Yes it does. Someone’s got to do the dirty work and charities are the only ones stepping up to the plate.
We waste so much on NGO’s , especially when we sometimes have 2-4 ngo’s providing the same service. We need to cut that insane amount of funding asap
OP, could you give us a bit more of a breakdown on where the money goes and what the NGO field looks like? We can make a better judgement if we knew exactly what this all entails.
It is the price of not providing the services so you don’t have to take the blame when it goes wrong.
The government is such a cheapskate. They fund homeless and addiction services for a small fraction of its true cost and let ngos pick up the slack with fundraising from the public.
This includes all the non-HSE hospitals which is a about half of the funding.
The GAA, Bord na gCon, the racing industry etc. come under this, and it should also include the section 235 tax exemption for non-profit sporting bodies
Pretty sure your going to get a lot of homeless accommodation service in here too
There are lots of services that the government pay for, this says that the vast majority of the money is spent on for profit companies (about a third of government spending is wages, a third is transfers, and a third is services) – so roughly 75% of services spending is for profit
Probably former public services that have been privatised and now provided by NGOs.
Edit: I was wrong about this (see below).
> According to the latest estimates available from Benefacts, €5.9 billion in State funding was provided to the non-profit sector in 2018.
I find it odd that the Irish government needs to spend 1 million per year on an NGO to find out how much it spends on NGOs per year.
Also, I find it odd that the “Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform” said knowing the amount given to NGOs by Ireland is “not by job” but then gives a grant to an NGO to do so. Which is it.
Yes. Next.
A lot of these groups are really shady, like how they are campaigning to be allowed receive unlimited foreign funds, which is currently prohibited by lobbying legislation
Benefacts shows breakdown per NGO.
It is absolutely shocking the amount of government money that goes into funding non profits which don’t even seem to do much. I’m talking hundreds of thousands given to particular groups that essentially do nothing but look good on paper.
The Irish government has outsourced a huge amount of services to NGOs, healthcare, education and community services.
We’re effectively stuck with legacy NGOs here, because the one-off cost of buying out an NGO and replacing it with a state-owned body would be huge, and wouldn’t actually provide any additional services.
As an example, the Irish Wheelchair Association is an NGO that is almost solely responsible for providing wheelchairs to people in Ireland with disabilities.
They get about €60 million a year to provide wheelchair services. (i.e. they buy wheelchairs and give them to people, they maintain them etc)
If the government was to set up its own wheelchair services body under the aegis of the HSE, it would cost a large amount of money for the initial set up, and there’s little practical benefit to doing it since we’ve already got an NGO doing the same thing. That money spent wouldn’t actually provide more wheelchairs to anyone.
I’m using them as an example, there are hundreds of organisations like this, all getting state funding.
The state uses a lot of these organisations to fulfil essentially state services.
Like throwing money in the toilet.
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Benefacts being wound down is indicative of attempts to obscure what is going on with NGOs. Buried under the data here are the ones used to promote a political ideology of what Ireland should be. In addition the funds being transferred to groups in Northern Ireland and “to deepen links” with UK need to be accounted for separately and publicly.
They provide a service that the government doesn’t. If the government carried out those services, you’d be complaining about €5 billion going to lazy civil service workers
Do we have an NGO dedicated to reducing spend on NGO’s?
I remember that use to be a fairly large part of FG’s pitch to voters, getting rid of quangos and other extra spending.
This includes a huge amount of health care – most of your residential care for people with disabilities for example will be coming out of that money.
Its actually a bit too little in the way of money being spent. People are being neglected because of a lack of funds in places
I don’t know if it’s an issue but as far as I know, Benefacts no longer exists.
#Lots of brown envelopes to politicians.
we also spend more than we need to on the GAA. that whole industry is filled with money when there are more important things that need funding than a sport that only one country plays
Very important spend – just look at An Taisce and Friends of the Earth and all the great work their doing frustrating the planning process by taking judicial reviews to the Supreme Court at tax payers expense and ensuring no foreign manufacturing businesses will ever darken the doors of Ireland again!!!
