Wow, who would have thought that ignoring big concerns of citizens (immigration) would result in the far-right getting more votes??
Ignoring mass immigration and Islamists and massive eco inflation would cause citizens to look for a new direction.
far right kinda lost its meaning
Except in Denmark. Where the social-democrats made limiting migration a focus of their policies and now they’re the biggest party.
Oh and they’re left wing.
Maybe curbing migration isn’t really right or left wing. Just common sense.
Here in the Netherlands, mainly due to ignoring migration as a factor, the social-democrats + greens only have 16% of the vote. Populists have 35%.
In Denmark social Democrats have 26%, greens 10% and populists 10%. I’m very jealous.
Our populism goes hand in hand with supporting Russia and other very incompetent policies.
But migration is a huge issue.
We have 3x the population density yet no opt-ours on EU migration treaties like Denmark and no laws to regulate migration yet.
Our population grew by more than 500.000 more than projected 10 years ago. And it takes 10 years to build a house from planning stage to new house.
50% of new housing is for population growth and population growth is 100% due to migration surplus. Natural growth last year was -10.000.
This means we have an enormous internal population shift towards people with a migrant background which imo is a big experiment in social cohesion. Yet only 11% of the population wants the population to grow at all. What a mess.
And until this election, regulating migration was seen as racist by most parties. And right now still by every left-wing party.
The world is getting dumber so reasonable that Europe is too
Not surprising given the Russia propaganda. The right wing wants to turn us into a shithole like Russia
Reading these comments is kind of wild as someone not from Europe, just a couple of years ago saying any of these would get you called a Nazi, but now they get lots of upvotes, have things changed that quickly?
The major issue with a lot of these parties is their idiotic Russia-friendly stance. The same people that argued that European countries are becoming too weak are now telling us that we should just let Putin do his thing.
In many countries there is such a void for a rational, conservative pro-EU party with a tough migration policy but nobody seems to be able to fill it.
Mass 3rd world migration. Women, lgbt and the working poor will suffer the most.
What can I do to protect myself and my family from them?
God forbid a voter has a mind of his own
There was a viral video in Spain of a migrant from north africa stealing in a supermarket and being agresive. An also migrant security guard (black) reduced him in a rather spectacular way.
Well, in the comment section, the left was asking to fire the security guard, called him racist (WTF?) and basically argue that the criminal should have been left alone as he was in a “vulnerable” situation.
It was the right defending the black guard.
And yes, the guard got fired.
Our pensions are fucked by the way.
Oh jeez maybe sending jobs overseas for 3 decades, deindustrialisation in the name of democracy, continued mass migration are reasonable grounds for a “far-right takeover of Europe”
Just like Putin planned and wanted.
And Orban will be its undisputed leader.
People voye for parties that promise them beneficial changes, democracy in action :pikachu_face:
Right-wing governments have never lead to anything better in the long term, but sure maybe it will be different THIS time
Fkn hell main stream EU parties gotta be the dumbest organizations in the world. This idiot could have stopped the rightwing rise simply by stopping migration. And the left…instead of doing their job of fighting for the workers instead got bogged down into identity politics.🤦🤦
If every party started to have an open and honest debate about drastically reducing immigration, people wouldn’t feel so pushed to vote for far-right parties. For many people, it is the #1 issue which swings their vote. Often, the far right are the only ones who promise to significantly curtail it. Especially immigration of Muslims, which people are rapidly turning against.
I’m not anti immigration, anti Muslim or far-right voting. That’s just my observations after talking with my English/European friends about this at length.
These “far-right” views on immigration are rapidly becoming mainstream in many European countries. If the “normal” parties don’t take it seriously, then yes, the far right will rise, which is bad for everyone in the long run.
I am a right leaning voter in a EU country. Though I am not by any means on the level of marine le pen or some others in the same category.
I was against expanding EU power from the start, but when I tried arguingwith leftleaning people about It Always fell on deaf ears.
