Ribbentrop – Molotov pact all over. Well played germany. I guess…
“German government officials have expressed concern that such deliveries could push tensions higher and make negotiations more difficult. “
Because their “pacifist” idea is to make concessions to the bully.
When someone punches you and you refuse to punch back, you’re not a pacifist. You’re an idiot.
I can understand the US wanting to push things towards war (unlikely to affect them, unless things go full nuclear winter) but all the Europeans who live right nearby clamoring for more weapons make me absolutely sick. These people must have their heads stuck in video games and don’t understand the potential consequences of playing with fire. Thanks German government for being the (quite isolated it seems) adults in the room.
Oh boy, imagine thread like that but with Hungary or Poland doing this – Reddit would go ape shit about it, but Germany? Most people just don’t care and act like they don’t see this. Narration, this only matters.
Don’t worry, 233,031 mi² can be sold bit by bit to please daddy bear for a long peace time.
Because Germany is an Russian sellout, no wonder last SDP chancellor is a Gasprom director now.
Russian love german cars
Nord Stream 2?
I honestly can see Russia using the arms buildup of Ukraine as an excuse to start a conflict. As dumb as it sounds Putin is so slimy he could pull it off. I mean he already grabbed like an eighth of Ukraine just cause some people there identify as Russian.
“The Russian government would be more impressed by the threat of heavy economic consequences than 2,000 anti-tank weapons,” he said.”
Well. I think Russia will be more impressed by heavy sanctions AND 2000 AT weapons. But, that’s just me…
Because it is contested area and you don’t deliver weapons to contested area for no side.
You give weed to all involved parties and make love and flower power.
That’s how it is done right.
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That’s why it’s not a good idea to built the new fighter plane with the Germans. We won’t be able to sell any
If you get a shiny New Pipeline you cant be against russia.
Hmmm pipeline northstream 2 just finished. Coincidents? Maybe
Are they ready to feed 5 million refugees? Because it looks like instead of Ukraine in the NATO/EU they would get Ukrainians moved in the NATO/EU countries.
Never thought id say this but Sigma british people
It is the classic good cop – bad cop tactics
As a German this is such a shame. At least defensive weapons should be allowed.
buhu germany wont send weapons to deescalate qq. because a few leos and 416 will make a difference. The world in its current state is just so utterly fucked up. As if it changes anything. Or do the people of reddit want germany to send a few divisions over there to keep the peace?
SPD: suck putins dick
gas, thats why.
Really, because of World War II they refuse to arm any country which might get into conflict with Russia? Yes, you were the bad guys back then, but that doesn’t mean you have to be the bad guys now…
> Both the United States and the United Kingdom have announced arms deliveries, mostly handguns, ammunition and anti-tank weapons.
I am thinking that *DW* may have misinterpreted “small arms” as “handguns”.
It’s their greens isn’t it? Why people vote in such stupid parties?
Because Germany is Putin’ s bitch.
Germany wtf man…
— We need to make them pay the cost!
— Oil&gas embargo?
— Eh, no, our economy will suffer and we’ll lose the next elections.
— Close Nord Stream 2?
— It hasn’t even been opened! And we made big investments there. I don’t even know why it’s Russian, it might as well be German!
— Take Ukraine into NATO?
— Good Lord, no! It’s like oil&gas embargo, but even worse.
— Maybe at least send them weapons?
— But Russians then will call us Nazis! That’s not acceptable!
— How do you proceed then?
— We’ll discuss it with our partners.
“German government officials have expressed concern that such deliveries could push tensions higher and make negotiations more difficult. ” I agree, the opponent will always be very confused when you negotiate with your pants down.
It’s impressive how Germany has managed to be on the wrong side of every foreign policy issue since Germany was formed.
Good. I don’t want my country to participate in the US’ newest warmongering attempt to further polarize power in the west.
