Stop… Stop saying this will bring down Orban. It won’t…
He’s a de facto dictator. *In the EU.*. The EU even pays him. Orban said he wanted to get rid of democracy ten years ago already. Nothing happened since then. The EPP protected him till 2021. After that, Poland protected him. Now, other EU Member States will protect him.
Only the Hungarian people can bring down Orban, since the EU doesn’t really care. But Hungary isn’t a democracy, so they *can’t* bring him down.
Steve Bannon called Orban the original Trump. The Trump before Trump. And he’s right. Orban could kill someone in the equivalent of Fifth Avenue in Budapest, and most of Hungary would still vote for him.
The EU has a de facto dictator in its midst for ten years already, and it doesn’t give a damn’ about it. Human rights champion, my ass.
I dont get why the CIA hasnt toppled him already and installed an anti-russian pro-nato govt instead. This guy is a serious threat to the alliance and to europe.
It *should* have already brought him down. It’s damning on Hungarians as a whole that it hasn’t.
The fact that Orbán’s voting base in the diaspora and countryside have repeatedly traded in its dignity (and sold out their country and other Hungarians) for backwards revanchist dreams or boneheaded populist economic band-aids makes me skeptical that enough Hungarians will ever find the guts to figure things out in time before they join Belarusians as the second nation of footstools for the Muscovites.
The unflattering truth is while he and his party turned the screws on CEU, set up slow-motion rigging of the electoral system by re-designating seats in parliament to be determined by FPTP, openly sucked Putin’s and Xi’s micro-сoсks, skimmed EU funds for football stadiums, ***not*** enough Hungarians were convinced of how happily Fidesz and Orbán were dragging the country down the drain.
But the story continued. The perpetrator has a NER aka a lawyer close to Orban. Yesterday, a TV channel showed a hidden camera footage of the pedophile trying to get one of his former victims – whose life he had completely destroyed – to change his testimony, according to the perpetrator, on the advice of the lawyer, to say that he had not told the truth when he testified about the sexual offence against him.
Postscript. There’s also a Fidesz-affiliated priest, Csaba Böjthe, who “runs orphanages, in a Dickens sort of way. For years, pedophile abuses have taken place there, but with the help of the authorities they were covered up.
This article is from 3 weeks ago and….. no it most certainly did not bring down Orban and it is over.
You want to get rid of Orban? Stop giving him money. All of it. Not a few billions less and a few billions later than originally intended. Close the moneyhose and he’ll be docile in a few years or out on his arse.
I love articles like this, it tells me how bad the situation is, how little the west understands.
Orban is supported by 90% of Hungarians. He will never leave. Ever. If the 10% dear to do something, he will take care of them
Big portion of hopium, but won’t work in Hungary.
People lost all hope.
Yes, this scandal should have brought down any leader in a functioning democracy. Here in Hungary, people just got used to a new low. From now on, not even pedophile news about the government will make people care, we’ll get used to it just how we got used to immense corruption and sex scandals. There was a 150 thousand people protest about this scandal, nothing happened afterwards. Orbán just pointed at liberals and called them pedophiles, then got cheered for it.
A few years ago Hungarian ambassador Kaleta Gábor got caught with 19000 Child P on his tech, had to pay like $1000 bucks and nothing happened. Szájer József got caught in a drug fueled gay orgy in covid era, nothing happened. Borkai Zsolt got caught on a yacht banging escorts, got reelected as mayor afterwards.
Billions of dollars of tax money gets stolen in obvious ways and no one cares.
We are not a democracy anymore, voting only exists to make it seem we are one, they get 2/3 majority with 49% of the votes. and had 2/3 majority since 2010. We’re also in a state of emergency on and off since 2016, now on a 2 year streak.
“Itt kell lenned, hogy elhidd/You have to be here to believe it”
The only thing bringing him down would be cholesterol.
