I just wanted to know what people thought of the development and the objections. I work in heritage so it's a very polarising subject, but wanted to know the understanding of people not within the industry.
by Extra_Honeydew4661
I just wanted to know what people thought of the development and the objections. I work in heritage so it's a very polarising subject, but wanted to know the understanding of people not within the industry.
by Extra_Honeydew4661
17 comments
The existing station seems very cluttered to me, it doesn’t seem particularly pretty or worthy of keeping in it’s current state to be honest. I’m interested in the finances of it? Will TFL or whoever get rent from the occupants in the building above?
Looks beautiful, reminds me of what they have done with Kings Cross and St Pancras. The station is in dire need of renovation and now that it’s become the busiest station in the capital it should look the part.
I don’t see what the complaints are for, unless I’m misunderstanding the developers ideas. The hotel stays and in actual fact more of that beautiful building will be used by the station, the whetherspoons goes, the facade stays in place and the concourse gets a much needed facelift and they open it up.
I doubt their plans for a public lido on the roof will actually go ahead but any community space they do manage to provide is better than what exists already.
Edit: after looking through it a bit more I guess most people are complaining about the offices being built above the entrance which I can see would anger people but given the area it’s not like the station isn’t already surrounded by high rise offices
Looks disgusting. At this rate all the historical buildings will be gone and the city will look like a Poundland version of Hong Kong.
As someone who used the station mon-fri for about 6 years (pre-pandemic) those plans look like a massive improvement over the dilapidated crap hole it’s been for over a decade. The “train shed” is dark, dingy and feels dirty. The “shops” are all cramped, there are limited to no waiting areas and the flow of people at rush hour is awful. It’s not fit for purpose in it’s current state and the plans preserve the “pretty ironwork” and the brick facades.
While the preservation of heritage is important, LST is a major transport hub and needs to be fit for purpose.
I don’t like that they’re going to demolish part of a grade II listed building, something like that was mentioned the last time it was posted. Can’t remember exactly. Otherwise it’s fine.
For anyone who wants to see the actual planning application, it’s 23/00453/FULEIA on the City of London planning website. [https://www.planning2.cityoflondon.gov.uk/online-applications/search.do?action=advanced](https://www.planning2.cityoflondon.gov.uk/online-applications/search.do?action=advanced)
The actual proposals for the train station seem badly thought out – train stations *need* vaulted ceilings or they feel pokey and unpleasant. I’m not that fussed about whether there’s a building on top of the station shed (it’s not like you can actually see it from the outside very easily) – but making the inside feel like the Kings Cross extension or new London Bridge development feels pretty important.
This article sums it up well: [https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/controversial-plans-push-on-for-massive-office-block-above-liverpool-street-station-66870/](https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/controversial-plans-push-on-for-massive-office-block-above-liverpool-street-station-66870/)
The renders are all nice and white, but that’s a really low ceiling!
I don’t know how anyone could suggest such a sorry new design and take themselves seriously. Like, really, how could you look at the proposed hope square entrance and tell me that’s the work of a person who gives a shit, let alone the work of a high priced architect redeveloping a historic building.
Objections can be sent here
https://www.planning2.cityoflondon.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=RU4ZSNFH0UJ00
just curious – are they adding any extra platforms or additional rail capacity? what’s the point otherwise?
For anyone commenting how nice the design is, take 2 things into account: 1) the really low ceiling compared to now and 2) the loss of the public train board! People need to see times somewhere
Nimbys gonna nimby
Looks fine. It’s an upgrade which it needs badly. Essentialy the main station for the City. It deserves something better.
It was fine 20 years ago when i first started travelling through. But now it’s dark, dingy and cramped.
I use Liverpool Street daily. I actually don’t think its currently unfit for purpose. Its busy, yes but its a train station/tube station/major hub.
I personally didn’t want the work to go ahead and cause years and years of disruption and closures. Already had that with London Bridge and while platforms 1-6 feel safer, they’re colder and further away from the tube now and the ground floor section is it’s own chaos. So it’s swings and roundabouts.
View from the street is rather bland, and I think the interior spaces would feel less jarring if they weren’t in dazzling white, but otherwise really like this.
Looks cool. 2,000 isn’t many objections at all on the scheme of things.
It looks cool actually, modern design. Not a fan of it having a low ceiling though, keep it open, wide and spacious. Also don’t see the point of another office block.
If it eases congestion with more barriers, looks good and doesn’t have the offices I’m all for it.
Anyone know what happened to the tory plans to improve transport infrastructure round the country? Our council just announced A road bridges won’t be repaired for about a decade.
Having the misery of using Liverpool everyday, I’d take function over form in this case.
The flow of people out of the tube and Elizabeth lines is abysmal. It’s like a scrum at rush hour.
The train shed doesn’t have anywhere near enough gates, the roof leaks like a sieve every time it rains and the smell of the rubbish next to platform 8 in summer would make a bin mans nose twitch.
There’s a complete lack of waiting areas and seats, access down onto the concourse is no where near adequate and the disabled access even worse. The upper balcony level isn’t utilised at all and the toilets, good god the toilets. Last week you needed wellies to use the men’s.
I’m all for saving heritage buildings but you can’t save it for the sake of saving it. It needs to work as a train station for now and the future. Admittedly during the works, the station would be like hell.
I do wonder how many of the 2000 odd that complained actually use the station regularly