I’m the car marked yellow, the car I marked red clearly thinks he has priority because this morning he was clearly upset because I was where he wanted to drive.Honking his horn and making awful gestures (I merged the most left lane going west). Both south and north inbound traffic get green light at the same time.

I think I have priority. He is joining from my right side . I could understand if he wanted to merge the right lane but cut over to the left because there are trucks on the right, almost hitting me and honking like I need to give way? Like I literally don’t have any place to go? Not cool! Opinions?

by Zonderling81

47 comments

  1. You have the priority as he’s only joining the main road with priority that you’re already driving on in that exact spot. However, this is a very tricky situation where he’d need to watch across 10s of meters of the road to see if anyone joins the main road. The solution is patience, plus you joining the left lane and him the right. I think that his frustration must have come from the surprise of you appearing, or simply because he was a …

  2. I feel like you have to get off the intersection asap, so that makes you the priority.

  3. Red has priority (right handed turn over left handed turn). Ideally you can both use 1 of both lanes but if red cars want to use priority like in your example they can.

  4. Red has priority, but this is a horrible design. In this case i think they better order the red trajectory to yield because officially Yellow also has to go to the rightmost lane which would cause a conflict.

  5. Yellow is already on the main road after turning left. While red wants to turn to the right, he has to give way.

  7. I’m confused, what makes you think you could have priority here ?

  8. they don’t even enter the same lane, there are two lanes there.

    why would they collide.

    actually, if they collide, i’d say, the one who went out of his lane is wrong. so he was wrong.

    the moment you two meet you are not turning left and he is not turning right, you are on the same street. and if he wants to enter your lane he should use signals and wait for an opening.

    and big honk doesn’t make him ‘right’

  9. I believe this is the intersection of A12 and N16 in Willebroek. You’re both turning on the N16 towards Sint-Niklaas. I often come from the red side and have seen some close calls. The yellow side has priority because it has finished its turn before passing the red cars, and the road they turned on is a priority road. Also, the red cars don’t get a green light, but a flashing orange to indicate that they are not free to turn without looking.

  10. When there’s no other indication, you have to give priority to the car coming from the right. So red would have priority afaik.
    That being said, I feel like you can only safely resolve this situation by using traffic lights. Red and yellow should not have a green light at the same time.

  11. in the abence of signs, the priority of vehicules coming from the right prevail. So red has right of way

  13. So… yellow and red both have a green light at the same time then?

  15. Ah yes, classic Belgian infrastructure. Only in this country you can find retarded intersections like this. I’m sorry for being harsh, but whoever designed and approved this was absolutely incompetent.

    This is next to Puurs by the way, I know the intersection very well. Almost had my own car wrecked on several occasions here because of the confusion this place causes.

    Edit: forgot to answer the question, but the yellow car has priority here. The fact that this question has to be asked should tell you everything about how atrocious the design of Belgian highways are.

  16. yellow has priority as there is a full white line (equivalent to a stop sign) in front of red

  17. Anyone who mentions “without any signs”, there’s a Stop line in front of Red. That alone should indicate yellow has priority, let alone the bicycle path, or the fact that his road is obviously merging.

  18. There are 2 lanes u go on the left one and he goes on the right one ? What’s the problem

  19. Red has to full stop and give priority as the road markings indicate. Maybe there are traffic light but I can’t really see them from this perspective.

  20. There are three lanes merging into two, that means there has to be a merge somewhere yet the design of the intersection doesn’t allow a safe and obvious place to merge. I feel like this intersection wasn’t designed to let yellow and red have green together. The reason he goes into the left lane is because he started in the left lane. If two lanes go into two lanes you need to stay in your lane. If one lane goes into two lanes you need to choose the right lane btw 🙂

  22. At the point of “interaction” yellow is already on the main road and has priority. While red has to cross the “STOP” line, and then merge to the main road.

  23. Well you might be a dick. Iirc you have to turn into the path on the rightmost lane, which you didn’t. Barring any signs giving priority, right of way is to those coming from the right.

  24. Yellow is on the main road before red, that would’ve been my thinking in this case. Honestly they should just put sharksteeth on red.

  28. Need more info… where is this intersection ?

    Signalisation is definitely lacking apparently. Outside of agglomerations right of way should be clearly visible. Right priority without markings only applies in agglomeration, outside it should always be marked.

  29. There are 2 lanes red takes the right lane and yellow takes the left lane problem solved

  30. Is this at the Carpool Parking in Puurs?

    If I’m not mistaken, the cars coming from the red-side do not have green at the same time, they have a flashing orange when you have green so he has to be very careful entering the crossroad.

  31. Looking from Google street view from Red car prespective, he have the Sign Board: Give way and stop if necessary (inverted triangle) So he needs to give way to the Yellow car.

  32. I pass this crossroad everyday to work. Yellow has priority. Red also does not have a green light, only a flashing yellow one. So they can only enter when it is safe.

  34. Euh, yellow has priority cause red is changing from the right lane to the left lane right?

  35. Looking at the street view with the link OP posted somewhere, red has a B1 priority sign. So yellow has priority.

  36. The way this is designed, it appears red has priority. They should have added sharkteeth where the two roads merge to make it clear that red needs to give way. The earlier give way sign is a bit misleading as one could assume it only applies to the bicycle path.

  37. The fact that a third to half the people are saying red has prio, and that many people are arguing over this, shows how the roads are not designed properly and that this whole yield to the right side bs is bs. Thats whats causing the confusing anyways. I dont want to have to calculate or always keep in mind to yield to the right.

    At intersections without lights, all way stop signs need to be implemented. But that will never happen cuz thats a lot of money to spend + ppl dont wanna change/abolish this rule.

  39. Looking on google maps, priority road only start after that intersection. So red has priority. Although you really shouldn’t be having green at the same time. Or yellow should be required to go to the left lane and red to the right.

  40. Sorry OP you’re right but unfortunately you’ll never feel the satisfaction of knowing the other driver was a) wrong b) an asshole

  41. Regardless of who has green or not, don’t you just need to stay in your lane until after completing a manoeuvre?

    As in, red stays on the right and green on the left until after the crossing. If both do that they can never hit each other.

  43. Yellow, but these are utterly senseless discussions imho and an indication that there is something fundamentally wrong with the mindset of most drivers. The “wegcode” clearly states that ‘every conductor must approach any intersection with caution in order not to endanger others’. Regardless of the priority rules. Who even knew that this paragraph is in there? No, instead we frustrate ourselves about the behavior of others and start discussions whether who´s in his right or not. “Hoffelijkheid” en anticipating the mistakes of other drivers? Nada, and for what? 10 seconds of time saved?

  46. My first reaction was “the one with the biggest car”.

    After having had a closer look, me, in yellow, would have stopped to let the other one go. It’s not worth messing up my day. If I had been in red, same same.

    I don’t care who is right or wrong. Life’s too short.

  47. Ah N16! Same with turning to the right at those lights. Nobody seems to know.

    Edit: typo

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