“Some 74 per cent of respondents have a higher education, with 57 per cent having a degree at the level of master, specialist or doctorate.”
Is there a reason those numbers are that high?
For references, 47% of Irish adults have a tertiary qualification and that’s one of the highest rates in the OECD.
Anyone who remembers the Balkan refugees doing everything they could to stay here after that war should have seen this coming.
Considering I don’t see how the war would end, I’m not surprised.
Welcome lads 🤝
I for one welcome our tall, blonde overlords.
Another weirdo downvote, thanks!
The HSE better be prepped for plenty of traumatised veterans down the line.
They’re right too. I would never go living beside psycho Putin. It’s fucking terrifying to think about chilling in your home, settling down to watch telly with your family, and a missile suddenly hits your home. That’s tragic. I don’t think some people realise how lucky we are to be so safe here from such madness.
And yes I know Ukraine is huge and the chances of the above happening are slim, but still
They don’t have leave to stay once the war is over
It was previously verboten to point out this very obvious fact
Their country was brutally invaded, twice in the last 19 years, by Russia and is still partly under occupation with no end in sight so it’s hardly surprising that those here aren’t looking beyond the reality of that right now. That’s before even considering the billions of dollars worth of damage done to the country and decades of reconstruction needed. Plus, for all its desires to be a modern European country it’s journey to be that is not well advanced so seeing Ireland as extract that one can hardly blame these people of wanting to stay.
Anyone who uses this as some sort of anti-immigrant “I told you so” is clearly an ignorant idiot without an ounce of humanity or understanding in their body.
Shur why wouldn’t they?!
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Someone should explain to them that that’s not how that works. If Ukraine wins or there’s a peace treaty then their refugee status is over and they no longer have a right to be here.
Refugees are accepted with the understanding that they’re taking refuge and not moving permanently.
The comments by ministers that they’d all be going home as soon as the war was over was based on thin air. People are coming here and putting down roots of one sort or another – their children are in school, they are integrating into communities, people are entering relationships. Plus, even if the war ended tomorrow – this was the second invasion of Ukraine by Russia in recent years. I’d be reluctant to go back. And tbh, if I had to flee Ireland tomorrow for one reason or another, and I love my country, but I lived in a country that was objectively more developed than back home even before the costs of war… would I be rushing back when it was all over? Would you?
If housing wasn’t such a big issue, the idea of bringing in a large population of young people to help drive our economy and prosperity would be absolutely welcomed. I think the Ukrainian’s are fitting in here just like other communities of people who came en masse when the EU expanded, like the Poles.
In the context of housing and pressures on social services, I think this will create friction. I wish it wouldn’t, and I hope Ukrainians don’t end up being scapegoated for what are ultimately the failures of governments in Ireland to deliver what we deserve for the taxes we pay.
Is that surprising? They have lives here now. Their home looks like it will be a state of war for many years to come.
Thank fuck. We’re ugly as sin.
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I welcome them. Any Ukrainians I’ve met have been lovely people who will fit in well.
All the people giving out about the stress it may place on our psychiatric services should blame our government for the shitty state they’ve allowed it to get into.
These people have had to give up everything they’ve ever worked for. I hope the ones who stay find peace and happiness.
Any Ukrainians who read this, please know I, for one, welcome you. Rebuild your lives and be happy.
can you blame them? Ukraines future looks bleak even if they win the war
Not how that works lads
I wonder how many came with the 4 legged pointy symbol.
Ukrainians are very intelligent people in my experience and seem to have a nack for complex technology. They can be big contributors for sure.
We need to make sure we are putting everything in place to properly integrate them and make sure they are working contributing members of our society.
That war isn’t going anywhere soon. I don’t blame them for not wanting to return home.
I wonder how many came with the 4 legged pointy symbol.
Alot of people here I guess are too young to remember the Soviet union and the cold war.
Russian propaganda skews to the worst tropes we have about the Brits. “Eire isn’t a real country” “when are you rejoining the UK” and “5th largest economy on earth of course the brexit border will go where it belongs in Eire”
But worse much worse, genocidal worse.
