There is barely and freedom and Germany isn’t a democracy
I would like to see an example of “mysogynistic hate speech” that prompted a visit from the police.
My worry is that the definition is much wider because the recipient is a woman, that if it had been a man. But since there are no examples, we’re left guessing.
While the didn’t disclose any examples of ‘hate speech’ from the people who were raided this week, they reference a court decision from 2020:
>As the operator of the internet forum <…>, the defendant wrote and published various posts by himself and others in which he disparaged women in a particular way, denied them a right as equal personalities in the state community and reduced them to their ability to reproduce.
>In detail, these are the following contributions:
>”What are women made for? For reproduction! The woman is closer to the animals, the man to the heavenly beings.”
>”Men are human beings in the true sense of the word. Women participate in being human, but they do not represent human beings. You can also put it more crudely like this: Women are second-class human beings. – Or: women are inferior human beings.”
>”From the above, we can conclude that the man is the – actual – human being; the woman participates in humanity, but does not represent the human being. Her humanity is therefore inauthentic. It sustains (hu)man(ity), but does not give him (it) a purpose.
>In the article “Das Gift der Gynokratie: “Mutti zerstört Vaters’ Land”” published on 11 September 2016, the defendant once again calls for the abolition of “women’s (females’) suffrage”.
>”Parasitism has a gender”. According to his generalised depiction, women limit themselves to spending the money that men earn.
>On 19 May 2016, the defendant published the post “Praise be for what makes us hard” in the above-mentioned forum under the abbreviation A. In the last section of this post, he reports on the dominance of “women in the public sector and in the school and education system”. For him, the numerical predominance of women in this spectrum of work and professions is a sign of a spiritual and moral deficiency. He compares the high number of women in these areas, in his opinion, to mud worms in a pond. Through this equating approach, the accused disparages women in a special way.
Translated with DeepL (free version)
He was originally fined €550 for that.
Never heard of feminists who said “kill all men” being raided
>Communications that are considered illegal include posts in which women are slandered and insulted in a sexualized manner, or publicly encouraged to send nude photos. The authorities also flagged posts that advocated rape or sexual assault or that distributed videos of torture or killing.
>The raids concentrated on suspects who had set their sights on well-known women like female politicians – often the target of misogynistic hatred online. Investigators also sought out suspects who have threatened women not in the public eye.
>Despite the law, online posts that degrade or threaten women often go unpunished, and many women say they avoid public attention fearing online attacks.
>Interior Minister Faeser encouraged women to report all incidents in order to bring those responsible to justice.
>“When the police show up at the door, it is a very effective signal: for the perpetrators who have felt safe in supposed anonymity, but especially for the affected women,” Faeser said.
They want total control.
Wait, they raided the houses of suspects, but detained nobody, meaning that they raided innocent people or people who committed a crime so minor that it didn’t even warrant detaining them???
Raiding people for posting online something as abstract as “misogynistic hate speech” is already an overuse of power by the state, even if they were guilty (there’s no need to raid someone’s property when they’re only suspected of posting non-violent stuff online).
I am all against misogyny, but you can’t just raid people who aren’t even guilty, because you want to score some political points.
i’m not gonna defend the posts themselves but getting raided by cops because you told someone online they’re subhuman is pretty fucked up
and then people are acting surprised when afd gets more and more votes, like, wtf germany? orwell was not writing a manual?
How can you have law like this to protect women and Islam and the same time.
He we go again, Germany… By the time they come for you, there will be no one left to care …
Trying to compete with Russia, China and the UK in the “illiberal police state” competition
This is spicy. I feel like hate speech is really harmful and needs to be stopped, but arresting people for saying stuff online? That feels like it’s going too far. We need to find another way to deal with it
Garbage people with garbage views
I don’t get it. What is police going to do about these people? Is writing such stuff online an actual crime in Germany?
I ask because It says no one was detained?
>“Today’s day of action makes it clear: we consciously go into the spaces of hate, identify acts and perpetrators, take them out of anonymity and bring them to accountability.”
What accountability are they talking about here?
Me is confused xD
Anywho, closing certain forums, websites or just raiding these people’s homes will not get rid of that sort of “thinking” from occuring. At best you will create an environment of fear where they will “exist” but just be silent.
Focus should be on the reasons as to why these sort of thoughts manifest in the first place and work on that.
Woke Gestapo at its finest.
Thank god I live in a free country.
All the anti-german bots with 1k Karma, who flood these sub to promote afd (and on other comments russia) .. please russian trollfarm, make it less obvious, yes?
You can see these under so many /r/europe posts
They might as well raid every house or building in the intire world
ITT: incel energy lol
Are “your mom’s fat” jokes on reddit hate speech? Asking for a friend
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But muslim rapists just go free…
So muslim imams are in prison?