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Stop… Stop saying this will bring down Orban. It won’t…
He’s a de facto dictator. *In the EU.*. The EU even pays him. Orban said he wanted to get rid of democracy ten years ago already. Nothing happened since then. The EPP protected him till 2021. After that, Poland protected him. Now, other EU Member States will protect him.
Only the Hungarian people can bring down Orban, since the EU doesn’t really care. But Hungary isn’t a democracy, so they *can’t* bring him down.
Steve Bannon called Orban the original Trump. The Trump before Trump. And he’s right. Orban could kill someone in the equivalent of Fifth Avenue in Budapest, and most of Hungary would still vote for him.
The EU has a de facto dictator in its midst for ten years already, and it doesn’t give a damn’ about it. Human rights champion, my ass.
I dont get why the CIA hasnt toppled him already and installed an anti-russian pro-nato govt instead. This guy is a serious threat to the alliance and to europe.
It *should* have already brought him down. It’s damning on Hungarians as a whole that it hasn’t.
The fact that Orbán’s voting base in the diaspora and countryside have repeatedly traded in its dignity (and sold out their country and other Hungarians) for backwards revanchist dreams or boneheaded populist economic band-aids makes me skeptical that enough Hungarians will ever find the guts to figure things out in time before they join Belarusians as the second nation of footstools for the Muscovites.
The unflattering truth is while he and his party turned the screws on CEU, set up slow-motion rigging of the electoral system by re-designating seats in parliament to be determined by FPTP, openly sucked Putin’s and Xi’s micro-сoсks, skimmed EU funds for football stadiums, ***not*** enough Hungarians were convinced of how happily Fidesz and Orbán were dragging the country down the drain.
But the story continued. The perpetrator has a NER aka a lawyer close to Orban. Yesterday, a TV channel showed a hidden camera footage of the pedophile trying to get one of his former victims – whose life he had completely destroyed – to change his testimony, according to the perpetrator, on the advice of the lawyer, to say that he had not told the truth when he testified about the sexual offence against him.
Postscript. There’s also a Fidesz-affiliated priest, Csaba Böjthe, who “runs orphanages, in a Dickens sort of way. For years, pedophile abuses have taken place there, but with the help of the authorities they were covered up.
[https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/17643-romania-franciscan-friar-s-orphanage-network-concealed-sexual-violence](https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/17643-romania-franciscan-friar-s-orphanage-network-concealed-sexual-violence)
Friends close, enemies closer.
This article is from 3 weeks ago and….. no it most certainly did not bring down Orban and it is over.
You want to get rid of Orban? Stop giving him money. All of it. Not a few billions less and a few billions later than originally intended. Close the moneyhose and he’ll be docile in a few years or out on his arse.
I love articles like this, it tells me how bad the situation is, how little the west understands.
Orban is supported by 90% of Hungarians. He will never leave. Ever. If the 10% dear to do something, he will take care of them
Big portion of hopium, but won’t work in Hungary.
People lost all hope.
Yes, this scandal should have brought down any leader in a functioning democracy. Here in Hungary, people just got used to a new low. From now on, not even pedophile news about the government will make people care, we’ll get used to it just how we got used to immense corruption and sex scandals. There was a 150 thousand people protest about this scandal, nothing happened afterwards. Orbán just pointed at liberals and called them pedophiles, then got cheered for it.
A few years ago Hungarian ambassador Kaleta Gábor got caught with 19000 Child P on his tech, had to pay like $1000 bucks and nothing happened. Szájer József got caught in a drug fueled gay orgy in covid era, nothing happened. Borkai Zsolt got caught on a yacht banging escorts, got reelected as mayor afterwards.
Billions of dollars of tax money gets stolen in obvious ways and no one cares.
We are not a democracy anymore, voting only exists to make it seem we are one, they get 2/3 majority with 49% of the votes. and had 2/3 majority since 2010. We’re also in a state of emergency on and off since 2016, now on a 2 year streak.
“Itt kell lenned, hogy elhidd/You have to be here to believe it”
The only thing bringing him down would be cholesterol.