Germany has declined to join allies such as the US and UK in shipping weapons to Ukraine.

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  1. People (mostly in Germany and in the EU South, incl. Greece and Cyprus) have been begging Germany to stop selling arms abroad.

    It very much looks like they listened.

  2. Supply guns to Ukraine = Germany in darkness for the next 10 years. Seems like a smart decision

  3. No Germany decided many years back to stop selling weappons to conflict regions. The new government sticks to this. There is currently disscussions ongoing in Germany to delivery non lethal military equipment like: protection wests helmets, vehicles, night vision,…
    They disscuss to grant an exception for defensive systems like missile defense and similar.

    The initial “no” is currently open again for review because of Russias behaviour.

  4. Why would we heat up a simmering conflict by *sending weapons to it*, and risk it breaking out into an *actual* war? That seems like a no-brainer.

    I really don’t understand what the other countries are hoping to achieve by sending weapons to the Ukraine. It’s not like weapons will deter Russia from attacking if it wants to (and at the moment it’s not looking like it wants to) – and having more weapons in a conflict zone means that the chance of *someone* with an itchy trigger finger using them and starting a descending spiral increases.

    If we want to push back against Russia’s behaviour, then the response is diplomacy and sanctions (with as broad and united a front as possible – that’s been the biggest weakness so far), not trying to pretend like we’re playing Eastern Europe: Total War.

  5. Its weird how many people in other subs claim this is Germany „picking the wrong side“ when they are literally part of the ongoing negotiations team trying to prevent further escalation. If Germany sent weapons, I have no doubt Russia would call them biased and leave the table.

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