Why would you not want power drawn to the EU? Because someday the powers might shift and then you have given your enemy those powers instead.
The left is about to learn why centralization of power is really bad, and everyone in your is going to pay for that lesson.
And it’s inevitable that they will be in power soon. And perhaps change the EU from within. That’s what happens when you ignore the will of the people and keep letting in military aged men from regions that despise us. Of course you can’t forget when you talk about it. You get branded as a Nazi
I hear from my friends currently in the country of germanistan that Turks there would vote the most leftist politician imaginable then vote Erdogan for Türkiye
Uh oh
Far-right lol everything is far-right these days.
The result of 50 years of unrestricted (muslim) immigration.
Didn’t even make 100 years mark before things started turning Nazi again.
Good. We’ve all been suffereing under far-left delirium. Time for a change
Xenophobia never goes out of style.
That happens when you let everyone in. At some point people are fed up from living in fear.
The thing is, it’s marketing. Migration is not a *real* problem.
Poverty is. And wages that don’t keep up with inflation.
Both issues are, if not outrightly caused by, at least exasperated by law making right wing parties and their policies.
Crying “bad foreigners” is just a ruse to make the more easily scared and more easily fooled part of the population vote for them.
Yup. Just check this sub out
Scary shit. These people will declare war on anything that not on their agenda… bye bye climate targets, bye bye nature protection. Sad time we live in
This sub: “bUt WhAt Do tHey ExpEcT”
Except in Spain, Poland, Denmark, Slovenia, Estonia etc.
Some countries go left wing, some countries go right wing. There is no “right wing takeover”
I’ve been screaming this from the Mountain top for over 10 years. Right wing populist parties will take over the entire world if something isn’t done about wealth disparity, corporate greed and highest lvl corruption aka lobby.
Things have gone from bad to worse, and ofcourse people are seeking alternatives.
The uper echallonns of society are wondering why there are so many nutt-jobs believing in all sorts of conspiracy theories and why is the right wing gaining more and more ground.
The answer is literally staring back at them from the mirror.
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Wow, who would have thought that ignoring big concerns of citizens (immigration) would result in the far-right getting more votes??
Ignoring mass immigration and Islamists and massive eco inflation would cause citizens to look for a new direction.
far right kinda lost its meaning
Except in Denmark. Where the social-democrats made limiting migration a focus of their policies and now they’re the biggest party.
Oh and they’re left wing.
Maybe curbing migration isn’t really right or left wing. Just common sense.
Here in the Netherlands, mainly due to ignoring migration as a factor, the social-democrats + greens only have 16% of the vote. Populists have 35%.
In Denmark social Democrats have 26%, greens 10% and populists 10%. I’m very jealous.
Our populism goes hand in hand with supporting Russia and other very incompetent policies.
But migration is a huge issue.
We have 3x the population density yet no opt-ours on EU migration treaties like Denmark and no laws to regulate migration yet.
Our population grew by more than 500.000 more than projected 10 years ago. And it takes 10 years to build a house from planning stage to new house.
50% of new housing is for population growth and population growth is 100% due to migration surplus. Natural growth last year was -10.000.
This means we have an enormous internal population shift towards people with a migrant background which imo is a big experiment in social cohesion. Yet only 11% of the population wants the population to grow at all. What a mess.
And until this election, regulating migration was seen as racist by most parties. And right now still by every left-wing party.
The world is getting dumber so reasonable that Europe is too
Not surprising given the Russia propaganda. The right wing wants to turn us into a shithole like Russia
Reading these comments is kind of wild as someone not from Europe, just a couple of years ago saying any of these would get you called a Nazi, but now they get lots of upvotes, have things changed that quickly?
The major issue with a lot of these parties is their idiotic Russia-friendly stance. The same people that argued that European countries are becoming too weak are now telling us that we should just let Putin do his thing.
In many countries there is such a void for a rational, conservative pro-EU party with a tough migration policy but nobody seems to be able to fill it.
Mass 3rd world migration. Women, lgbt and the working poor will suffer the most.