When the USSR collapsed Ukraine and Poland had similar sized economies, today Poland’s is 4 X the size of Ukraine’s.
The difference? Poland was welcomed into the EU and NATO, Ukraine was not.
As Irish people we should acknowledge the massive benefit the EU has bequeathed to us, the fraternity we should have to Ukranians who want the rights we take for granted, the easy pass into the EU, despite being a 2nd world country with a civil war on our island in contrast to Ukraine’s supposed “corruption”
The reality is Ukraine has been kept out to placate Russia’s notions of grandeur and a “sphere of influence”
A “sphere of influence” which fortunately nobody gives to Britian over us. We should acknowledge that difference and demand similar respect for Ukraine.
Their rights with respect to Russia are our rights with respect to Britian.
One cannot exist without the other.
It boils my piss when people talk down to Ukranians as if we Irish weren’t absolute cowboys for the longest time.
We the West owe the Ukranians for having turned our backs on them, leaving them to Russia’s “sphere of influence” in the complete opposite to the huge political support we have received from the US and EU.
Our brexit experience and the sea border outcome shows just how privileged we are in comparison.
If we let Russia undo the cold war, to brutalize Ukraine back into its grasp, we fail in our obligation to our own history and to the necessity to uphold the rules based order that has lifted our country out of the dirt.
Housing refugees is the least we can do, we should be sending anti armour and anti air systems too.
I promise you there’s no “neutral” point between Bucha and decent life worth having..
Well that was obvious. The government saying it’s temporary was laughable and only to keep people from hating. They won’t be forced to go back.
I’d say most are in a honeymoon phase with Ireland. Once the benefits end it, I think reality will hit. They may go to Poland or Germany, as its easier for them to learn the language there.
Excellent. Good people that can integrate well and won’t cause any social problems in the future.
They’re not going anywhere, which is fair enough.
We should be looking for ways to fast track citizenship. Some of them are here years and the towns they came from simply no longer exist.
Give them citizenship, see is there a way of giving them some equivalent of springboard courses to make sure they have the qualifications they claim they have and let them build lives here.
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Hmm…I guess I kind of take it as a compliment..
“Some 74 per cent of respondents have a higher education, with 57 per cent having a degree at the level of master, specialist or doctorate.”
Is there a reason those numbers are that high?
For references, 47% of Irish adults have a tertiary qualification and that’s one of the highest rates in the OECD.
Anyone who remembers the Balkan refugees doing everything they could to stay here after that war should have seen this coming.
Considering I don’t see how the war would end, I’m not surprised.
Welcome lads 🤝
I for one welcome our tall, blonde overlords.
Another weirdo downvote, thanks!
The HSE better be prepped for plenty of traumatised veterans down the line.
They’re right too. I would never go living beside psycho Putin. It’s fucking terrifying to think about chilling in your home, settling down to watch telly with your family, and a missile suddenly hits your home. That’s tragic. I don’t think some people realise how lucky we are to be so safe here from such madness.
And yes I know Ukraine is huge and the chances of the above happening are slim, but still
They don’t have leave to stay once the war is over
It was previously verboten to point out this very obvious fact
Their country was brutally invaded, twice in the last 19 years, by Russia and is still partly under occupation with no end in sight so it’s hardly surprising that those here aren’t looking beyond the reality of that right now. That’s before even considering the billions of dollars worth of damage done to the country and decades of reconstruction needed. Plus, for all its desires to be a modern European country it’s journey to be that is not well advanced so seeing Ireland as extract that one can hardly blame these people of wanting to stay.
Anyone who uses this as some sort of anti-immigrant “I told you so” is clearly an ignorant idiot without an ounce of humanity or understanding in their body.
Shur why wouldn’t they?!
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Someone should explain to them that that’s not how that works. If Ukraine wins or there’s a peace treaty then their refugee status is over and they no longer have a right to be here.
Refugees are accepted with the understanding that they’re taking refuge and not moving permanently.
