Not usually a fan of this guy, but deeply admiring his recent approach of getting Europe to “step up” as MAGA Republicans sabotage US AID efforts.
He’s a real one. I don’t think Russia will actually go to nukes if he does. And I think it could prevent Ukraine from losing the war. Seems a good move. See if he does it I guess.
Macron has stones!
Starting to suspect things like France talking about troops in Ukraine, and Finland saying it’s ok to use its weapons on targets in russia, are test cases, to see what the reaction is, prodding the enemy rather than surprising him.
You gotta Honor de Ballsack on this guy.
Those emboldened for conquest rarely rush to commit murder suicide. I think a war with Russia stays conventional so long as NATO doesn’t encroach past internationally recognised Russian borders.
How would France do if they went toe-to-toe with Russia? France and Russia are both nuclear powers. It only takes a small fraction of a nation’s nuclear arsenal to do damage of Biblical proportions.
I’ve Googled “Who would win….?” questions, but the responses are all years prior to the 2022 Ukrainian invasion. We now know that Russia’s military might is nowhere near what we thought.
As an American I love this statement of strength from Macron and hope it’s an indication both of European commitment to its security and of an overarching coalition strategy.
Chances of french citizens accepting a draft or wanting to go into a meatgrinder are pretty small.
Do it
Yes Macron, it’s time we call Pootine’s nuclear bluff. Slavic Hitler knows the whole concept and people of Russia will cease exist except in history books if they dare touch a nuke. Let’s finally step up for Ukraine.
Blow up the Kremlin.
Tired of this shit
What’s the point of having some shady foreign legion lying around if you’re not going to do some shady foreign legion shit?
I think Macron and Zelensky have a special relationship and Macron is 120% in it until the end.
There’s a documentary that shows Macron receiving the call from Zelensky that the invasion has started and it’s “total war” now.
It’s a powerful moment that changed everything and you could see how Macron was digesting the news in real time, and probably re-evaluating his understanding of geo politics as well. Macron definitely believes in Zelensky and that he can get the job done.
If these guys really want to fuck with Russia without shooting Russians, fund, arm, and organize the Belarusian resistance. Help them overthrow Lukashenko. Russia can barely fight on one front, much less two. Disabling their FOBs in Belarus would be a huge blow.
I can’t see NATO countries doing this (even as an independent act outside of NATO) unless they’re just specialists in the background keeping donated western equipment working.
There has to be more to this than they’re letting on, as things can escalate out of control. Next thing you know Russia and the West are trying to shadow each other’s submarines and ships at sea like they did during the Cold War. Then someone panics or loses their nerves and something really stupid happens like a nation loses a submarine that is a nuclear deterrant and then that government is left wondering if this is a prelude to an actual nuclear attack and if they need to respond.
Minus special forces which all sides employ covertly in places they legally shouldn’t be, I just can’t see regular army units (as in fighting soldiers) being posted to Ukraine.
We need 50,000 NATO observers and humanitarian assistance battalians out in Kyiv. Let’s GOOO.
The real question is why can’t Germany take European defense seriously.
Respect for Macron!
France as enough nukes to hit all the important places in Russia . . and Russia knows this. Its been very much exposed as a “paper bear” with its war with Ukraine. If France joins Ukraine they would push Russia out of all of Ukraine and Putin knows it. France has seen what Russia has done to the American Maga party. . as its already attempted to push a russian leaning party in France.
I don’t care much for Macron, but Russia has teased brinkmanship since the invasion. They’ve clearly been waving and leveraging MAD against the West in order to ensure their invasion against Ukrainel goes unimpeded.
Maybe now’s the time for the West to finally play the same game with Russia to force a realistic end to the war.
Threatening nuclear war is a sign of weakness because he’s got nothing else to threaten with. “I’m going to obliterate you with artillery”, lolz
Europe should manage west Ukraine west of the Dnipro.
Ukraine as is would only exist as eastern Ukraine and focus all its power to the east.
We give them the land back when they defeat Russia.
We continue status quo with our financial support towards the new “east” Ukraine.
Putin won’t have shit to say, we conquer Ukrainian land with their approval and he will gargle with rage.
We’re not engaging against Russia, we’re “invading” Ukraine with diplomacy.
Making a good chunk of Ukraine de facto under European management.
Its a scary thought, but if the free people of the world are going to have to fight a war against the mobocrats of Russia eventually, right now while they are suffering attrition in Ukraine is about as good of chance for defeating them swiftly as any time in modern history.
I think that as a first step. They should put soldiers near polish/blatic -Russian/Belorussian borders and dig in and conduct some exercises. Russia and Belarus would have to do the same to counter. It would put a more budget strain for Russia and Belarus and maybe even take away some soldiers stationing in Ukraine.
DO IT!
Send troops immediately. And if Russia attacks France, it’s on.
Thoughts on NATO sending “defensive” troops to protect the northern border with Belarus so it frees up Ukrainian for the front lines and allows easier movement of weapons to Ukraine.
Like another comment said, russia has backed down from each previous threat of escalation.
I remember during the The Kosovo War when Sarajevo was under siege for months and month on end. America and all of Europe was like – oh we can’t do nothing. Russia this and Russia that.
Then Mitterrand said “you fucking bunch of pussies”, gets into a helicopter and land at the Sarajevo airport.
If it’s a serious challenge Russians fold.
Putin cannot take on NATO. His Black Sea Fleet is getting sunk by a country that doesn’t have a navy.
“The speaker of Russia’s lower house of parliament even warned Macron against sending troops to Ukraine, saying they would meet the same fate as Napoleon’s army.”
Somehow I don’t see how that could be the case in the 21st century.
