> Annual changes in MPs’ pay are linked to changes in average earnings in the public sector using Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures.
I feel like I should be irked by this but it is independently overseen and they do run the country. We don’t want this being a plaything purely for the rich as they could likely all get better paying jobs elsewhere.
gotta reward the great job theyre doing making the UK great!
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Who cares about the pay when you have the power to hand out 400 million and get 15 million back.
Might be unpopular but I think they should be paid more, with the caveats of both an outright ban on any other paid work while in office (appearances etc) and a ban on any lobbying role for the full parliamentary term after they leave office (which is apparently already being looked at – https://www.ft.com/content/9f6717a7-6c30-4bac-b619-f2e480adaa77). Higher compensation creates healthier competition for the role and better candidates – there’s plenty there now that would struggle pouring water out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
Honestly this point they are taking the piss .
Why the fuck do we not protest , kick off like other countries ?
Not an issue as long as all public sector workers get the same. I won’t hold my breath though.
Tough one this, my general thoughts are if we pay better salaries we might attract people in strategy and consulting / finance etc proven field experience who earn 200/300k instead of numpties who vote in party lines to keep a job.
Jump into any tech / consulting business QBR and the difference to the blithering idiots is staggering.
Surely they don’t *need* an expenses account anymore if they’re on £90k.
Above inflation rise? Expenses far more generous and flexible than any other civil servant? Allowed to have a second (or more) job despite having access to privileged information? Ability to take that inside info to a related job after employment? Nice fat severance arrangements? Generous pension after a very short term? Expensed house flipping with avoidance of CGT? Yes please
No wonder being an MP attracts the wrong sort of person
£90K is not a lot to be an MP, the level of responsibility, especially if you’re in cabinet is just too much when you consider you can get paid more in the private sector for less risk and stress
I think MP’s salaries should be more attractive and that perhaps could attract better candidates.
MP pay rises should be the mode of all other public sector pay rises.
I’d pay them £150k a year. But I’d also ban them from second jobs, working as consultants, and stop anyone who becomes an MP from going to work for any companies that benefit from the policies they enact.
I’m unlikely to make many friends by saying this, but good. MPs are not highly paid compared to legislators in other developed countries, and they should be paid more if we are ever to attract the sort of people we really need to the position. Very senior professionals earning very senior professional wages aren’t going to accept a massive dip in their wages for a job where they are constantly under media scrutiny, have major security concerns and often work both long and weird hours. We need to do what Singapore does and link their pay to the pay that would go to high up members of a short list of professions.
Can’t wait for the lies using percentages to start. 5.5% on 85k is a hell of a lot more than 10% on minimum wage.
Hot take.
Double their salary. Say approx £180,000 if we’re going to now pay them around £90,000
scrap most of their expenses.
no second jobs.
Predicting a ton of rage about this but however much some more visible examples are awful, it is an extremely demanding job. Do we want talented people in that profession or not? Because lord knows we need some
Lots of people saying they agree with MPs pay increases, creates heathy competition etc.
The problem is that most of them are greedy corrupt immoral cunts using their position to further personal business ventures and gains for family/friends. THIS is why there is no appetite from working people to see them rewarded. Also look at the mess they’ve made of the country while depriving more deserving roles of lesser rates of pay increases.
We don’t want it so underpaid that it’s only done by rich people who just do it as a hobby.
We also don’t want MPs who are paid so much they’re out of touch with ordinary people.
It’s also worth remembering that lots of MPs have second jobs which pay them far more than they get for being an MP. That income means they can use private health care, send their kids to private schools, own multiple homes and basically insulate themselves from the consequences of their own policies.
The average salary in the country is about £30k. Nurses, teachers and police work for about £35k. If MPs salaries were connected to the country’s average MPs would have an incentive to either do what they can to raise the average salary or make life on an average salary more bearable. Then they could have a pay rise everytime they get re-elected.
Give them a pay increase but make it contingent on a stricter code of practice, and expenses policy
I have no problem with adequate pay for the job they do.