The comments by ministers that they’d all be going home as soon as the war was over was based on thin air. People are coming here and putting down roots of one sort or another – their children are in school, they are integrating into communities, people are entering relationships. Plus, even if the war ended tomorrow – this was the second invasion of Ukraine by Russia in recent years. I’d be reluctant to go back. And tbh, if I had to flee Ireland tomorrow for one reason or another, and I love my country, but I lived in a country that was objectively more developed than back home even before the costs of war… would I be rushing back when it was all over? Would you?
If housing wasn’t such a big issue, the idea of bringing in a large population of young people to help drive our economy and prosperity would be absolutely welcomed. I think the Ukrainian’s are fitting in here just like other communities of people who came en masse when the EU expanded, like the Poles.
In the context of housing and pressures on social services, I think this will create friction. I wish it wouldn’t, and I hope Ukrainians don’t end up being scapegoated for what are ultimately the failures of governments in Ireland to deliver what we deserve for the taxes we pay.
Is that surprising? They have lives here now. Their home looks like it will be a state of war for many years to come.
Thank fuck. We’re ugly as sin.
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I welcome them. Any Ukrainians I’ve met have been lovely people who will fit in well.
All the people giving out about the stress it may place on our psychiatric services should blame our government for the shitty state they’ve allowed it to get into.
These people have had to give up everything they’ve ever worked for. I hope the ones who stay find peace and happiness.
Any Ukrainians who read this, please know I, for one, welcome you. Rebuild your lives and be happy.
can you blame them? Ukraines future looks bleak even if they win the war
Not how that works lads
I wonder how many came with the 4 legged pointy symbol.
Ukrainians are very intelligent people in my experience and seem to have a nack for complex technology. They can be big contributors for sure.
We need to make sure we are putting everything in place to properly integrate them and make sure they are working contributing members of our society.
That war isn’t going anywhere soon. I don’t blame them for not wanting to return home.
I wonder how many came with the 4 legged pointy symbol.
Alot of people here I guess are too young to remember the Soviet union and the cold war.
Russian propaganda skews to the worst tropes we have about the Brits. “Eire isn’t a real country” “when are you rejoining the UK” and “5th largest economy on earth of course the brexit border will go where it belongs in Eire”
But worse much worse, genocidal worse.
When the USSR collapsed Ukraine and Poland had similar sized economies, today Poland’s is 4 X the size of Ukraine’s.
The difference? Poland was welcomed into the EU and NATO, Ukraine was not.
As Irish people we should acknowledge the massive benefit the EU has bequeathed to us, the fraternity we should have to Ukranians who want the rights we take for granted, the easy pass into the EU, despite being a 2nd world country with a civil war on our island in contrast to Ukraine’s supposed “corruption”
The reality is Ukraine has been kept out to placate Russia’s notions of grandeur and a “sphere of influence”
A “sphere of influence” which fortunately nobody gives to Britian over us. We should acknowledge that difference and demand similar respect for Ukraine.
Their rights with respect to Russia are our rights with respect to Britian.
One cannot exist without the other.
It boils my piss when people talk down to Ukranians as if we Irish weren’t absolute cowboys for the longest time.
We the West owe the Ukranians for having turned our backs on them, leaving them to Russia’s “sphere of influence” in the complete opposite to the huge political support we have received from the US and EU.
Our brexit experience and the sea border outcome shows just how privileged we are in comparison.
If we let Russia undo the cold war, to brutalize Ukraine back into its grasp, we fail in our obligation to our own history and to the necessity to uphold the rules based order that has lifted our country out of the dirt.
Housing refugees is the least we can do, we should be sending anti armour and anti air systems too.
I promise you there’s no “neutral” point between Bucha and decent life worth having..
Well that was obvious. The government saying it’s temporary was laughable and only to keep people from hating. They won’t be forced to go back.
I’d say most are in a honeymoon phase with Ireland. Once the benefits end it, I think reality will hit. They may go to Poland or Germany, as its easier for them to learn the language there.
Excellent. Good people that can integrate well and won’t cause any social problems in the future.
They’re not going anywhere, which is fair enough.
We should be looking for ways to fast track citizenship. Some of them are here years and the towns they came from simply no longer exist.
Give them citizenship, see is there a way of giving them some equivalent of springboard courses to make sure they have the qualifications they claim they have and let them build lives here.