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Not usually a fan of this guy, but deeply admiring his recent approach of getting Europe to “step up” as MAGA Republicans sabotage US AID efforts.
He’s a real one. I don’t think Russia will actually go to nukes if he does. And I think it could prevent Ukraine from losing the war. Seems a good move. See if he does it I guess.
Macron has stones!
Starting to suspect things like France talking about troops in Ukraine, and Finland saying it’s ok to use its weapons on targets in russia, are test cases, to see what the reaction is, prodding the enemy rather than surprising him.
You gotta Honor de Ballsack on this guy.
Those emboldened for conquest rarely rush to commit murder suicide. I think a war with Russia stays conventional so long as NATO doesn’t encroach past internationally recognised Russian borders.
How would France do if they went toe-to-toe with Russia? France and Russia are both nuclear powers. It only takes a small fraction of a nation’s nuclear arsenal to do damage of Biblical proportions.
I’ve Googled “Who would win….?” questions, but the responses are all years prior to the 2022 Ukrainian invasion. We now know that Russia’s military might is nowhere near what we thought.
As an American I love this statement of strength from Macron and hope it’s an indication both of European commitment to its security and of an overarching coalition strategy.
Chances of french citizens accepting a draft or wanting to go into a meatgrinder are pretty small.
Do it
Yes Macron, it’s time we call Pootine’s nuclear bluff. Slavic Hitler knows the whole concept and people of Russia will cease exist except in history books if they dare touch a nuke. Let’s finally step up for Ukraine.
Blow up the Kremlin.
Tired of this shit
What’s the point of having some shady foreign legion lying around if you’re not going to do some shady foreign legion shit?
I think Macron and Zelensky have a special relationship and Macron is 120% in it until the end.
There’s a documentary that shows Macron receiving the call from Zelensky that the invasion has started and it’s “total war” now.
It’s a powerful moment that changed everything and you could see how Macron was digesting the news in real time, and probably re-evaluating his understanding of geo politics as well. Macron definitely believes in Zelensky and that he can get the job done.
If these guys really want to fuck with Russia without shooting Russians, fund, arm, and organize the Belarusian resistance. Help them overthrow Lukashenko. Russia can barely fight on one front, much less two. Disabling their FOBs in Belarus would be a huge blow.
I can’t see NATO countries doing this (even as an independent act outside of NATO) unless they’re just specialists in the background keeping donated western equipment working.
There has to be more to this than they’re letting on, as things can escalate out of control. Next thing you know Russia and the West are trying to shadow each other’s submarines and ships at sea like they did during the Cold War. Then someone panics or loses their nerves and something really stupid happens like a nation loses a submarine that is a nuclear deterrant and then that government is left wondering if this is a prelude to an actual nuclear attack and if they need to respond.
Minus special forces which all sides employ covertly in places they legally shouldn’t be, I just can’t see regular army units (as in fighting soldiers) being posted to Ukraine.
We need 50,000 NATO observers and humanitarian assistance battalians out in Kyiv. Let’s GOOO.
The real question is why can’t Germany take European defense seriously.
Respect for Macron!
France as enough nukes to hit all the important places in Russia . . and Russia knows this. Its been very much exposed as a “paper bear” with its war with Ukraine. If France joins Ukraine they would push Russia out of all of Ukraine and Putin knows it. France has seen what Russia has done to the American Maga party. . as its already attempted to push a russian leaning party in France.
I don’t care much for Macron, but Russia has teased brinkmanship since the invasion. They’ve clearly been waving and leveraging MAD against the West in order to ensure their invasion against Ukrainel goes unimpeded.
Maybe now’s the time for the West to finally play the same game with Russia to force a realistic end to the war.
Threatening nuclear war is a sign of weakness because he’s got nothing else to threaten with. “I’m going to obliterate you with artillery”, lolz
Europe should manage west Ukraine west of the Dnipro.
Ukraine as is would only exist as eastern Ukraine and focus all its power to the east.
We give them the land back when they defeat Russia.
We continue status quo with our financial support towards the new “east” Ukraine.
Putin won’t have shit to say, we conquer Ukrainian land with their approval and he will gargle with rage.
We’re not engaging against Russia, we’re “invading” Ukraine with diplomacy.
Making a good chunk of Ukraine de facto under European management.
Its a scary thought, but if the free people of the world are going to have to fight a war against the mobocrats of Russia eventually, right now while they are suffering attrition in Ukraine is about as good of chance for defeating them swiftly as any time in modern history.
I think that as a first step. They should put soldiers near polish/blatic -Russian/Belorussian borders and dig in and conduct some exercises. Russia and Belarus would have to do the same to counter. It would put a more budget strain for Russia and Belarus and maybe even take away some soldiers stationing in Ukraine.
DO IT!
Send troops immediately. And if Russia attacks France, it’s on.
Thoughts on NATO sending “defensive” troops to protect the northern border with Belarus so it frees up Ukrainian for the front lines and allows easier movement of weapons to Ukraine.
Like another comment said, russia has backed down from each previous threat of escalation.
I remember during the The Kosovo War when Sarajevo was under siege for months and month on end. America and all of Europe was like – oh we can’t do nothing. Russia this and Russia that.
Then Mitterrand said “you fucking bunch of pussies”, gets into a helicopter and land at the Sarajevo airport.
If it’s a serious challenge Russians fold.
Putin cannot take on NATO. His Black Sea Fleet is getting sunk by a country that doesn’t have a navy.
“The speaker of Russia’s lower house of parliament even warned Macron against sending troops to Ukraine, saying they would meet the same fate as Napoleon’s army.”
Somehow I don’t see how that could be the case in the 21st century.