living to see justice for it. And for her mother too, how awful to lose your child like that and then to lose your husband to cancer too. That poor family.
Government should consider legalising prostitution, as the current model makes it very dangerous for sex workers.
Licensed and regulated brothels would be able to report violent customers to the police and presumably have bouncers around too.
>It’s emerged that other sex workers at the time had raised concerns that he was violent years before Emma was killed.
And yet another sad case of the police brushing off concerns about violent, predatory men. Changing attitudes around predatory crimes is needed to reduce these horrific crimes. Very sad case.
36 years before he can apply for parole. He’s never getting out.
More awfulness on top of this – this slightly reminds me of the way American cops are somtimes dodgy and corrupt in a really brazen way (nothing against Americans)
I know every little about this case, but merely reading the BBC article
[here](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68285168)
led me to conclude that something is *off* about it – like perhaps some senior office knew this Packer bloke, and was covering for him:
*Retired detective Stuart Hall said he was told he could not detain Packer in the early stages of the inquiry.
When Det Con David Barr, taking the statement, asked senior officers if he could detain Packer, he was also told no.
“I’m told… when you get Iain Packer and bring him in, it doesn’t matter what he tells you – he won’t ever be an accused in this case,” he recalled.”*
Later they unsuccessfully tried to pin it on some Turkish blokes:
*Retired Det Sgt Willie Mason claims senior officers did not want to lose face.
“If they were to turn round and say ‘we have made a mistake here, we’ve spent all this public money,’ their careers would’ve been finished – and they knew that. So they bluffed it out,” he said.*
Anyway, (aside from the terrible tragedy of it all) an awful thing is this:
Both Stuart Hall and retired Det Con David Barr have told the BBC that the order not to detain Packer came from the inquiry’s senior investigating officer, **Willie Johnston**.
And then,
*Mr Johnston left the force in 2006. He declined to provide a comment to the BBC, beyond his hopes “that the forthcoming trial finally provides the answers the deceased’s family have deserved for so long”*.
*What*? Shouldn’t this Johnston be tried for something? This Packer bloke went on to commit other crimes. Maybe you’d think, “Yeah, but this Willie Johnston is probably old and retired, pottering about in his garden”.
Nope.
Cunt’s out there on Linkedin, also looks like he’s moonlighting for a private investigation firm. This bloke is just walking around, free, like one of those dodgy American cops, **without a fucking care.**
Why is all the reporting around this so keen to mention that she was a sex worker?
Honestly it seems a lot like the police were protecting this man. There’s a lot of police investigations that seem dodgy lately. Almost seems as if these people are working with the authorities whilst committing these crimes
I really wish the headline was just her name –
Iain Packer found guilty of strangling Emma Caldwell before dumping her naked body in a ditch
Why do they always have to add “sex worker”. I suppose it’s slightly better than those poor ladies in Ipswich in 2005, seem to remember it was “hookers” or “prostitutes” then. So dehumanising.
Poor Emma, rest in peace love, and fuck Iain Packer