I do have a problem that a pay rise for them is a foregone conclusion, whereas Police, NHS staff etc. initially paid in claps and banging pots and pans, had to strike to get a raise just to cover cost of living crisis. Not even a raise, it just matched the effects of inflation.
Then there’s the *key workers* of lockdowns, only 4 years ago today kept the world turning whilst everyone else sat at home and got 80% of their pay, and they have been ignored since everything returned to *normal*.
Conveniently they can pay themselves all a 5.5% jump in pay but the people who actually go out there and save lives appropriately.
MP (and their staffs’) pay rises are linked to yearly public sector earnings increases, as documented by the ONS*. Some years they get big rises, other years they get very little or none.
MPs, the majority of them, work hard, barely see their families and spend a lot of time travelling or staying in their secondary accommodation alone. On some days, Parliament can sit for up to 16/17 hours. They also then work on weekends when they get home to their constituencies and give up their evenings for events, meetings and constituency business. What wage do you think is fair for all of that? Not to forget the public scrutiny and lack of privacy and the danger they face from the public.
“MPs expenses” is an all round term for things like office costs, staffing costs, accommodation costs and travel costs. This cannot possibly come out of their wages as an MP’s office costs can be in the region of £200,000+/pa. IPSA stringently check all expenses claims and will make MPs pay back anything they have misclaimed or claimed late for.
The pre-2009 expense scandal days are gone and anyone still banging that drum is ignorant at best and misleading at worst.
Let’s face it, if we want somebody very intelligent to take on the stress, responsibility, risk and danger of running the country we can’t pay them poorly.
This is way way too low, i know lobbiests and lawyers who earn double this and they look after a company. These people look after a country
Absolutely disgraceful.
In a cost of living crisis, mps get exactly what they want. All my essential bills have shot up ten fold.
Que the MP’s shouting “independent pay review body, we don’t decide our wages”
Should they be fairly paid for their work? Yes. Should other public sectors also be fairly paid? Yes. If they argue that a 5.5% increase is fair, then it (and previous increases) should also apply to other public sector workers.
Dud they have to strike to get that juicy deal??
The BMA rejected the Government’s offer of an additional 3% for this year, saying this would “amount to pay cuts for many doctors
Easy to feel like we should be upset about this, I’m reality I believe most people will be receiving similar rises.
Only thing that bothers me is the outcry from certain ministers when the public wanted similar rises themselves.
I’m all for them getting a pay rise. Problem is most public services are seeing their pay practically frozen!
Basically the only public sector workers who regularly get pay increments.
38% pay increase since 2010.
Meanwhile public sector workers have had the grand total of fuck all.
This wouldn’t be as hard to stomach if they weren’t absolutely rolling in “donations” or capital gains.
Bit of pocket money to supplement all the corrupt deals they do
While this always causes outrage, I think it’s good to pay people for a relatively thankless job that could get them killed on the off chance. It should somewhat reduce the temptation to become a lobbyist shill.
Although I think every MP should probably have to do a summer recess on benefits-level income without access to their fortunes or social networks for a reality TV show.
Cunts, why don’t other public sector roles don’t get an auto 5.5% increase?
They could always decline an increase given the state of the country.
What they’re paid ON PAPER doesn’t bother me. It’s the back alley contracts and deal making that takes place that bothers me.
They make you sick man, nobody else can get a rise but sure as fuck, those with the nose in the trough always get theirs.
Oh thank god, at least the people fucking up the country are getting pay rises. We can all sleep easier now.
And yet, they’ll vote against anything that might actually benefit the common man
I have been looking at MP expenses and they have been creeping up.
My local one has been eating a LOT of take aways and getting their rent and council tax paid for.
I do wonder just how much disposable income they must have with the tax payers paying for most of what we would normally have to pay for ourselves.
I’d like to see a performance based pay rise introduced based on progressing manifesto promises
Surely they’ll all be in favour of declining this pay rise to help the economy/help combat inflation?
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https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mps-pay-and-pensions
> Annual changes in MPs’ pay are linked to changes in average earnings in the public sector using Office for National Statistics (ONS) figures.
