Bit of a kick in the teeth for current government if both are defeated. Over 23 million spent on this referendum.
As long as we don’t have to suffer it again.
Ultimately it’s not enough for every party and every charity to endorse something if they don’t then actually do some work to promote it. And one interview is not work. Some parties hardly put up a single sign.
If you don’t really give a shit about the outcome why should anyone else.
Darkly hilarious that the hit will mainly be taken by parties that literally couldnt give a shit about the whole issue. Why did they even bother lmao
I didn’t vote on this, simply because it wasn’t clear what I was voting for, aside from some vague “this is good for gender equality and for families”
If the existing wording wasn’t hurting anyone and we hear of how the new wording could be abused by some, why change it?
Hopefully this’ll shut the eejits up on Social Media calling for Election Fraud because there was no Exit Polls.
They really do be living in their own wee world at times.
I was never voting yes on care the moment I saw the government rejected the citizens assembly recommended wording and went with a milquetoast noncommittal BS wording. Deserved loss
I’m genuinely struggling to think of an Irish government blowing on open goal as big as this one. Like when these referendums were first even suggested, it just seemed a formality, it was only being voted on because we had to. There’s no way they can dress this up or pass the buck – it’s just sheer incomptence.
Just a thought. Why should the government propose referendum texts?
Should we move to something where the citizens assemblies decide the texts with legal advice and they are put to the public there and then.
The problem with the system seems to be that the government move the referendums. Maybe a more direct approach like in Switzerland is better.
Note: I’m not sure how that works there in actually drafting the texts.
Was there not an exit poll for previous referendums?
It’s interesting how it all played out like at the start it looked like an easy Yes/Yes but the uncertainty as to what people were voting for and the ambiguity of the meaning of strive in the care bill really flipped it.
I was talking to alot of people and they said they where yes/yes last week but after reading it more they quickly changed to a yes/no or no/no, Im pretty sure this will sum up the government has a simple job and some how fuck it up and just cost the exchequer money.
hahahaha i cant wait for the tears to start pouring out from this government
Early days but I think the Dublin based political/ NGO axis are so out of touch, they didn’t realise the public saw this as a virtue signalling nothing and either stayed home or voted no. What a waste of time and money. Will spook the govt and probably delays the general election to as late as possible
Unsurprising considering the turnout was horrid. Most Gen Z ppl I asked weren’t even registered and everyone else was just confused.
I think they really failed to communicate the effects that a yes or no vote would have. I heard multiple people voting no because they were afraid it would have the potential effect their marital tax credits and carer allowance if they voted yes.
Does anyone know what this referendum and the implications of a yes vote were ?
😂😂 I’ve no idea and can’t seem to find out.
Everyone just voted no out of distrust which I don’t blame them.
If only the government didn’t reject the citizen assembly and all party Oireachtas committee, this wouldn’t be a complete waste of time and money. That’s what you get for trying to be undemocratic
It will be interesting to see if there will be a pattern depending on the areas.
I still don’t understand it fully tbh
Lads i don’t even know what it was about 😂
I’m interested to see the corresponding turnout figures for each area as well, it looks like the No vote actually bothered to mobilise people better, however accurate their claims may have been.
What an embarrassing result for the government. They genuinely expected this to be a formality. That is some serious incompetence.
On another note, the far right celebrating this like it’s a huge victory for them is embarrassing.
Can somebody please tell me if it is common for the questions to not be on the ballet? I’ve voted in several referendum (I’m 36) and I don’t remember. I had to Google the questions because the pollers didn’t even seem sure which ballet was which. CARE and FAMILY. Like which is feckin which?!
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Bit of a kick in the teeth for current government if both are defeated. Over 23 million spent on this referendum.
As long as we don’t have to suffer it again.
Ultimately it’s not enough for every party and every charity to endorse something if they don’t then actually do some work to promote it. And one interview is not work. Some parties hardly put up a single sign.
If you don’t really give a shit about the outcome why should anyone else.
Darkly hilarious that the hit will mainly be taken by parties that literally couldnt give a shit about the whole issue. Why did they even bother lmao
I didn’t vote on this, simply because it wasn’t clear what I was voting for, aside from some vague “this is good for gender equality and for families”
If the existing wording wasn’t hurting anyone and we hear of how the new wording could be abused by some, why change it?
Hopefully this’ll shut the eejits up on Social Media calling for Election Fraud because there was no Exit Polls.
They really do be living in their own wee world at times.
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I was never voting yes on care the moment I saw the government rejected the citizens assembly recommended wording and went with a milquetoast noncommittal BS wording. Deserved loss
I’m genuinely struggling to think of an Irish government blowing on open goal as big as this one. Like when these referendums were first even suggested, it just seemed a formality, it was only being voted on because we had to. There’s no way they can dress this up or pass the buck – it’s just sheer incomptence.
Just a thought. Why should the government propose referendum texts?
Should we move to something where the citizens assemblies decide the texts with legal advice and they are put to the public there and then.
The problem with the system seems to be that the government move the referendums. Maybe a more direct approach like in Switzerland is better.
Note: I’m not sure how that works there in actually drafting the texts.
Was there not an exit poll for previous referendums?
It’s interesting how it all played out like at the start it looked like an easy Yes/Yes but the uncertainty as to what people were voting for and the ambiguity of the meaning of strive in the care bill really flipped it.
I was talking to alot of people and they said they where yes/yes last week but after reading it more they quickly changed to a yes/no or no/no, Im pretty sure this will sum up the government has a simple job and some how fuck it up and just cost the exchequer money.
hahahaha i cant wait for the tears to start pouring out from this government
Early days but I think the Dublin based political/ NGO axis are so out of touch, they didn’t realise the public saw this as a virtue signalling nothing and either stayed home or voted no. What a waste of time and money. Will spook the govt and probably delays the general election to as late as possible
Unsurprising considering the turnout was horrid. Most Gen Z ppl I asked weren’t even registered and everyone else was just confused.
I think they really failed to communicate the effects that a yes or no vote would have. I heard multiple people voting no because they were afraid it would have the potential effect their marital tax credits and carer allowance if they voted yes.
Does anyone know what this referendum and the implications of a yes vote were ?
😂😂 I’ve no idea and can’t seem to find out.
Everyone just voted no out of distrust which I don’t blame them.
If only the government didn’t reject the citizen assembly and all party Oireachtas committee, this wouldn’t be a complete waste of time and money. That’s what you get for trying to be undemocratic
It will be interesting to see if there will be a pattern depending on the areas.
I still don’t understand it fully tbh
Lads i don’t even know what it was about 😂
I’m interested to see the corresponding turnout figures for each area as well, it looks like the No vote actually bothered to mobilise people better, however accurate their claims may have been.
What an embarrassing result for the government. They genuinely expected this to be a formality. That is some serious incompetence.
On another note, the far right celebrating this like it’s a huge victory for them is embarrassing.
Can somebody please tell me if it is common for the questions to not be on the ballet? I’ve voted in several referendum (I’m 36) and I don’t remember. I had to Google the questions because the pollers didn’t even seem sure which ballet was which. CARE and FAMILY. Like which is feckin which?!
Very surprised with the family one
Ireland:
https://preview.redd.it/7gqcioa93bnc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=279e34d83d66684ee7153fa8e5b46adbffe516fa
87% no on the family one??? Jaysis