Germany was accused of a “flagrant abuse of intelligence” after revealing that British soldiers are supporting Ukrainian forces launching long-range Storm Shadow missiles.
Olaf Scholz on Monday said he would not deliver the Taurus, Berlin’s equivalent of the Storm Shadow, as it would require soldiers assisting on the ground, citing the [UK and French approach with their own systems](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/27/macron-scholz-refusal-taurus-missiles-ukraine-war/). Mr Scholz argued that following the UK would make Germany a “participant in the war”.
The comments were seen as endangering British military and diplomatic personnel on the ground.
Tobias Ellwood, the former chairman of the Commons’ defence committee, said: “This is a flagrant abuse of intelligence deliberately designed to distract from Germany’s reluctance to arm Ukraine with its own long-range missile system. This will no doubt be used by Russia to racket up the escalator ladder.”
Mr Scholz was also criticised by German opposition MPs.
“The chancellor’s statement regarding France and Britain’s alleged involvement in operating long-range cruise missiles used in Ukraine is completely irresponsible,” Norbert Rottgen, a senior MP from Angela Merkel’s former ruling party, the CDU.
The German chancellor is under mounting pressure to deliver the long-range missile to disrupt Russia’s supply lines and prevent Moscow taking further territory.
“German soldiers can at no point and in no place be linked with the targets that this system [the Taurus] reaches. Not even in Germany,” Mr Scholz said.
Britain is known to provide intelligence on Russian targets but it is unclear what level of support is given to Ukrainian troops firing its missiles on the ground.
On Tuesday, the UK Government announced it had a “small number” of soldiers deployed inside Ukraine, specifying only that some were involved in medical training.
Mr Scholz’s speculation on the role played by British troops in Ukraine has heightened concern for the safety of diplomats and other personnel stationed in the country, defence sources told The Telegraph.
It has also increased the threat of potential Russian overseas intelligence operations on British soil, the sources added.
Seems like, Schulz is a russian asset he is blackmailed because he couldnt stop touching russian fsb hookers.
DILIGAF SCHOLTZ
Germany sucks ass. Fucking grow a backbone
Fucking unbelievable. what the hell did he opn his big fat mouth for? the one thing (we know about) that he shouldn’t have said.
But the Telegraph article goes on to say: ‘Mr Scholz’s speculation on the role played by British troops in Ukraine’ so it may have been speculation on his part; either way really bad form on his part, the fucking idiot
What a poor leader Germany has atm
Your little tattle tale brother is running an entire nation.
British troops are training the Ukrainians on how to use the tech, so yes they are helping them, this headline makes it sound like they are directly involved and that isnt the case.
IMO he is saying the quiet part loud. I would think that there are a lot of NATO advisors running around as “contract” operatives who can have plausible deniability in regards to training of weapons systems and other western warfare philosophies. Yeah, he is certainly not helping matters out.
Germany leaders are going from German shepard to a chihuaua. Grow a pair ffs
What a fucking clown
He’s a two faced coward.
Clown
Are Germany afraid of a nuclear attack from Russia? They’re part of NATO so shouldn’t be.
He is an awkward leader same as Merkel… they are dividing EU…
yes scholz thats a good thing?
oh no god forbid you participate in a war, after economically aiding the invading force for decades, even after they displayed aggression, in georgia and then crimea,
this guy and anyone who agrees with his position are absolute cowards.
Scholz is Germany’s Chamberlain. “I believe it will be a little war for our time. But no more. I don’t mind a little war, but not too much. I want Ukraine to win against Russia, but not too much. There we go, that showed Putin. And kept Germany out of a big war. Because, you know, if Germany’s good at anything it’s knowing how to contain potential world wars…”
Any other secret to tell russia?
One thing I will say – the UK has clearly been on of Ukraine’s most staunch allies through everything.
Hmmm may be a coincidence but they are slowly letting slip that we are putting boots on the ground and warming the Western European public up to the fact that we might have a conflict with Russia soon.
If it escalates then Russia loses, no? 🤷♂️
What a fucking idiot.
Not only is he a coward, but he is also simple too?
Germany is doing great things for Ukraine, and the support that Germans have shown is huge, but their leader is holding them back. Weak politicians in our capitals are the only reason Ukraine hasn’t pushed the Russians back yet.
wtf bro can you not?
Scholz excuse is as porous as Swiss cheese.
No one can tell me that Ukrainians cannot enter waypoints into a cruise missile.
Even if they are really clumsy, the path would “only” be suboptimal, namely too high above ground so that it would be easier to intercept or they might even run it into ground prematurely. Eyewateringly expensive and a waste of a good munition, really bad.