I feel like I should be irked by this but it is independently overseen and they do run the country. We don’t want this being a plaything purely for the rich as they could likely all get better paying jobs elsewhere.
gotta reward the great job theyre doing making the UK great!
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Who cares about the pay when you have the power to hand out 400 million and get 15 million back.
Might be unpopular but I think they should be paid more, with the caveats of both an outright ban on any other paid work while in office (appearances etc) and a ban on any lobbying role for the full parliamentary term after they leave office (which is apparently already being looked at – https://www.ft.com/content/9f6717a7-6c30-4bac-b619-f2e480adaa77). Higher compensation creates healthier competition for the role and better candidates – there’s plenty there now that would struggle pouring water out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
Honestly this point they are taking the piss .
Why the fuck do we not protest , kick off like other countries ?
Not an issue as long as all public sector workers get the same. I won’t hold my breath though.
Tough one this, my general thoughts are if we pay better salaries we might attract people in strategy and consulting / finance etc proven field experience who earn 200/300k instead of numpties who vote in party lines to keep a job.
Jump into any tech / consulting business QBR and the difference to the blithering idiots is staggering.
Surely they don’t *need* an expenses account anymore if they’re on £90k.
Above inflation rise? Expenses far more generous and flexible than any other civil servant? Allowed to have a second (or more) job despite having access to privileged information? Ability to take that inside info to a related job after employment? Nice fat severance arrangements? Generous pension after a very short term? Expensed house flipping with avoidance of CGT? Yes please
No wonder being an MP attracts the wrong sort of person
£90K is not a lot to be an MP, the level of responsibility, especially if you’re in cabinet is just too much when you consider you can get paid more in the private sector for less risk and stress
I think MP’s salaries should be more attractive and that perhaps could attract better candidates.
MP pay rises should be the mode of all other public sector pay rises.
I’d pay them £150k a year. But I’d also ban them from second jobs, working as consultants, and stop anyone who becomes an MP from going to work for any companies that benefit from the policies they enact.
I’m unlikely to make many friends by saying this, but good. MPs are not highly paid compared to legislators in other developed countries, and they should be paid more if we are ever to attract the sort of people we really need to the position. Very senior professionals earning very senior professional wages aren’t going to accept a massive dip in their wages for a job where they are constantly under media scrutiny, have major security concerns and often work both long and weird hours. We need to do what Singapore does and link their pay to the pay that would go to high up members of a short list of professions.
Can’t wait for the lies using percentages to start. 5.5% on 85k is a hell of a lot more than 10% on minimum wage.
Hot take.
Double their salary. Say approx £180,000 if we’re going to now pay them around £90,000
scrap most of their expenses.
no second jobs.
Predicting a ton of rage about this but however much some more visible examples are awful, it is an extremely demanding job. Do we want talented people in that profession or not? Because lord knows we need some
Lots of people saying they agree with MPs pay increases, creates heathy competition etc.
The problem is that most of them are greedy corrupt immoral cunts using their position to further personal business ventures and gains for family/friends. THIS is why there is no appetite from working people to see them rewarded. Also look at the mess they’ve made of the country while depriving more deserving roles of lesser rates of pay increases.
We don’t want it so underpaid that it’s only done by rich people who just do it as a hobby.
We also don’t want MPs who are paid so much they’re out of touch with ordinary people.
It’s also worth remembering that lots of MPs have second jobs which pay them far more than they get for being an MP. That income means they can use private health care, send their kids to private schools, own multiple homes and basically insulate themselves from the consequences of their own policies.
The average salary in the country is about £30k. Nurses, teachers and police work for about £35k. If MPs salaries were connected to the country’s average MPs would have an incentive to either do what they can to raise the average salary or make life on an average salary more bearable. Then they could have a pay rise everytime they get re-elected.
Give them a pay increase but make it contingent on a stricter code of practice, and expenses policy
I have no problem with adequate pay for the job they do.
