Isn’t that why the GOP sacked the Supreme Court in the first place?
We’ve failed to come to grips with the fact that Republicans SUPPORT minority rule. They believe they should have power without winning the majority of votes.
It may not be dictatorial, but its dangerously close.
What is the point in taking what the lower courts basically laughed out of court?
The idea that a president is immune from criminal activity he conducts in office? Like Biden’s attorney brought up, by this logic he could just assassinate a political opponent without retribution.
The Supreme Court knows it’s bs and will rule that it’s bs, probably at least 7-2 (who knows about Alito and Thomas).
There are two possible reasons they’re taking the case. 1) they’re in the tank for Trump and trying to slow walk his trials, or 2) they’re arrogant and think THEY have to be the last word on something that is patently obvious and not worthy of a Supreme Court review.
Either way is kind of infuriating. If I’m a Quarterback in football and pass the ball when I’m 10 yards downfield, I’m not getting an official to review it. They penalize me right away because everyone knows it’s invalid and not even close to controversial.
So if they rule that the president has absolute immunity what is to stop Biden ordering that SCOTUS be assassinated and elections cancelled?
I already know how SCOTUS is going to rule on the immunity case. Alan Dershowitz said it in the second impeachment trial. He walked it back the next day, but he said in the trial on record. This is absolutely the way the Heritage Society will instruct the conservative justices…
“Every public official that I know believes that his election is in the public interest,” Dershowitz said Wednesday. “**And if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.**”
I hate to say it, but 2016 was a pivotal election because 3 SCOTUS seats were lost to Trump’s picks.
Sadly, in the election this year, you have people trying to “both sides” this, or worse, spread misinformation about Biden (Alexander Smirnov feeding Russian propaganda to the Republicans), to help Trump win another term. Not only would Trump further stack the SCOTUS with more ultra right wing judges, but he will certainly pardon himself for all the federal indictments he is under, and then try to finally kill democracy so that he can stay in power.
Will voters fall for the Russian propaganda again? I hope not … …
Can we add two more SC judges before April?
Judicial review is not in the Constitution. States should just ignore their rulings as unconstitutional.
Can’t wait to see the reasoning why only Trump gets to do whatever he wants but would never ever apply to a Democrat president.
The word this title is looking for is Theocracy. The Christian majority on the court issues edicts twice a year from on high that we are all forced to follow.
Imagine SCOTUS ruling in Trump’s favor? Biden advisors better be huddling up, to plan a way for Biden to commit any number of unconstitutional actions to secure our democracy.
Project 2025 is going exactly to plan…
Time to stack the courts and to arrest the yokels who start getting violent as a result.
The world is crazy right now, we don’t need America going full on crazy too. Please don’t vote Trump in November. I’m really worried about this. The GOP needs to reset.
SCOTUS will rule that presidents don’t have blanket immunity. But it will come after the election and thus Trump can pardon himself if he wins. And if Biden wins, Trump’s dead weight to the party anyway.
The “win” here was the delay
If they rule in Trump’s favor, they will essentially hobble the 3 co-equal branches of US government. But that might be what they want. That’s is, if they’re also in on the Project 2025 initiative that wants to turn the United States into a Trump-led autocracy.
I truly hope they follow the law and do the right thing.
The other reality is too chilling.
That is what they’re doing, it’s what they’ve been doing a long time
The fact that it was requested by Smith ages ago knowing this was the obvious pitfall
Being specifically told this is what the defence is aiming for
Then doing exactly what you were warned about not doing
This is too much
They need to pull the stay on the case while the SC drags their feet. The SC shouldn’t be able to decide such a critical case by just delaying until it may not matter
And if they do, then I for one hope Joe goes full Dark Brandon and cleans house.
Because if we’re gonna be stuck with a dictator, I sure the hell don’t want it to be Trump.
I’m sure their verdict will be delivered late November assuming Donald is elected…
He’s a cornered rat and his only refuge is the most powerful elected office on the planet.
That’s the plan. Old white dudes aren’t fucking around, and this is their last chance to make America caucasian again.
What a disgrace, especially after refusing to hear the case 2 months ago when Jack Smith urged these clowns to get it out of the way.
We need a new constitution overhaul of the entire government and court system. Fuck first past the post. Let’s try a parliamentary system in which coalitions are needed to get shit done
Buy a gun, learn to shoot it, vote in every election, donate to anti-fascist candidates, and don’t be a pussy.
If they take something you value, burn tires on the freeway. Block a port. Be a nuisance. .
They already have by putting it off for so long. America is not a democracy.
I don’t see anyway they give 100% immunity. This just has to be a delay tactic so he doesn’t have to face the court before the election. If they do overturn and say a president has 100% immunity what would be stopping Biden from placing a hit on Trump or just deciding to cancel an election and stay in power?
Could.. Could? Fucking could! They already are.
Stop with the wishy washy titles and call a spade a spade.
Biden’s response should be
“As president I am about to assign an investigatory task force. This task force will investigate every aspect of every Supreme Court justice and any member of their family. This may include detention and interrogations.”
“The Whitehouse lawyers will also file a case before the court to ask if it is okay.”