There is barely and freedom and Germany isn’t a democracy
I would like to see an example of “mysogynistic hate speech” that prompted a visit from the police.
My worry is that the definition is much wider because the recipient is a woman, that if it had been a man. But since there are no examples, we’re left guessing.
While the didn’t disclose any examples of ‘hate speech’ from the people who were raided this week, they reference a court decision from 2020:
>As the operator of the internet forum <…>, the defendant wrote and published various posts by himself and others in which he disparaged women in a particular way, denied them a right as equal personalities in the state community and reduced them to their ability to reproduce.
>In detail, these are the following contributions:
>”What are women made for? For reproduction! The woman is closer to the animals, the man to the heavenly beings.”
>”Men are human beings in the true sense of the word. Women participate in being human, but they do not represent human beings. You can also put it more crudely like this: Women are second-class human beings. – Or: women are inferior human beings.”
>”From the above, we can conclude that the man is the – actual – human being; the woman participates in humanity, but does not represent the human being. Her humanity is therefore inauthentic. It sustains (hu)man(ity), but does not give him (it) a purpose.
>In the article “Das Gift der Gynokratie: “Mutti zerstört Vaters’ Land”” published on 11 September 2016, the defendant once again calls for the abolition of “women’s (females’) suffrage”.
>”Parasitism has a gender”. According to his generalised depiction, women limit themselves to spending the money that men earn.
>On 19 May 2016, the defendant published the post “Praise be for what makes us hard” in the above-mentioned forum under the abbreviation A. In the last section of this post, he reports on the dominance of “women in the public sector and in the school and education system”. For him, the numerical predominance of women in this spectrum of work and professions is a sign of a spiritual and moral deficiency. He compares the high number of women in these areas, in his opinion, to mud worms in a pond. Through this equating approach, the accused disparages women in a special way.
Translated with DeepL (free version)
He was originally fined €550 for that.
Never heard of feminists who said “kill all men” being raided
>Communications that are considered illegal include posts in which women are slandered and insulted in a sexualized manner, or publicly encouraged to send nude photos. The authorities also flagged posts that advocated rape or sexual assault or that distributed videos of torture or killing.
>The raids concentrated on suspects who had set their sights on well-known women like female politicians – often the target of misogynistic hatred online. Investigators also sought out suspects who have threatened women not in the public eye.
>Despite the law, online posts that degrade or threaten women often go unpunished, and many women say they avoid public attention fearing online attacks.
>Interior Minister Faeser encouraged women to report all incidents in order to bring those responsible to justice.
>“When the police show up at the door, it is a very effective signal: for the perpetrators who have felt safe in supposed anonymity, but especially for the affected women,” Faeser said.
They want total control.
Wait, they raided the houses of suspects, but detained nobody, meaning that they raided innocent people or people who committed a crime so minor that it didn’t even warrant detaining them???
Raiding people for posting online something as abstract as “misogynistic hate speech” is already an overuse of power by the state, even if they were guilty (there’s no need to raid someone’s property when they’re only suspected of posting non-violent stuff online).
I am all against misogyny, but you can’t just raid people who aren’t even guilty, because you want to score some political points.
i’m not gonna defend the posts themselves but getting raided by cops because you told someone online they’re subhuman is pretty fucked up
and then people are acting surprised when afd gets more and more votes, like, wtf germany? orwell was not writing a manual?
How can you have law like this to protect women and Islam and the same time.
He we go again, Germany… By the time they come for you, there will be no one left to care …
Trying to compete with Russia, China and the UK in the “illiberal police state” competition
This is spicy. I feel like hate speech is really harmful and needs to be stopped, but arresting people for saying stuff online? That feels like it’s going too far. We need to find another way to deal with it
Garbage people with garbage views
I don’t get it. What is police going to do about these people? Is writing such stuff online an actual crime in Germany?
I ask because It says no one was detained?
>“Today’s day of action makes it clear: we consciously go into the spaces of hate, identify acts and perpetrators, take them out of anonymity and bring them to accountability.”
What accountability are they talking about here?
Me is confused xD
Anywho, closing certain forums, websites or just raiding these people’s homes will not get rid of that sort of “thinking” from occuring. At best you will create an environment of fear where they will “exist” but just be silent.
Focus should be on the reasons as to why these sort of thoughts manifest in the first place and work on that.
Woke Gestapo at its finest.
Thank god I live in a free country.
All the anti-german bots with 1k Karma, who flood these sub to promote afd (and on other comments russia) .. please russian trollfarm, make it less obvious, yes?
You can see these under so many /r/europe posts
They might as well raid every house or building in the intire world
ITT: incel energy lol
Are “your mom’s fat” jokes on reddit hate speech? Asking for a friend