French President Emmanuel Macron said at a summit with European countries on Monday that he believes sending troops to Ukraine is not out of the question. “We will do whatever it takes to prevent Russia from winning,” Macron said. French Foreign Minister Stéphane Séjourné says that this does not involve troops going to fight, but, for example, to help clear mines and the production of weapons in the country. Division What does the Netherlands think about this?
We asked 2,063 participants of the Heart of the Netherlands Panel, representative of the Dutch population. This shows that almost half of the participants (44 percent) would approve of Dutch ground troops being sent to Ukraine. However, that group is divided over what the duties of the soldiers there should be. 15 percent would support it if they also participated in combat missions there. The other group (29 percent) thinks that they should only perform supporting functions there, such as clearing mines or evacuating the population if fighting breaks out.
Well.. it’s different to say willing to send than willing to go.
It’s only a matter of time imo. Ukraine simply does not have enough manpower. If we really want a free Ukraine restored to pre 2014 borders, foreign troops will be needed. Easy for me to say as someone who has never served, but I would support this. To those who have served and seen combat, how do you feel about this?
It’s Coming ! Putin will not stop & many Countries in Europe are aware. I live in the UK and everyday there are advertisements to sign up to the British army.
Would you rather fight Russia in Ukraine or in Finland or Poland or even in Germany or France ?
It’s always better to have your war in someone else’s country.
European forces volunteer for a paid military sabbatical. Become dual Ukrainian citizens and fight against evil.
Special Peacekeeping operation
I’m not surprised. They’d do anything to reduce the overcrowding in their own country.
This talk about troops is really dumb. If NATO were to get engaged it would make way more sense to create a no-fly zone in Ukraine with F35s and F22s rather than have boots on the ground.
I would go 🙂
Good on them
they cant even send weapons
So let them vote, everyone who voted for it will go first. Good deal 🤝
The Half wanting to send troops: not in the active military duty.
The half not wanting to send troops: soldiers, family of soldiers
Based on the title of this post, that means the majority of Dutch people do not want to send ground troops to Ukraine.
Unless it’s themselves or their close family….
Wow! Dutch people are true humanitarians!❤️🤗
The Dutch have been waiting for a reason since Russia shot down a passenger plane carrying a bunch of Dutch citizens, which, you know maybe we should have taken a bit more seriously at the time.
A few of my thoughts on this:
1. A lot of focus is being spent on troop deployments, but one thing that isn’t talked about is that even NATO’s long range capabilities should be enough to completely destroy the Russian offensive. Not that I think sending troops would be a bad idea (I myself would volunteer for this).
2. On a similar note, I think it would be technically possible to send long range missiles to the Russian Duma and just blow that up, or launch a similar “decapitation strike”, and it might be more productive to do so than fighting the Russian offensive. (This isn’t a feature of warfare that has been around for most of human history).
3. Russia is comparatively poor to the rest of Europe/the US and so the idea of the “Russian world” that the Russian government is trying to establish isn’t something that’s rooted in reality, and this information is available to them. So putting myself in the shoes of even a cynical, calculating Russian, their situation is mostly characterized by lack of options. So, potentially the most important aspect, of establishing a different administration in Russia, is providing those options.
4. This is a pretty unique time period in human history where everyone basically has a phone and may have differing opinions on their own government. Coming from a military family, “war” itself has connotations that I have a hard time applying to this level of available communication. Simply establishing an option for Russians that want to be part of the global community might be enough to “win” the war.
Thank you for your time, I’ll take a medium chicken burrito and a Jarritos.
Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side!
I kid, those dudes are bad ass and could be a force multiplier if deployed correctly. Also it would give the artillery comm operator an excuse to order a “Dutch Master”. We roll weed with them in Texas.
I don’t have much to add but I find it interesting Macron mentioned troops on the ground and around the same time Fico said the same. I know Fico is pro-Russian, but given the proximity of the statements time wise, its definitely worth noting.
They’re rightfully pissed after their people were killed in the horrifying MH17 shoot down by the scumbag Russians
They should have asked them if they would be OK if their sons and daughters were sent to Ukraine. Sending other unrelated people is kind of abstract. I guarantee the politicians that would decide on this sort of policy will not be sending their kids off to war.
I’m dutch and nobody here is talking about that. There’s definitely no support for that.
They can go first!
The only thing stopping me from supporting the idea of NATO troops being in Ukraine is Russia’s nukes.
Better idea is to give more supplies and lethal aid to Ukraine.