Not if we don’t fucking let them.
Jesus fucking Christ. Read the Constitution.
The only reason we’re here is because the right has spent the last few decades manufacturing consent by gerrymandering, rigging, lying, stacking every thing they have done has been “legal” but not really.
McConnell refusing to have a vote on Obamas SCOTUS pick then pushing ACB through quickly is just one example. Then democrats just throwing their hands in the air and saying oh well.
Biden could right now say I’ve got a democratic senate. I’ll just appoint a few more justices to balance out the fuckery. No fucking doubt in my mind a GOP president wouldn’t do this in response to a democratic packing of the courts through planned retirements and shady Senate schemes.
We only have a society of laws when everyone agrees to them. If fully half the country decides this Supreme Court is too crooked to respect anymore then those laws go right the fuck out the window.
If the Supreme Court got together tomorrow to hear a hypothetical case arguing that Trump should be God emperor do you think everyone would just say, oh well, looks like Trump is our emperor now. Fuck no they wouldn’t. It would be war.
But it seems a whole lot of people will sit and do nothing beyond grumbling if they essentially give him the same power and usher him into office again with unlimited powers.
So a president is so powerful that he might be immune from trying to incite a coup but he definitely doesn’t have the power to grant forgiveness on federally backed student loans. Got it.
trump is going to get away with this shit end of story
I really wish I had the money to flee the USA this is getting scary
We’re not going to just let that happen.
“Why didn’t anyone stop them?”
“Idk it was hard”
Yeah I’m sorry that’s not a good excuse. We have a civic duty to try to stop a totalitarian takeover of the government. I’m not living under that and the longer we wait to fight it the more entrenched and difficult it will become to defeat it.
Even this court can’t possibly sink so low. Can they?
If the SCOTUS rules the Trump has absolute immunity, the people must take to the streets en masse. It will be our last hope to keep the Democracy.
We are a constitutional republic. Why do I feel like nobody understands what this means? It means we could not become a dictatorship, or anything even remotely resembling one unless MOST of the population wanted that, and continued to want it for a long long time.
Even without the legal obstacles, it doesn’t much to understand that dictatorships aren’t borne from nations with even a mediocre quality of life. They’re borne from most or all of; poverty, defeat, starvation, desperation, being isolated from the outside world, and having a common enemy.
I find it troubling that this news happened concurrently with Mitch “the turtle” McConnell stepping down and Mike Johnson slow walking the swearing in of Rep. Suozo. Consolidation of power? GOP RIP for sure but I think we all see what’s coming. I hope blue state governors are talking to each other.
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The Roberts court will live in infamy.
Isn’t that why the GOP sacked the Supreme Court in the first place?
We’ve failed to come to grips with the fact that Republicans SUPPORT minority rule. They believe they should have power without winning the majority of votes.
It may not be dictatorial, but its dangerously close.
What is the point in taking what the lower courts basically laughed out of court?
The idea that a president is immune from criminal activity he conducts in office? Like Biden’s attorney brought up, by this logic he could just assassinate a political opponent without retribution.
The Supreme Court knows it’s bs and will rule that it’s bs, probably at least 7-2 (who knows about Alito and Thomas).
There are two possible reasons they’re taking the case. 1) they’re in the tank for Trump and trying to slow walk his trials, or 2) they’re arrogant and think THEY have to be the last word on something that is patently obvious and not worthy of a Supreme Court review.
Either way is kind of infuriating. If I’m a Quarterback in football and pass the ball when I’m 10 yards downfield, I’m not getting an official to review it. They penalize me right away because everyone knows it’s invalid and not even close to controversial.
So if they rule that the president has absolute immunity what is to stop Biden ordering that SCOTUS be assassinated and elections cancelled?
I already know how SCOTUS is going to rule on the immunity case. Alan Dershowitz said it in the second impeachment trial. He walked it back the next day, but he said in the trial on record. This is absolutely the way the Heritage Society will instruct the conservative justices…
“Every public official that I know believes that his election is in the public interest,” Dershowitz said Wednesday. “**And if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.**”
I hate to say it, but 2016 was a pivotal election because 3 SCOTUS seats were lost to Trump’s picks.
Sadly, in the election this year, you have people trying to “both sides” this, or worse, spread misinformation about Biden (Alexander Smirnov feeding Russian propaganda to the Republicans), to help Trump win another term. Not only would Trump further stack the SCOTUS with more ultra right wing judges, but he will certainly pardon himself for all the federal indictments he is under, and then try to finally kill democracy so that he can stay in power.
Will voters fall for the Russian propaganda again? I hope not … …
Can we add two more SC judges before April?
Judicial review is not in the Constitution. States should just ignore their rulings as unconstitutional.
Can’t wait to see the reasoning why only Trump gets to do whatever he wants but would never ever apply to a Democrat president.
The word this title is looking for is Theocracy. The Christian majority on the court issues edicts twice a year from on high that we are all forced to follow.
Imagine SCOTUS ruling in Trump’s favor? Biden advisors better be huddling up, to plan a way for Biden to commit any number of unconstitutional actions to secure our democracy.
