Putin will eigentlich keinen Krieg mit der NATO, weil „Russland schnell verlieren wird“, sagt der britische Militärchef
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Putin will eigentlich keinen Krieg mit der NATO, weil „Russland schnell verlieren wird“, sagt der britische Militärchef
by 4920185
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This is like calling the sky blue
Here we go Nato with the “same intel” as russia in the beginning. It will be quick, sure 👍 drop nukes its quick mesmo😎
The difficulty here is that everyone will lose, and lose quickly, because Putin is a mafioso crime lord with nukes, and if he can’t have it, nobody can.
This is why his *first* resort is threaten nuclear attacks. Of course he has no intention of winning a war against NATO.
We also said the same thing about Ukraine : he won’t invade because it’s illogical.
Assuming Putin will act based on what is rational is a dangerous gamble. He believes his own propaganda.
Meanwhile, the west cant even produce enough criise missiles to offset north korea.
Also whenever a UK goverment official speaks, im inclined to beloeve the opposite.
Russia will not be defeated by conventional weapons. Their industrial capacity is 7x the entirety of NATO. North Korea has factories working day and night to keep making weapons for them. The only outcome of this type of provocative rhetoric is escalation to nuclear. The geriatric people at the top think it’s still the 90s… they think 2-3 bn casualties are collateral damage, and also quite useful if it stops Trump in 2024. But keep drinking the propaganda lmfao
Obviously Putin would get annihilated if he went toe to toe with NATO. What Putin is trying to do is sow division within NATO, and then maybe test it on a smaller NATO country. Don’t need to fight NATO if NATO isn’t willing to fight. When you get people like Trump giving him the green light to raid any country that doesn’t meet their NATO budget requirements, you can see the start of this division. Putin sees this as well and will push the limits until he meets resistance.
Anyone who thinks Putin is going to stop on his own is foolish. Russian economy is on a war footing and will continue their conquests until they meet a kinetic resistance. Putin has a chip on his shoulder and is going to keep his war machine moving until it hits a brick wall. So far that brick wall is the defiant Ukrainians. Give them ammo.
As it stands now, Russia couldn’t even take Finland or Poland, let alone any of the big members of NATO.
Russia is sure wasting a lot of their own men in Ukraine.
Then what’s the reason of all the fear mongering?
Russia are stuck in the East and all NATO are doing is supplying Ukraine, of course he doesn’t want a war.
i legit thought this was Lord Admiral Hood smh wrong sub lol
**Everyone** will lose, and lose quickly.
Yup, all this talk of a new world war is just absurd. Russia has been pushed right back to its border across a huge chunk of Ukraine, and Ukraine was supposed to be the easy cake-walk that would fold in a few weeks. They’re holding the line with 1980 hand-me-downs and even starting to strike into Russia.
If NATO were to get properly involved I have no doubt in my mind Russia would quickly experience what Iraq went through in the 1990s, and they couldn’t do much more to stop it than Iraq could. It would be costly in terms of material losses for NATO but I doubt it would even be that bloody for us. Whereas I think Russian society would genuinely start to unravel after a few months without a functioning economy and infrastructure being constantly blown to bits by a swarm of cruise missiles.
Russia’s *only* realistic option is the threat nuclear apocalypse. That’s it, that’s all they have. If anything I think a big part of what is holding NATO back is not the threat of nuclear response from Russia, but the fear of Russia splintering when it collapses and all those warheads falling into the hands of warlords and mercenaries.
I remember a lot of these same people saying he would never invade Ukraine.
They can’t even beat Ukraine with minimal old NATO gear.
Well that’s why he’s not attacking NATO head on but trying to gut it by using morons like Trump and American Republicans.
Yes, but threatening war costs him nothing and it freezes sane leaders everywhere.
And we haven’t seen anything yet. If the West really starts to take more aggressive measures to help Ukraine, be prepared for the REAL show: missiles standing up in launchers, bombers loaded with long-range nukes, silo doors open, full nuclear preparedness conditions, etc. He can, and likely will, do everything short of actually pushing the red button.
If we think he’s threatening now, wait until he’s really worried about losing Ukraine.
Not if he ends the world in a nuclear holocaust which a small horrible man like him would probably do if it meant lot living with shame.
Bullies usually try to avoid the kid who can fight back.
Brah, that’s an overstatement. Atm Russia can’t even take Russia. 😅
Everyone knows that even Putin himself and he admitted it. Thats why Putin is threatening with a nuclear war as he knows Russia has no chance in conventional war.
Lose needs to be defined. Russia will be expelled from whatever NATO territory they invade. Russia will not itself be invaded. The minute it feels its territorial sovereignty is impugned appropriately, it may very well launch nukes.
Who cares what both says. Russia is not enough strong for NATO and NATO aren’t worried even closely by Russia.
Sign a Treaty, no NATO in Ukraine, the war will be over. That’s all Putin wants. Ukraine is more corrupt than Russia ever will be.
Is there any chance that Russia has played a false hand in Ukraine, only using old weapons and troops it doesn’t care about? Meaning: do they have better stuff in reserve for use against NATO? Because if not, they’d be militarily embarrassed by NATO.
Yeah… you guys said basically the same thing about Iraq and Afghanistan too tho, the latter of which lasted 20 years, and the Taliban is currently in control of the region.
Well, yeah….. obvious really.
It’s like you’ve been fighting for 9 rounds and you are pretty tired. And then a completely energized & rested dude jumps in the ring to help out your opponent. What are your chances here? Yeah you might last another round at best and then you would go down.
I think at this point Poland+Finland (especially Finland – those are bad motherfuckers) could be near Moscow by Tuesday morning.
Russia can kind of pride itself in making NATO a thing in the first place.
Unprecedented firepower and collaboration against one singular superpower.
They’re really THE high school bully
When in castle surrounded by enemies and out of supplies, shout- Do you surrender or not!
Putin knows and seems like he doesn’t give a fuck. If he’s going out, So does the world.
Hopefully the people with their finger on the button know better
That’s why he wants as much division in the west as possible. And Republicans are falling for it like the chumps they are.
2nd, maybe equal most powerful military in Ukraine doesn’t want to fight the world’s strongest military alliance in history.
Big news!
Russia would be obliterated. Putin might rattle his nuclear sabre but any use of these weapons would be suicide and Putin is way too comfortable being the richest man in the world living his life of luxury. That’s the one thing that saves us all. Money and power. Lunatics like Putin enjoy living life with both.
Russia doesn’t want a war with NATO as much as NATO doesn’t want a war with Russia. But down the line, Russia is more prepared if such a scenario happens, what about NATOM
Ah we’re at the shit-talking part of the war, cool, cool.