They’re underpaid, hiring shit people, and constantly in the news for turning a blind eye to crimes done by the rich and powerful, for cracking down on protest when the vast majority of the public oppose the actions of the current government, and for high profile rape cases.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want to join them.
The good ones either left when Cameron changed the pensions and employment conditions about a decade ago to go drive trains for less stress and £60k a year pay. They were the mid service backbone. Those with more service are now reaching retirement age and are not staying . Why would you.
The vast majority of recruits since 2015 are not up to the job, half shouldn’t have got past vetting stage- not that they even have effective vetting anymore.
They lack basic interpersonal skills,have never dealt with conflict or have any meaningful life experience. They don’t know when and how to use discretion or justify use of force and sadly have ineffective and disinterested senior management, who are too busy focused on targets and getting a QPM.
Not a force and not a service, not a vocation, just a job now.
Unlike the public, when you join the public services you’re guilty until proven innocent, this constant assumption that you must be guilty of misconduct and common sense isn’t written in the rule book has a massive blow on morale.
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Back fill with the Army, and backfill them with the NHS and teachers….
It’s like being underpaid, over worked and having a lack of respect from the public isn’t the best for retention.
But one thing that I haven’t seen is the poor recruitment strategy.
The police are aiming for University grads by making having a degree the best way to join. Yes you can join without a degree but not only are you on a longer probation plus training period (3 years for non degree holders 2 for degree holders), you also have to do more entrance exams. But guess what? People laden with debt after university would rather a wage that actually covers this.
Perhaps easing entrance standards and aiming for working class/ ex forces would improve recruitment.
So where are all the rapists, paedos and murderers finding their employment is the more pressing issue.
Yeah, well if you hire anyone and everyone, most of those people will get what they came for and go off to better things. There’s no big reward for long service, and the wages are pretty bad and the job is very difficult with horrific hours…
Where’s the benefit? Unless it’s your dream job, I can’t see why people joining now would stay there long-term.
Alongside the numerous controversies and the public’s wavering belief in the policing system, it makes the job even harder than it already is.
Maybe morale would improve if they were allowed to catch violent criminals who are put away for a decent period of time, rather that the derisory sentences currently been handed down or being let off!
Instead they have to spend their time on someone because someone else was offended by a reddit post.
Weird how people don’t want to be the private militia of a government that’s fucking them over too, innit
Is anyone surprised? It’s like being spat in the face and asking for seconds.
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They’re underpaid, hiring shit people, and constantly in the news for turning a blind eye to crimes done by the rich and powerful, for cracking down on protest when the vast majority of the public oppose the actions of the current government, and for high profile rape cases.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want to join them.
The good ones either left when Cameron changed the pensions and employment conditions about a decade ago to go drive trains for less stress and £60k a year pay. They were the mid service backbone. Those with more service are now reaching retirement age and are not staying . Why would you.
The vast majority of recruits since 2015 are not up to the job, half shouldn’t have got past vetting stage- not that they even have effective vetting anymore.
They lack basic interpersonal skills,have never dealt with conflict or have any meaningful life experience. They don’t know when and how to use discretion or justify use of force and sadly have ineffective and disinterested senior management, who are too busy focused on targets and getting a QPM.
Not a force and not a service, not a vocation, just a job now.
Unlike the public, when you join the public services you’re guilty until proven innocent, this constant assumption that you must be guilty of misconduct and common sense isn’t written in the rule book has a massive blow on morale.
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Back fill with the Army, and backfill them with the NHS and teachers….
It’s like being underpaid, over worked and having a lack of respect from the public isn’t the best for retention.
But one thing that I haven’t seen is the poor recruitment strategy.
The police are aiming for University grads by making having a degree the best way to join. Yes you can join without a degree but not only are you on a longer probation plus training period (3 years for non degree holders 2 for degree holders), you also have to do more entrance exams. But guess what? People laden with debt after university would rather a wage that actually covers this.
Perhaps easing entrance standards and aiming for working class/ ex forces would improve recruitment.
So where are all the rapists, paedos and murderers finding their employment is the more pressing issue.
Yeah, well if you hire anyone and everyone, most of those people will get what they came for and go off to better things. There’s no big reward for long service, and the wages are pretty bad and the job is very difficult with horrific hours…
Where’s the benefit? Unless it’s your dream job, I can’t see why people joining now would stay there long-term.
Alongside the numerous controversies and the public’s wavering belief in the policing system, it makes the job even harder than it already is.
Maybe morale would improve if they were allowed to catch violent criminals who are put away for a decent period of time, rather that the derisory sentences currently been handed down or being let off!
Instead they have to spend their time on someone because someone else was offended by a reddit post.
Weird how people don’t want to be the private militia of a government that’s fucking them over too, innit
Is anyone surprised? It’s like being spat in the face and asking for seconds.
Shit from all sides
The public we try and serve hate us
The press hate us
The politicians hate us
Not hard to question what’s the point