Project 2025 is going exactly to plan…
Time to stack the courts and to arrest the yokels who start getting violent as a result.
The world is crazy right now, we don’t need America going full on crazy too. Please don’t vote Trump in November. I’m really worried about this. The GOP needs to reset.
SCOTUS will rule that presidents don’t have blanket immunity. But it will come after the election and thus Trump can pardon himself if he wins. And if Biden wins, Trump’s dead weight to the party anyway.
The “win” here was the delay
If they rule in Trump’s favor, they will essentially hobble the 3 co-equal branches of US government. But that might be what they want. That’s is, if they’re also in on the Project 2025 initiative that wants to turn the United States into a Trump-led autocracy.
I truly hope they follow the law and do the right thing.
The other reality is too chilling.
That is what they’re doing, it’s what they’ve been doing a long time
The fact that it was requested by Smith ages ago knowing this was the obvious pitfall
Being specifically told this is what the defence is aiming for
Then doing exactly what you were warned about not doing
This is too much
They need to pull the stay on the case while the SC drags their feet. The SC shouldn’t be able to decide such a critical case by just delaying until it may not matter
And if they do, then I for one hope Joe goes full Dark Brandon and cleans house.
Because if we’re gonna be stuck with a dictator, I sure the hell don’t want it to be Trump.
I’m sure their verdict will be delivered late November assuming Donald is elected…
He’s a cornered rat and his only refuge is the most powerful elected office on the planet.
That’s the plan. Old white dudes aren’t fucking around, and this is their last chance to make America caucasian again.
What a disgrace, especially after refusing to hear the case 2 months ago when Jack Smith urged these clowns to get it out of the way.
We need a new constitution overhaul of the entire government and court system. Fuck first past the post. Let’s try a parliamentary system in which coalitions are needed to get shit done
Buy a gun, learn to shoot it, vote in every election, donate to anti-fascist candidates, and don’t be a pussy.
If they take something you value, burn tires on the freeway. Block a port. Be a nuisance. .
They already have by putting it off for so long. America is not a democracy.
I don’t see anyway they give 100% immunity. This just has to be a delay tactic so he doesn’t have to face the court before the election. If they do overturn and say a president has 100% immunity what would be stopping Biden from placing a hit on Trump or just deciding to cancel an election and stay in power?
Could.. Could? Fucking could! They already are.
Stop with the wishy washy titles and call a spade a spade.
Biden’s response should be
“As president I am about to assign an investigatory task force. This task force will investigate every aspect of every Supreme Court justice and any member of their family. This may include detention and interrogations.”
“The Whitehouse lawyers will also file a case before the court to ask if it is okay.”
Not if we don’t fucking let them.
Jesus fucking Christ. Read the Constitution.
The only reason we’re here is because the right has spent the last few decades manufacturing consent by gerrymandering, rigging, lying, stacking every thing they have done has been “legal” but not really.
McConnell refusing to have a vote on Obamas SCOTUS pick then pushing ACB through quickly is just one example. Then democrats just throwing their hands in the air and saying oh well.
Biden could right now say I’ve got a democratic senate. I’ll just appoint a few more justices to balance out the fuckery. No fucking doubt in my mind a GOP president wouldn’t do this in response to a democratic packing of the courts through planned retirements and shady Senate schemes.
We only have a society of laws when everyone agrees to them. If fully half the country decides this Supreme Court is too crooked to respect anymore then those laws go right the fuck out the window.
If the Supreme Court got together tomorrow to hear a hypothetical case arguing that Trump should be God emperor do you think everyone would just say, oh well, looks like Trump is our emperor now. Fuck no they wouldn’t. It would be war.
But it seems a whole lot of people will sit and do nothing beyond grumbling if they essentially give him the same power and usher him into office again with unlimited powers.
So a president is so powerful that he might be immune from trying to incite a coup but he definitely doesn’t have the power to grant forgiveness on federally backed student loans. Got it.
trump is going to get away with this shit end of story
I really wish I had the money to flee the USA this is getting scary
We’re not going to just let that happen.
“Why didn’t anyone stop them?”
“Idk it was hard”
Yeah I’m sorry that’s not a good excuse. We have a civic duty to try to stop a totalitarian takeover of the government. I’m not living under that and the longer we wait to fight it the more entrenched and difficult it will become to defeat it.
Even this court can’t possibly sink so low. Can they?
If the SCOTUS rules the Trump has absolute immunity, the people must take to the streets en masse. It will be our last hope to keep the Democracy.
We are a constitutional republic. Why do I feel like nobody understands what this means? It means we could not become a dictatorship, or anything even remotely resembling one unless MOST of the population wanted that, and continued to want it for a long long time.
Even without the legal obstacles, it doesn’t much to understand that dictatorships aren’t borne from nations with even a mediocre quality of life. They’re borne from most or all of; poverty, defeat, starvation, desperation, being isolated from the outside world, and having a common enemy.
I find it troubling that this news happened concurrently with Mitch “the turtle” McConnell stepping down and Mike Johnson slow walking the swearing in of Rep. Suozo. Consolidation of power? GOP RIP for sure but I think we all see what’s coming. I hope blue state governors are talking to each other.