Or more people simply cant afford to have children.
Besides that there is a lack of housing (with childen you probably need a bigger flat), Kita-places, school-places, doctors etc.
I think Welt (being Springer gutter press in disguise) never heard about a little thing called “regression to the mean”
I think the housing market + war + ecconomically unstable situation + covid pandemic + gender war on the internet etc.
Our fathers would have often 1 stable work threw whole life. Currently a young person is estimated to change work 20-30 times during the lifetime. Lack of stability and cheap housing is the real issue. And this is not only about the Germany, whole Europe looks the same… people are tired, exhausted of working, competing and growing loneliness. Hard times to live in!
This is completely normal and will probably never reverse. **The better we live the less children we have**, there can be local small fluctuations within a few decimal points, but nothing is diverting it massively. E.g. children per woman can be increased by 0.05 if living costs are lower and there are more kindergarten places, but then it will even itself out.
The only way to reverse this trend is if we move back to a full theocracy or have a catastrophe that destroys most of civilization.
The climate in Germany is changing quickly, but I doubt that it’s about temperature.
There are probably a bunch of reasons but insecurity can definitely be a factor…and i don’t think it’s too far fetched that all the crisis lately (including Ukraine war and climate change) are raising the level of feeling insecure in this world.
I actually personally know two women that say, part of the reason that they don’t want kids is, that they don’t see a bright future for them (or humanity in general) because of climate change.
I’m neutral about having kids, but the idea of having to hunt for a bigger apartment in Berlin to accommodate a growing family fills me with dread.
“Many do not ralize their actual desire to have children” – or maybe they have indeed not desire to have children. Could it be possible that women aren’t just birthing machines, Welt?!
It’s part of the reason for us. Cannot bring a kid into the world and explain this war. Especially coming from the neighbour country and explaining our families history. Just because my grandparents have a bit of land, my grandpa was sent to gulag (yeah ruzzians did it) in the most extreme conditions stuffed like animals in pig wagons.
Another reason is also money. It cost lots of money to bring a kid to a good life. I grow up poor and don’t want my kids have the same issues.
“…their actual desire” – what a piece of shit. Maybe they just want to spare their potential children a future of war or a dying planet. How many years until we have to tell our children that there are no more hippos or elephants, that “in the past” you could hear birds in the wild?
I think society has continously progressed without any consideration for “new generations”.
we have endless e-commerce platforms, banking apps, AI-Tools and countless more innovations to enhance our lives, but nothing that makes childcare easier than it was 50 years ago (I was not there, but I assume).
quite the opposite, the cost of living space and “basic needs” require more effort, skill and luck then I could achieve so far in my life.
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Or more people simply cant afford to have children.
Besides that there is a lack of housing (with childen you probably need a bigger flat), Kita-places, school-places, doctors etc.
I think Welt (being Springer gutter press in disguise) never heard about a little thing called “regression to the mean”
I think the housing market + war + ecconomically unstable situation + covid pandemic + gender war on the internet etc.
Our fathers would have often 1 stable work threw whole life. Currently a young person is estimated to change work 20-30 times during the lifetime. Lack of stability and cheap housing is the real issue. And this is not only about the Germany, whole Europe looks the same… people are tired, exhausted of working, competing and growing loneliness. Hard times to live in!
This is completely normal and will probably never reverse. **The better we live the less children we have**, there can be local small fluctuations within a few decimal points, but nothing is diverting it massively. E.g. children per woman can be increased by 0.05 if living costs are lower and there are more kindergarten places, but then it will even itself out.
The only way to reverse this trend is if we move back to a full theocracy or have a catastrophe that destroys most of civilization.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility)
Mh… yeah it’s definitely climate change…
The climate in Germany is changing quickly, but I doubt that it’s about temperature.
There are probably a bunch of reasons but insecurity can definitely be a factor…and i don’t think it’s too far fetched that all the crisis lately (including Ukraine war and climate change) are raising the level of feeling insecure in this world.
I actually personally know two women that say, part of the reason that they don’t want kids is, that they don’t see a bright future for them (or humanity in general) because of climate change.
I’m neutral about having kids, but the idea of having to hunt for a bigger apartment in Berlin to accommodate a growing family fills me with dread.
“Many do not ralize their actual desire to have children” – or maybe they have indeed not desire to have children. Could it be possible that women aren’t just birthing machines, Welt?!
It’s part of the reason for us. Cannot bring a kid into the world and explain this war. Especially coming from the neighbour country and explaining our families history. Just because my grandparents have a bit of land, my grandpa was sent to gulag (yeah ruzzians did it) in the most extreme conditions stuffed like animals in pig wagons.
Another reason is also money. It cost lots of money to bring a kid to a good life. I grow up poor and don’t want my kids have the same issues.
“…their actual desire” – what a piece of shit. Maybe they just want to spare their potential children a future of war or a dying planet. How many years until we have to tell our children that there are no more hippos or elephants, that “in the past” you could hear birds in the wild?
I think society has continously progressed without any consideration for “new generations”.
we have endless e-commerce platforms, banking apps, AI-Tools and countless more innovations to enhance our lives, but nothing that makes childcare easier than it was 50 years ago (I was not there, but I assume).
quite the opposite, the cost of living space and “basic needs” require more effort, skill and luck then I could achieve so far in my life.