Ukraine war: Is Europe doing enough to help against Russia?

by mclayson

24 comments
  1. Not enough if they’re trying to stop Russian aggression

  2. In a word, no. All should have been ramping up weapons and ammo production capacity since day 1.

  3. Absolutely not, Macron is trying but most of the other EU leaders are either bought by Ruzzia or too cowardly to give meaningful help to Ukraine.

    Let’s be clear Putin is not nuking anything.

  4. Think it’s slowly dawning on them…this shit is real and at their back door…maybe this why USA has started dragging the chain..to get them to wake up and crank up…..

  5. Not even close, some countries have done some decent things but ifs been too few and far between.

  6. Fuck no.

    Taurus, ammunition, Gripen and non combat troops to free up Ukranians to go fight.

    EU troops could demine, control the border and if a few Russians get blown up when EU guys “fire back” well that’s just “self defence” doncha know

  7. No, but with the Americans drifting towards isolationism there will be nobody else doing something.

    Europe has to step up and at the same time we need to show the Americans that it will have consequences to them as well when they turn their back on Europe.

  8. Poorer states are really passive, like Spain or Portugal. But I cant see how they could do more 🤷‍♂️
    On the other hand, states in the east, like Estland or Poland, do a lot of help, even though they are not much more wealthy then spain. I guess this is a dictance-near-symptomatic. But it important to say, that the baltic’s, Denmark or Rumania are empty their storages for the UA. And they are constantly working politically for more support.

    Germany, or better to say Olaf Scholz, always tell, that germany is the biggest supporter after the USA. This is not true in two ways.
    First, a lot if the billions of the support-money is although permitted but not spend yet, like as weapons or ammo.
    After TWO Years of war, there was the start if building a ammo production, it will be ready to produce in two years. We germans know: Lets say four.
    So germany is very very slow by implement the action, they pretend to do „somehow“.

    Second: The ratio between the support and the GDP is very poor. Like I said, others give everything they had. Scholz turn ever decision 10 times back and forth. Leopards cant be deliver, no, this will lead directly into a third world war. No No No No.. then, all over the sudden: Ok, yes.
    8 Month, enough time for the RuSSians, to prepare very well for the counterattack. Till today, Scholz send 18 Leopards. 🤦 RuSSia produce’s constantly their tanks. One batch of 18 Leopards and till today no one tank more.

    In a nutshell: Scholz will be a historical figure, which will be accused to delay every worthy action, money and resilience, which strengthens Putin, make germany to the weak spot. This has cost a lot of life’s, soldiers, womens, kids, elders. Scholz is a big problem. The EU and NATO has to take the action and force the let Scholz the sit on bench. The german Bundeswehr has nothing left, anyway.

    Compare Germany with the Brits, Estland, Finnland and the Czech… they have the nuts you need to have for winning a war against a totally ill hitler like Putin.

  9. No. We’ve been faffing around for two years, hoping against hope that the problem will go away eventually. What’s needed is more bold and decisive leadership.

  10. Maybe some of the smaller countries, but that’s not enough since Ukraine is massive . There should be a GDP goal or something for European countries, like the 2% on defence for NATO membership. 

  11. Nope. We all should take a page out of denmarks book.

    What’s the main purpose of our European militaries? To defend Europe against any aggressor. Who could that be other than russia? Right… nobody. So… get the stuff we built to thwart russian ambitions to where it can do that – Ukraine.

    …all while we ramp up production and show russia what gdp of 16 trillion Euro can do to a motherfucker.

  12. No. Particularly, the countries with significant industrial capacity should have nationalised and militarised their production for arms. In addition, they should have at least quadrupled their defence budgets, and immediately introduced conscription, these coffee sipping apathetic euros are sitting in cafes across Europe, thinking that the bells tolling are not for them.

    There are notable exceptions such as Lithuania and Estonia but I’m deeply disappointed in Germany, France and Italy for a start.

  13. I hope everyone understands that’s a rhetorical question, wether intended or not.

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