Wasn’t Drax the name of a Sontaran from Doctor Who.
Makes this suggestion seem less strange.
I imagine a lot of young people don’t want to work and have nothing to show for it, maybe build a society where people have opportunities and something to work towards.
Yes because that’s just what the Army needs. People that are unable to work or apply for work.
When you see it’s a Telegraph article, just downvote it and move on for the sake of your sanity.
>The MP for South Dorset went on to suggest young offenders could have their sentences significantly shortened for good behaviour if they agreed to join the Army.
>“Let’s say [a young person] has 10 pints of beer, slugs somebody and is locked up for it,” he said.
>“If you get that sort of behaviour, you could, as a magistrate, say to these young men and women ‘you’ve got an option – if you’re a good boy or girl, you’ll come out, but you must do a year in the Armed Forces’.”
Wagner on Magners. Brilliant idea.
Has anyone asked the army what they think about this cunning plan?
Probably the same people who see no hypocrisy in councils constantly rejecting planning permissions for homes and businesses because they don’t like them then can’t understand why they’ve run out of money and need us to bail them out.
Or what you send us to prison when we refuse conscription?
(Although tbf if someone offered me a decent job I would accept it).
They expect a person who refuses to work the basic of jobs to defend the country against terrorists and Putin?
No wonder the rest of the world laugh at us!
Why not conscript the super rich tax evaders first before targeting the poor and marginalised in society.
We could also force politicians that misuse expenses &or commit fraud, or generally be corrupt to be conscripted also.
If you were in the military.
Would you want to fight alongside the guy who turned down enough jobs to get conscripted?
Would you want your kits stored looked after by that man?
Would you trust to share your living space with them?
To make this work they’d need a whole division of them kept separate from dragging the rest down, like a foreign legion of work shy people. I can’t see it doing anything but dragging our defensive capabilities down, and at a higher cost than benefits.
Only way I could see the military helping would be if they offered like a 6 month or a year foundation degree of training and work that long term unemployed could sign up for, but even that would take more work and issues than I think the current government can be trusted to sort out without creating a major catastrophe.
The Tories have destroyed the recruitment system through their dodgy deals… so they’re now suggesting they’ll force people into military service?
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They do realise a vast majority of those that turn jobs down aren’t doing it to be picky, they’re likely disabled and can’t do the role suggested…. which then makes it impossible to be conscripted
Ah, that would be the good ol’ Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax, then. Truly someone in touch with the common man.
There are occasions where the correct response is to swear, this is one of them.
Fuck off.
I am sure that filling the armed forces with people who can’t or won’t do a more regular job would work out just fine. I can’t foresee any problems at all. Ha ha ha ha ha. Who voted for this clown?
They’re probably on Jobseekers because they tried to get into the forces and got rejected for a kiwi allergy by Capita.
Only if we use his estates to build the many many new bases that would be needed to accommodate all these extra people.
Conscription will be handled by Capita. So it’ll take 3 years to come through and you’ll be forced to quit the job you found in the meantime.
Didn’t national service due to the fact 90% of the people didn’t want to be there and that taking people out of work for a year just as they come of age is terrible for the economy?
So quite honest then, “let’s have the poor shot, and we don’t even have to pay for the bullets, we can get the Russians to do it”
They really do hava hate boner for anyone less privileged than themselves, and genuinely believe mogg and his kind worked much harder n deserves it.
Can’t even fix a pothole in this country we are doomed
You can’t even get volunteers through recruitment. Can’t see them doing any better with conscription.
I wonder if they have asked the armed forces what they think of potentially getting a bunch of feckless, work-shy, and highly reluctant conscripts? Bet they’ll be jumping for joy. /s
He wants to be careful, he could be out of work himself by the summer.
I see, so they are just saying all the nasty shit that they don’t normally say out loud, now that they are about to disappear up their own arseholes. I hope more of them do it before the GE tbh.
A much better idea is that anyone of retirement age be conscripted … a sort of granddads army. I mean … it would actually solve most of the UKs problems and it’s not like they are actually doing anything either.
Oh, old people wouldn’t like that idea you say? (/s in case anyone was wonder … but did we run it through the computer?)
Uh oh with the looming Tory wipeout in parliament, the armed forces could be fully repopulated with ex MP’s
The military doesn’t want conscripts. It’s tiresome to hear opinions from these MPs.