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It doesn’t **need** to spend anything.
Yes it does. Someone’s got to do the dirty work and charities are the only ones stepping up to the plate.
We waste so much on NGO’s , especially when we sometimes have 2-4 ngo’s providing the same service. We need to cut that insane amount of funding asap
OP, could you give us a bit more of a breakdown on where the money goes and what the NGO field looks like? We can make a better judgement if we knew exactly what this all entails.
It is the price of not providing the services so you don’t have to take the blame when it goes wrong.
The government is such a cheapskate. They fund homeless and addiction services for a small fraction of its true cost and let ngos pick up the slack with fundraising from the public.
This includes all the non-HSE hospitals which is a about half of the funding.
The GAA, Bord na gCon, the racing industry etc. come under this, and it should also include the section 235 tax exemption for non-profit sporting bodies
Pretty sure your going to get a lot of homeless accommodation service in here too
There are lots of services that the government pay for, this says that the vast majority of the money is spent on for profit companies (about a third of government spending is wages, a third is transfers, and a third is services) – so roughly 75% of services spending is for profit
Probably former public services that have been privatised and now provided by NGOs.
Edit: I was wrong about this (see below).
> According to the latest estimates available from Benefacts, €5.9 billion in State funding was provided to the non-profit sector in 2018.
I find it odd that the Irish government needs to spend 1 million per year on an NGO to find out how much it spends on NGOs per year.
Also, I find it odd that the “Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform” said knowing the amount given to NGOs by Ireland is “not by job” but then gives a grant to an NGO to do so. Which is it.
Yes. Next.
A lot of these groups are really shady, like how they are campaigning to be allowed receive unlimited foreign funds, which is currently prohibited by lobbying legislation
Benefacts shows breakdown per NGO.
It is absolutely shocking the amount of government money that goes into funding non profits which don’t even seem to do much. I’m talking hundreds of thousands given to particular groups that essentially do nothing but look good on paper.
The Irish government has outsourced a huge amount of services to NGOs, healthcare, education and community services.
We’re effectively stuck with legacy NGOs here, because the one-off cost of buying out an NGO and replacing it with a state-owned body would be huge, and wouldn’t actually provide any additional services.
As an example, the Irish Wheelchair Association is an NGO that is almost solely responsible for providing wheelchairs to people in Ireland with disabilities.
They get about €60 million a year to provide wheelchair services. (i.e. they buy wheelchairs and give them to people, they maintain them etc)
If the government was to set up its own wheelchair services body under the aegis of the HSE, it would cost a large amount of money for the initial set up, and there’s little practical benefit to doing it since we’ve already got an NGO doing the same thing. That money spent wouldn’t actually provide more wheelchairs to anyone.
I’m using them as an example, there are hundreds of organisations like this, all getting state funding.
The state uses a lot of these organisations to fulfil essentially state services.
Like throwing money in the toilet.
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Benefacts being wound down is indicative of attempts to obscure what is going on with NGOs. Buried under the data here are the ones used to promote a political ideology of what Ireland should be. In addition the funds being transferred to groups in Northern Ireland and “to deepen links” with UK need to be accounted for separately and publicly.
They provide a service that the government doesn’t. If the government carried out those services, you’d be complaining about €5 billion going to lazy civil service workers
Do we have an NGO dedicated to reducing spend on NGO’s?
I remember that use to be a fairly large part of FG’s pitch to voters, getting rid of quangos and other extra spending.
This includes a huge amount of health care – most of your residential care for people with disabilities for example will be coming out of that money.
Its actually a bit too little in the way of money being spent. People are being neglected because of a lack of funds in places
I don’t know if it’s an issue but as far as I know, Benefacts no longer exists.
#Lots of brown envelopes to politicians.
we also spend more than we need to on the GAA. that whole industry is filled with money when there are more important things that need funding than a sport that only one country plays
Very important spend – just look at An Taisce and Friends of the Earth and all the great work their doing frustrating the planning process by taking judicial reviews to the Supreme Court at tax payers expense and ensuring no foreign manufacturing businesses will ever darken the doors of Ireland again!!!