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French President Emmanuel Macron said at a summit with European countries on Monday that he believes sending troops to Ukraine is not out of the question. “We will do whatever it takes to prevent Russia from winning,” Macron said. French Foreign Minister Stéphane Séjourné says that this does not involve troops going to fight, but, for example, to help clear mines and the production of weapons in the country. Division What does the Netherlands think about this?
We asked 2,063 participants of the Heart of the Netherlands Panel, representative of the Dutch population. This shows that almost half of the participants (44 percent) would approve of Dutch ground troops being sent to Ukraine. However, that group is divided over what the duties of the soldiers there should be. 15 percent would support it if they also participated in combat missions there. The other group (29 percent) thinks that they should only perform supporting functions there, such as clearing mines or evacuating the population if fighting breaks out.
Link: [https://www.hartvannederland.nl/panel/bijna-helft-nederlanders-voor-grondtroepen-oekraine](https://www.hartvannederland.nl/panel/bijna-helft-nederlanders-voor-grondtroepen-oekraine)
Well.. it’s different to say willing to send than willing to go.
It’s only a matter of time imo. Ukraine simply does not have enough manpower. If we really want a free Ukraine restored to pre 2014 borders, foreign troops will be needed. Easy for me to say as someone who has never served, but I would support this. To those who have served and seen combat, how do you feel about this?
It’s Coming ! Putin will not stop & many Countries in Europe are aware. I live in the UK and everyday there are advertisements to sign up to the British army.
Would you rather fight Russia in Ukraine or in Finland or Poland or even in Germany or France ?
It’s always better to have your war in someone else’s country.
European forces volunteer for a paid military sabbatical. Become dual Ukrainian citizens and fight against evil.
Special Peacekeeping operation
I’m not surprised. They’d do anything to reduce the overcrowding in their own country.
This talk about troops is really dumb. If NATO were to get engaged it would make way more sense to create a no-fly zone in Ukraine with F35s and F22s rather than have boots on the ground.
I would go 🙂
Good on them
they cant even send weapons
So let them vote, everyone who voted for it will go first. Good deal 🤝
The Half wanting to send troops: not in the active military duty.
The half not wanting to send troops: soldiers, family of soldiers
Based on the title of this post, that means the majority of Dutch people do not want to send ground troops to Ukraine.
Unless it’s themselves or their close family….
Wow! Dutch people are true humanitarians!❤️🤗
The Dutch have been waiting for a reason since Russia shot down a passenger plane carrying a bunch of Dutch citizens, which, you know maybe we should have taken a bit more seriously at the time.
A few of my thoughts on this:
1. A lot of focus is being spent on troop deployments, but one thing that isn’t talked about is that even NATO’s long range capabilities should be enough to completely destroy the Russian offensive. Not that I think sending troops would be a bad idea (I myself would volunteer for this).
2. On a similar note, I think it would be technically possible to send long range missiles to the Russian Duma and just blow that up, or launch a similar “decapitation strike”, and it might be more productive to do so than fighting the Russian offensive. (This isn’t a feature of warfare that has been around for most of human history).
3. Russia is comparatively poor to the rest of Europe/the US and so the idea of the “Russian world” that the Russian government is trying to establish isn’t something that’s rooted in reality, and this information is available to them. So putting myself in the shoes of even a cynical, calculating Russian, their situation is mostly characterized by lack of options. So, potentially the most important aspect, of establishing a different administration in Russia, is providing those options.
4. This is a pretty unique time period in human history where everyone basically has a phone and may have differing opinions on their own government. Coming from a military family, “war” itself has connotations that I have a hard time applying to this level of available communication. Simply establishing an option for Russians that want to be part of the global community might be enough to “win” the war.
Thank you for your time, I’ll take a medium chicken burrito and a Jarritos.
Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side!
I kid, those dudes are bad ass and could be a force multiplier if deployed correctly. Also it would give the artillery comm operator an excuse to order a “Dutch Master”. We roll weed with them in Texas.
I don’t have much to add but I find it interesting Macron mentioned troops on the ground and around the same time Fico said the same. I know Fico is pro-Russian, but given the proximity of the statements time wise, its definitely worth noting.
They’re rightfully pissed after their people were killed in the horrifying MH17 shoot down by the scumbag Russians
They should have asked them if they would be OK if their sons and daughters were sent to Ukraine. Sending other unrelated people is kind of abstract. I guarantee the politicians that would decide on this sort of policy will not be sending their kids off to war.
I’m dutch and nobody here is talking about that. There’s definitely no support for that.
They can go first!
The only thing stopping me from supporting the idea of NATO troops being in Ukraine is Russia’s nukes.
Better idea is to give more supplies and lethal aid to Ukraine.