60 percent would not pass the medical. They won’t bother with those over thirty.
Omg. It’s amazing when they no longer feel constrained to watch what they say.
I fucking despise the Tories and the military. That said:-
This might be a good idea if the military was used for things other than war and fighting. Things like doing community good, helping to build new infrastructure, forestry, etc. Something like the Peace Corps in the US I guess?
There is a subset of people who would probably benefit from this only because they’ve been failed by the system elsewhere and the jobcentre isn’t enough. I know personally of 2 family members in their early 20s who have been on universal credit for 4 years – they had a rough upbringing, have various issues like anxiety etc, and are just destined to a life rotting at home living on benefits. Makes me sad and angry that there are likely thousands like this who have just fallen through the gaps.
Tory MPs that lose their seat at the next election should be conscripted
Picture the scene; a British refugee washes up at Calais, explains that they’re a senior Structural Engineer who hasn’t been able to find work for three years due to a highly competitive workplace and they’ve fled because of the looming threat of conscription.
What a joke of a third world country we’ve become.
Here’s a policy idea for free to any MPs lurking in the sub, if you want more people in employment… and more people to join the Army… then maybe consider improving the pay and conditions for soldiers? Then more people will join, improving the employment and defence statistics simultaneously! It’s a win win. Even if that wasn’t enough, the existing soldiers will be happier and more likely to vote for you!
They’ll be jobless soon, see ya in the trenches mate
Senior Tory MP, I have a job for minimum wage where you use your toothbrush to clean my toilet. Oh you refuse? CONSCRIPTION!
People on disability on the battlefield knowing the DWP lol
They should be careful, unemployment line is becoming for a lot of MPs
Reminds me of ‘McNamaras morons’, an experimental policy of the US government for conscripting intellectually disabled persons into the army during Vietnam war. All these poor sods did was get blown up/shot, got in the way, or got other people blown up/shot.
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So you can basically say anything you want when you know your party is getting obliterated at the next general election then?
I’m sure forced conscription would work out just dandy /s
Is that one of those Conservative violence phantasies?
Force somebody vulnerable to apply force co somebody else vulnerable. It is a bit like the Hunger Games.
Decline 3 job offers, 2 years conscription. Drunkly ‘slug someone’ bad enough to be convicted, a heavily reduced sentence and 1 year of conscription.
[Drax would look down on you more for declining a job than drunkenly punching someone.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/e726be96721494ee315ee81c090a99cf/tumblr_inline_out2708wWp1s50qig_250.gif)
Wasn’t Drax the name of a Sontaran from Doctor Who.
Makes this suggestion seem less strange.
I imagine a lot of young people don’t want to work and have nothing to show for it, maybe build a society where people have opportunities and something to work towards.
Yes because that’s just what the Army needs. People that are unable to work or apply for work.
When you see it’s a Telegraph article, just downvote it and move on for the sake of your sanity.
>The MP for South Dorset went on to suggest young offenders could have their sentences significantly shortened for good behaviour if they agreed to join the Army.
>“Let’s say [a young person] has 10 pints of beer, slugs somebody and is locked up for it,” he said.
>“If you get that sort of behaviour, you could, as a magistrate, say to these young men and women ‘you’ve got an option – if you’re a good boy or girl, you’ll come out, but you must do a year in the Armed Forces’.”
Wagner on Magners. Brilliant idea.
Has anyone asked the army what they think about this cunning plan?
Probably the same people who see no hypocrisy in councils constantly rejecting planning permissions for homes and businesses because they don’t like them then can’t understand why they’ve run out of money and need us to bail them out.
Or what you send us to prison when we refuse conscription?
(Although tbf if someone offered me a decent job I would accept it).
They expect a person who refuses to work the basic of jobs to defend the country against terrorists and Putin?
No wonder the rest of the world laugh at us!
Why not conscript the super rich tax evaders first before targeting the poor and marginalised in society.
We could also force politicians that misuse expenses &or commit fraud, or generally be corrupt to be conscripted also.
If you were in the military.
Would you want to fight alongside the guy who turned down enough jobs to get conscripted?
Would you want your kits stored looked after by that man?
Would you trust to share your living space with them?
To make this work they’d need a whole division of them kept separate from dragging the rest down, like a foreign legion of work shy people. I can’t see it doing anything but dragging our defensive capabilities down, and at a higher cost than benefits.