What can I do to protect myself and my family from them?
God forbid a voter has a mind of his own
There was a viral video in Spain of a migrant from north africa stealing in a supermarket and being agresive. An also migrant security guard (black) reduced him in a rather spectacular way.
Well, in the comment section, the left was asking to fire the security guard, called him racist (WTF?) and basically argue that the criminal should have been left alone as he was in a “vulnerable” situation.
It was the right defending the black guard.
And yes, the guard got fired.
Our pensions are fucked by the way.
Oh jeez maybe sending jobs overseas for 3 decades, deindustrialisation in the name of democracy, continued mass migration are reasonable grounds for a “far-right takeover of Europe”
Just like Putin planned and wanted.
And Orban will be its undisputed leader.
People voye for parties that promise them beneficial changes, democracy in action :pikachu_face:
Right-wing governments have never lead to anything better in the long term, but sure maybe it will be different THIS time
Fkn hell main stream EU parties gotta be the dumbest organizations in the world. This idiot could have stopped the rightwing rise simply by stopping migration. And the left…instead of doing their job of fighting for the workers instead got bogged down into identity politics.🤦🤦
If every party started to have an open and honest debate about drastically reducing immigration, people wouldn’t feel so pushed to vote for far-right parties. For many people, it is the #1 issue which swings their vote. Often, the far right are the only ones who promise to significantly curtail it. Especially immigration of Muslims, which people are rapidly turning against.
I’m not anti immigration, anti Muslim or far-right voting. That’s just my observations after talking with my English/European friends about this at length.
These “far-right” views on immigration are rapidly becoming mainstream in many European countries. If the “normal” parties don’t take it seriously, then yes, the far right will rise, which is bad for everyone in the long run.
I am a right leaning voter in a EU country. Though I am not by any means on the level of marine le pen or some others in the same category.
I was against expanding EU power from the start, but when I tried arguingwith leftleaning people about It Always fell on deaf ears.
Why would you not want power drawn to the EU? Because someday the powers might shift and then you have given your enemy those powers instead.
The left is about to learn why centralization of power is really bad, and everyone in your is going to pay for that lesson.
And it’s inevitable that they will be in power soon. And perhaps change the EU from within. That’s what happens when you ignore the will of the people and keep letting in military aged men from regions that despise us. Of course you can’t forget when you talk about it. You get branded as a Nazi
I hear from my friends currently in the country of germanistan that Turks there would vote the most leftist politician imaginable then vote Erdogan for Türkiye
Uh oh
Far-right lol everything is far-right these days.
The result of 50 years of unrestricted (muslim) immigration.
Didn’t even make 100 years mark before things started turning Nazi again.
Good. We’ve all been suffereing under far-left delirium. Time for a change
Xenophobia never goes out of style.
That happens when you let everyone in. At some point people are fed up from living in fear.
The thing is, it’s marketing. Migration is not a *real* problem.
Poverty is. And wages that don’t keep up with inflation.
Both issues are, if not outrightly caused by, at least exasperated by law making right wing parties and their policies.
Crying “bad foreigners” is just a ruse to make the more easily scared and more easily fooled part of the population vote for them.
Yup. Just check this sub out
Scary shit. These people will declare war on anything that not on their agenda… bye bye climate targets, bye bye nature protection. Sad time we live in
This sub: “bUt WhAt Do tHey ExpEcT”
Except in Spain, Poland, Denmark, Slovenia, Estonia etc.
Some countries go left wing, some countries go right wing. There is no “right wing takeover”
I’ve been screaming this from the Mountain top for over 10 years. Right wing populist parties will take over the entire world if something isn’t done about wealth disparity, corporate greed and highest lvl corruption aka lobby.
Things have gone from bad to worse, and ofcourse people are seeking alternatives.
The uper echallonns of society are wondering why there are so many nutt-jobs believing in all sorts of conspiracy theories and why is the right wing gaining more and more ground.
The answer is literally staring back at them from the mirror.
And are you surprised?
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