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Ribbentrop – Molotov pact all over. Well played germany. I guess…
“German government officials have expressed concern that such deliveries could push tensions higher and make negotiations more difficult. “
Because their “pacifist” idea is to make concessions to the bully.
When someone punches you and you refuse to punch back, you’re not a pacifist. You’re an idiot.
I can understand the US wanting to push things towards war (unlikely to affect them, unless things go full nuclear winter) but all the Europeans who live right nearby clamoring for more weapons make me absolutely sick. These people must have their heads stuck in video games and don’t understand the potential consequences of playing with fire. Thanks German government for being the (quite isolated it seems) adults in the room.
Oh boy, imagine thread like that but with Hungary or Poland doing this – Reddit would go ape shit about it, but Germany? Most people just don’t care and act like they don’t see this. Narration, this only matters.
Don’t worry, 233,031 mi² can be sold bit by bit to please daddy bear for a long peace time.
Because Germany is an Russian sellout, no wonder last SDP chancellor is a Gasprom director now.
Russian love german cars
Nord Stream 2?
I honestly can see Russia using the arms buildup of Ukraine as an excuse to start a conflict. As dumb as it sounds Putin is so slimy he could pull it off. I mean he already grabbed like an eighth of Ukraine just cause some people there identify as Russian.
“The Russian government would be more impressed by the threat of heavy economic consequences than 2,000 anti-tank weapons,” he said.”
Well. I think Russia will be more impressed by heavy sanctions AND 2000 AT weapons. But, that’s just me…
Because it is contested area and you don’t deliver weapons to contested area for no side.
You give weed to all involved parties and make love and flower power.
That’s how it is done right.
[removed]
That’s why it’s not a good idea to built the new fighter plane with the Germans. We won’t be able to sell any
If you get a shiny New Pipeline you cant be against russia.
Hmmm pipeline northstream 2 just finished. Coincidents? Maybe
Are they ready to feed 5 million refugees? Because it looks like instead of Ukraine in the NATO/EU they would get Ukrainians moved in the NATO/EU countries.
https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/19-january-eighth-c17-out-of-raf-brize-norton-heading-to
Never thought id say this but Sigma british people
It is the classic good cop – bad cop tactics
As a German this is such a shame. At least defensive weapons should be allowed.
buhu germany wont send weapons to deescalate qq. because a few leos and 416 will make a difference. The world in its current state is just so utterly fucked up. As if it changes anything. Or do the people of reddit want germany to send a few divisions over there to keep the peace?
SPD: suck putins dick
gas, thats why.
Really, because of World War II they refuse to arm any country which might get into conflict with Russia? Yes, you were the bad guys back then, but that doesn’t mean you have to be the bad guys now…
> Both the United States and the United Kingdom have announced arms deliveries, mostly handguns, ammunition and anti-tank weapons.
I am thinking that *DW* may have misinterpreted “small arms” as “handguns”.
It’s their greens isn’t it? Why people vote in such stupid parties?
Because Germany is Putin’ s bitch.
Germany wtf man…
— We need to make them pay the cost!
— Oil&gas embargo?
— Eh, no, our economy will suffer and we’ll lose the next elections.
— Close Nord Stream 2?
— It hasn’t even been opened! And we made big investments there. I don’t even know why it’s Russian, it might as well be German!
— Take Ukraine into NATO?
— Good Lord, no! It’s like oil&gas embargo, but even worse.
— Maybe at least send them weapons?
— But Russians then will call us Nazis! That’s not acceptable!
— How do you proceed then?
— We’ll discuss it with our partners.
“German government officials have expressed concern that such deliveries could push tensions higher and make negotiations more difficult. ” I agree, the opponent will always be very confused when you negotiate with your pants down.
It’s impressive how Germany has managed to be on the wrong side of every foreign policy issue since Germany was formed.
Good. I don’t want my country to participate in the US’ newest warmongering attempt to further polarize power in the west.
German responsibility to Ukraine Tim Snyder
I cannot understand if it is still a parody?
https://streamable.com/jagogq