On the other hand, I do not believe that the Germans know more about Ukrainian terrain and placement of Russian AA than the Ukrainians and then providing maps is not participation. Maybe Scholz made them add a retina scan of the chancellor to authorize launch … but that would have been recent and could be removed.
The real reason is that whacking a certain bridge would symbollically sever Russia from certain territory and Russia would really not appreciate that. I also suspect that the Western diplomacy faction would really want to trade the aforementioned territory.
If a British soldier wants to go on holiday in Kiev. Who is going to stop him.
FFS. This is why you limit the dissemination of intelligence and leave out details people don’t need to know. Shit like this will endanger peoples lives, foreigners in Ukraine are already a russian priority military target for political propaganda.
I like Germany’s total contribution but this bald fraud needs to be stopped.
“German soldiers can at no point and in no place be linked with the targets that this system [the Taurus] reaches. Not even in Germany,” Mr Scholz said.
And why ist that? What’s so bad in stopping a genocide? Asking as a German. Which button do I have to push to destroy these targets?
Scholz you little scab, loose lips sink ships.
Why the fucking fuck would he divulge that?!
German here.
Just for you guys to know. I have no idea why he would say stuff like that. But trust me a lot of German People want to Support Ukraine with even more stuff. Ofc also including Taurus.
Just dont think just because Scholz said stuff like that, that the people here in my country dont care about Ukraine or anything similar.
We Support Ukraine. With or without Scholz.
Dont project this Kind of stuff to the German People.
Stay United.
Excellent. If it’s ok with Putin to have Russian foreign soldiers in Ukraine then that should apply to every other nationality, even more so, as they will have been invited, not illegally invaded.
Day1 – France: We may send NATO troops to Ukraine.
Day 2 – NATO: We are most definitely not sending our troops to Ukraine.
Day 3 – UK: Actually, our troops are already in Ukraine.
Funny.
He is simply incompetent.
Why would he say that? Even if it’s true?
Who needs enemies when you have Germany? And it ALWAYS seems to be Scholz. Spineless (and probably corrupt) to the core.
Just makes me respect Britain and France more now with their leadership vs Scholz’s leadershit
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***The Telegraph reports:***
Germany was accused of a “flagrant abuse of intelligence” after revealing that British soldiers are supporting Ukrainian forces launching long-range Storm Shadow missiles.
Olaf Scholz on Monday said he would not deliver the Taurus, Berlin’s equivalent of the Storm Shadow, as it would require soldiers assisting on the ground, citing the [UK and French approach with their own systems](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/27/macron-scholz-refusal-taurus-missiles-ukraine-war/). Mr Scholz argued that following the UK would make Germany a “participant in the war”.
The comments were seen as endangering British military and diplomatic personnel on the ground.
Tobias Ellwood, the former chairman of the Commons’ defence committee, said: “This is a flagrant abuse of intelligence deliberately designed to distract from Germany’s reluctance to arm Ukraine with its own long-range missile system. This will no doubt be used by Russia to racket up the escalator ladder.”
Mr Scholz was also criticised by German opposition MPs.
“The chancellor’s statement regarding France and Britain’s alleged involvement in operating long-range cruise missiles used in Ukraine is completely irresponsible,” Norbert Rottgen, a senior MP from Angela Merkel’s former ruling party, the CDU.
The German chancellor is under mounting pressure to deliver the long-range missile to disrupt Russia’s supply lines and prevent Moscow taking further territory.
He said on Monday that German soldiers could not follow their [British and French peers](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/24/britain-germany-missile-swap-ukraine-war-escalation/) in “the way of target control and accompanying target control”. The Storm Shadow is co-produced by the UK and France.
“German soldiers can at no point and in no place be linked with the targets that this system [the Taurus] reaches. Not even in Germany,” Mr Scholz said.
Britain is known to provide intelligence on Russian targets but it is unclear what level of support is given to Ukrainian troops firing its missiles on the ground.
On Tuesday, the UK Government announced it had a “small number” of soldiers deployed inside Ukraine, specifying only that some were involved in medical training.
Mr Scholz’s speculation on the role played by British troops in Ukraine has heightened concern for the safety of diplomats and other personnel stationed in the country, defence sources told The Telegraph.
It has also increased the threat of potential Russian overseas intelligence operations on British soil, the sources added.
**Read more:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/28/british-soldiers-help-ukraine-fire-missiles-olaf-scholz/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/28/british-soldiers-help-ukraine-fire-missiles-olaf-scholz/)
Scholz is genuinely a shockingly poor ally.
Seems like, Schulz is a russian asset he is blackmailed because he couldnt stop touching russian fsb hookers.