Only way I could see the military helping would be if they offered like a 6 month or a year foundation degree of training and work that long term unemployed could sign up for, but even that would take more work and issues than I think the current government can be trusted to sort out without creating a major catastrophe.
The Tories have destroyed the recruitment system through their dodgy deals… so they’re now suggesting they’ll force people into military service?
​
They do realise a vast majority of those that turn jobs down aren’t doing it to be picky, they’re likely disabled and can’t do the role suggested…. which then makes it impossible to be conscripted
Ah, that would be the good ol’ Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax, then. Truly someone in touch with the common man.
There are occasions where the correct response is to swear, this is one of them.
Fuck off.
I am sure that filling the armed forces with people who can’t or won’t do a more regular job would work out just fine. I can’t foresee any problems at all. Ha ha ha ha ha. Who voted for this clown?
They’re probably on Jobseekers because they tried to get into the forces and got rejected for a kiwi allergy by Capita.
Only if we use his estates to build the many many new bases that would be needed to accommodate all these extra people.
Conscription will be handled by Capita. So it’ll take 3 years to come through and you’ll be forced to quit the job you found in the meantime.
Didn’t national service due to the fact 90% of the people didn’t want to be there and that taking people out of work for a year just as they come of age is terrible for the economy?
So quite honest then, “let’s have the poor shot, and we don’t even have to pay for the bullets, we can get the Russians to do it”
They really do hava hate boner for anyone less privileged than themselves, and genuinely believe mogg and his kind worked much harder n deserves it.
Can’t even fix a pothole in this country we are doomed
You can’t even get volunteers through recruitment. Can’t see them doing any better with conscription.
I wonder if they have asked the armed forces what they think of potentially getting a bunch of feckless, work-shy, and highly reluctant conscripts? Bet they’ll be jumping for joy. /s
He wants to be careful, he could be out of work himself by the summer.
I see, so they are just saying all the nasty shit that they don’t normally say out loud, now that they are about to disappear up their own arseholes. I hope more of them do it before the GE tbh.
A much better idea is that anyone of retirement age be conscripted … a sort of granddads army. I mean … it would actually solve most of the UKs problems and it’s not like they are actually doing anything either.
Oh, old people wouldn’t like that idea you say? (/s in case anyone was wonder … but did we run it through the computer?)
Uh oh with the looming Tory wipeout in parliament, the armed forces could be fully repopulated with ex MP’s
The military doesn’t want conscripts. It’s tiresome to hear opinions from these MPs.
60 percent would not pass the medical. They won’t bother with those over thirty.
Omg. It’s amazing when they no longer feel constrained to watch what they say.
I fucking despise the Tories and the military. That said:-
This might be a good idea if the military was used for things other than war and fighting. Things like doing community good, helping to build new infrastructure, forestry, etc. Something like the Peace Corps in the US I guess?
There is a subset of people who would probably benefit from this only because they’ve been failed by the system elsewhere and the jobcentre isn’t enough. I know personally of 2 family members in their early 20s who have been on universal credit for 4 years – they had a rough upbringing, have various issues like anxiety etc, and are just destined to a life rotting at home living on benefits. Makes me sad and angry that there are likely thousands like this who have just fallen through the gaps.
Tory MPs that lose their seat at the next election should be conscripted
Picture the scene; a British refugee washes up at Calais, explains that they’re a senior Structural Engineer who hasn’t been able to find work for three years due to a highly competitive workplace and they’ve fled because of the looming threat of conscription.
What a joke of a third world country we’ve become.
Here’s a policy idea for free to any MPs lurking in the sub, if you want more people in employment… and more people to join the Army… then maybe consider improving the pay and conditions for soldiers? Then more people will join, improving the employment and defence statistics simultaneously! It’s a win win. Even if that wasn’t enough, the existing soldiers will be happier and more likely to vote for you!
They’ll be jobless soon, see ya in the trenches mate
Senior Tory MP, I have a job for minimum wage where you use your toothbrush to clean my toilet. Oh you refuse? CONSCRIPTION!
People on disability on the battlefield knowing the DWP lol
They should be careful, unemployment line is becoming for a lot of MPs
Reminds me of ‘McNamaras morons’, an experimental policy of the US government for conscripting intellectually disabled persons into the army during Vietnam war. All these poor sods did was get blown up/shot, got in the way, or got other people blown up/shot.