I do have a problem that a pay rise for them is a foregone conclusion, whereas Police, NHS staff etc. initially paid in claps and banging pots and pans, had to strike to get a raise just to cover cost of living crisis. Not even a raise, it just matched the effects of inflation.
Then there’s the *key workers* of lockdowns, only 4 years ago today kept the world turning whilst everyone else sat at home and got 80% of their pay, and they have been ignored since everything returned to *normal*.
Conveniently they can pay themselves all a 5.5% jump in pay but the people who actually go out there and save lives appropriately.
MP (and their staffs’) pay rises are linked to yearly public sector earnings increases, as documented by the ONS*. Some years they get big rises, other years they get very little or none.
MPs, the majority of them, work hard, barely see their families and spend a lot of time travelling or staying in their secondary accommodation alone. On some days, Parliament can sit for up to 16/17 hours. They also then work on weekends when they get home to their constituencies and give up their evenings for events, meetings and constituency business. What wage do you think is fair for all of that? Not to forget the public scrutiny and lack of privacy and the danger they face from the public.
“MPs expenses” is an all round term for things like office costs, staffing costs, accommodation costs and travel costs. This cannot possibly come out of their wages as an MP’s office costs can be in the region of £200,000+/pa. IPSA stringently check all expenses claims and will make MPs pay back anything they have misclaimed or claimed late for.
The pre-2009 expense scandal days are gone and anyone still banging that drum is ignorant at best and misleading at worst.
* https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/averageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/february2024#:~:text=Annual%20average%20regular%20earnings%20growth,to%20July%202022%20(6.0%25)
Let’s face it, if we want somebody very intelligent to take on the stress, responsibility, risk and danger of running the country we can’t pay them poorly.
This is way way too low, i know lobbiests and lawyers who earn double this and they look after a company. These people look after a country
Absolutely disgraceful.
In a cost of living crisis, mps get exactly what they want. All my essential bills have shot up ten fold.
Que the MP’s shouting “independent pay review body, we don’t decide our wages”
Should they be fairly paid for their work? Yes. Should other public sectors also be fairly paid? Yes. If they argue that a 5.5% increase is fair, then it (and previous increases) should also apply to other public sector workers.
Dud they have to strike to get that juicy deal??
The BMA rejected the Government’s offer of an additional 3% for this year, saying this would “amount to pay cuts for many doctors
Easy to feel like we should be upset about this, I’m reality I believe most people will be receiving similar rises.
Only thing that bothers me is the outcry from certain ministers when the public wanted similar rises themselves.
I’m all for them getting a pay rise. Problem is most public services are seeing their pay practically frozen!
Basically the only public sector workers who regularly get pay increments.
38% pay increase since 2010.
Meanwhile public sector workers have had the grand total of fuck all.
This wouldn’t be as hard to stomach if they weren’t absolutely rolling in “donations” or capital gains.
Bit of pocket money to supplement all the corrupt deals they do
While this always causes outrage, I think it’s good to pay people for a relatively thankless job that could get them killed on the off chance. It should somewhat reduce the temptation to become a lobbyist shill.
Although I think every MP should probably have to do a summer recess on benefits-level income without access to their fortunes or social networks for a reality TV show.
Cunts, why don’t other public sector roles don’t get an auto 5.5% increase?
They could always decline an increase given the state of the country.
What they’re paid ON PAPER doesn’t bother me. It’s the back alley contracts and deal making that takes place that bothers me.
They make you sick man, nobody else can get a rise but sure as fuck, those with the nose in the trough always get theirs.
Oh thank god, at least the people fucking up the country are getting pay rises. We can all sleep easier now.
And yet, they’ll vote against anything that might actually benefit the common man
I have been looking at MP expenses and they have been creeping up.
My local one has been eating a LOT of take aways and getting their rent and council tax paid for.
I do wonder just how much disposable income they must have with the tax payers paying for most of what we would normally have to pay for ourselves.
I’d like to see a performance based pay rise introduced based on progressing manifesto promises
Surely they’ll all be in favour of declining this pay rise to help the economy/help combat inflation?