DILIGAF SCHOLTZ
Germany sucks ass. Fucking grow a backbone
Fucking unbelievable. what the hell did he opn his big fat mouth for? the one thing (we know about) that he shouldn’t have said.
But the Telegraph article goes on to say: ‘Mr Scholz’s speculation on the role played by British troops in Ukraine’ so it may have been speculation on his part; either way really bad form on his part, the fucking idiot
What a poor leader Germany has atm
Your little tattle tale brother is running an entire nation.
British troops are training the Ukrainians on how to use the tech, so yes they are helping them, this headline makes it sound like they are directly involved and that isnt the case.
IMO he is saying the quiet part loud. I would think that there are a lot of NATO advisors running around as “contract” operatives who can have plausible deniability in regards to training of weapons systems and other western warfare philosophies. Yeah, he is certainly not helping matters out.
Germany leaders are going from German shepard to a chihuaua. Grow a pair ffs
What a fucking clown
He’s a two faced coward.
Clown
Are Germany afraid of a nuclear attack from Russia? They’re part of NATO so shouldn’t be.
He is an awkward leader same as Merkel… they are dividing EU…
yes scholz thats a good thing?
oh no god forbid you participate in a war, after economically aiding the invading force for decades, even after they displayed aggression, in georgia and then crimea,
this guy and anyone who agrees with his position are absolute cowards.
Scholz is Germany’s Chamberlain. “I believe it will be a little war for our time. But no more. I don’t mind a little war, but not too much. I want Ukraine to win against Russia, but not too much. There we go, that showed Putin. And kept Germany out of a big war. Because, you know, if Germany’s good at anything it’s knowing how to contain potential world wars…”
Any other secret to tell russia?
One thing I will say – the UK has clearly been on of Ukraine’s most staunch allies through everything.
Hmmm may be a coincidence but they are slowly letting slip that we are putting boots on the ground and warming the Western European public up to the fact that we might have a conflict with Russia soon.
If it escalates then Russia loses, no? 🤷♂️
What a fucking idiot.
Not only is he a coward, but he is also simple too?
Germany is doing great things for Ukraine, and the support that Germans have shown is huge, but their leader is holding them back. Weak politicians in our capitals are the only reason Ukraine hasn’t pushed the Russians back yet.
wtf bro can you not?
Scholz excuse is as porous as Swiss cheese.
No one can tell me that Ukrainians cannot enter waypoints into a cruise missile.
Even if they are really clumsy, the path would “only” be suboptimal, namely too high above ground so that it would be easier to intercept or they might even run it into ground prematurely. Eyewateringly expensive and a waste of a good munition, really bad.
On the other hand, I do not believe that the Germans know more about Ukrainian terrain and placement of Russian AA than the Ukrainians and then providing maps is not participation. Maybe Scholz made them add a retina scan of the chancellor to authorize launch … but that would have been recent and could be removed.
The real reason is that whacking a certain bridge would symbollically sever Russia from certain territory and Russia would really not appreciate that. I also suspect that the Western diplomacy faction would really want to trade the aforementioned territory.
If a British soldier wants to go on holiday in Kiev. Who is going to stop him.
FFS. This is why you limit the dissemination of intelligence and leave out details people don’t need to know. Shit like this will endanger peoples lives, foreigners in Ukraine are already a russian priority military target for political propaganda.
I like Germany’s total contribution but this bald fraud needs to be stopped.
“German soldiers can at no point and in no place be linked with the targets that this system [the Taurus] reaches. Not even in Germany,” Mr Scholz said.
And why ist that? What’s so bad in stopping a genocide? Asking as a German. Which button do I have to push to destroy these targets?
Scholz you little scab, loose lips sink ships.
Why the fucking fuck would he divulge that?!
German here.
Just for you guys to know. I have no idea why he would say stuff like that. But trust me a lot of German People want to Support Ukraine with even more stuff. Ofc also including Taurus.
Just dont think just because Scholz said stuff like that, that the people here in my country dont care about Ukraine or anything similar.
We Support Ukraine. With or without Scholz.
Dont project this Kind of stuff to the German People.
Stay United.
Excellent. If it’s ok with Putin to have Russian foreign soldiers in Ukraine then that should apply to every other nationality, even more so, as they will have been invited, not illegally invaded.
Day1 – France: We may send NATO troops to Ukraine.
Day 2 – NATO: We are most definitely not sending our troops to Ukraine.
Day 3 – UK: Actually, our troops are already in Ukraine.
Funny.
He is simply incompetent.
Why would he say that? Even if it’s true?
Who needs enemies when you have Germany? And it ALWAYS seems to be Scholz. Spineless (and probably corrupt) to the core.
Just makes me respect Britain and France more now with their leadership vs Scholz’s leadershit