Watching the committee on RTE NewsNow and clear enough nothings going to happen quickly.
Alternative statement from two members who have concerns due shortly.
The general outline seems very reasonable.
But I’d expect there will be a reluctance among medical practitioners to provide these services.
Yeah, come on..I’ve a fairly substantial sum of money waiting for me when this is brought in..
Legal Euthanasia before legal weed, only Ireland can do it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
we just want you to build some houses
“vote about sexist constitution?”
we just want you to build some houses
“euthanasia?”
WE JUST WANT YOU TO BUILD-
Witnessed my mother suffer for six years when they always expressed a wish that they could have gone via assisted dying/suicide. The toll it put on everyone was hard, but mostly my poor mother who was in constant pain and got progressively worse over those six years. If the same condition were to befall me I’d welcome the option.
With the right safeguards this should be opened with welcome arms. It works everywhere it has been introduced, so no reason it can’t happen here.
Anyone who has seen or dealt with people dealing with dementia will vote for this instantly and easily. There’s going to be the usual scare mongers (already started with their campaign, tbh), but we treat animals better than we do people who have long since lost the ability to be human.
The same Holy Joe crowd are going to be against this. Watch this space.
It’s a move in the right direction but I personally don’t feel their recommendations go far enough.
By the time my grandmother finished dying from stomach cancer, she had gone from a strong willed determined person to a biological machine that drank “food”, shat it out and screamed all the while whenever the morphine levels dipped too low.
That isn’t life, it’s horror.
I think a lot of people would like the option. Is there any reason it wouldn’t work in Ireland?
Good. I’ve MS, if it gets so bad I want to end it, I would prefer to do it in a comfortable legal fashion!
So drugs will only be legal if I want to die….
Did the committee of TDs specify how I would die and over how many years?
Of course it should be legal.
I had to put my 18 year old cat to sleep when he developed cancer, it was incredibly difficult having to be the one to make that decision but the alternative was watching him suffer on for however long.
My grandfather suffered for years with Parkinson’s before he died, we had no choice but to watch as he basically faded away.
Animals have more rights in this area than humans do.
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This would be welcome. Anyone who has seen prologued suffering from debilitating illness will agree that this is the humane route for us to take.
Just a note on how “progressive” this is. In Canada, a recent poll showed 30% of people would like the grounds for accessing assisted dying to be expanded to include poor people and the homeless. People who accessed assisted dying also cited being poor as a reason for choosing to die, and others cited fear of being a burden on society.
Perfect! Can the TDs and senators be the first to use it??
Sounds good on the surface but this has the potential to be so abused by self interested individuals who want to ‘convince’ a family member to shuffle on so they can inherit.
The legislation and provision of services would want to be airtight around this.
Edit: lol. Downvotes already for pointing out that this legislation, if not properly written and enforced could be abused! How do people find fault with absolutely common sense, middle of the road positions? This sub sometimes, ffs 🤦♂️
I disagree. The state will take any opportunity it can to cut costs. If this goes through, restrictions will be relaxed or interpreted liberally, and thousands will die for the sake of a balance sheet.
This is great. I said it before, no one should suffer.
Did I hear right that Healy Rae Is against it?
Damn right.
I can’t find it. But there was a case with a man who had a motor neurone disease but if sound mind who went to the high court 3 times because he just wanted to. Die at home and was tired of the lack of care provided by the state and the effects it had on his wife.
My mom has worked in elderly care for almost 40 years. She is very much for it. When an elderly person is close to death, unless the person is in distress or pain. they normally call the family and let the person pass peacefully with the family as opposed to calling the ambulance who will just unnecessarily prolong the process
saying extreme suffering is “god’s will” is bollocks
Whatever you think about this issue please take the opportunity to talk to your loved ones about how they want to be treated if they’re no longer in a position to make decisions for themselves. Encourage them to make a proper will (and make sure you have one too). Death is something that we rarely talk about but will all experience.
The hospice foundation has a great form that can spell out some of the things that you might never think to ask your parents.
The person has to do it themselves. They need to have the entire process recorded ensuring they wanted to go through with it the whole way and only for people with no hope of survival. If anything is not above board the entire group of doctors etc involved must never see the outside of a cell again or better yet a pine box.
These types of laws are being abused in every country they have been put on the books so without serious protections to ensure that wont happen then anyone who supports it can fuck right off.
Yeah I don’t understand why we torture humans but animals are put out of their pain. Watching someone you love struggle in pain is awful
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Watching the committee on RTE NewsNow and clear enough nothings going to happen quickly.
Alternative statement from two members who have concerns due shortly.
The general outline seems very reasonable.
But I’d expect there will be a reluctance among medical practitioners to provide these services.
Yeah, come on..I’ve a fairly substantial sum of money waiting for me when this is brought in..
Legal Euthanasia before legal weed, only Ireland can do it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
we just want you to build some houses
“vote about sexist constitution?”
we just want you to build some houses
“euthanasia?”
WE JUST WANT YOU TO BUILD-
Witnessed my mother suffer for six years when they always expressed a wish that they could have gone via assisted dying/suicide. The toll it put on everyone was hard, but mostly my poor mother who was in constant pain and got progressively worse over those six years. If the same condition were to befall me I’d welcome the option.
With the right safeguards this should be opened with welcome arms. It works everywhere it has been introduced, so no reason it can’t happen here.
Anyone who has seen or dealt with people dealing with dementia will vote for this instantly and easily. There’s going to be the usual scare mongers (already started with their campaign, tbh), but we treat animals better than we do people who have long since lost the ability to be human.
The same Holy Joe crowd are going to be against this. Watch this space.
It’s a move in the right direction but I personally don’t feel their recommendations go far enough.
By the time my grandmother finished dying from stomach cancer, she had gone from a strong willed determined person to a biological machine that drank “food”, shat it out and screamed all the while whenever the morphine levels dipped too low.
That isn’t life, it’s horror.
I think a lot of people would like the option. Is there any reason it wouldn’t work in Ireland?
Good. I’ve MS, if it gets so bad I want to end it, I would prefer to do it in a comfortable legal fashion!
So drugs will only be legal if I want to die….
Did the committee of TDs specify how I would die and over how many years?
Of course it should be legal.
I had to put my 18 year old cat to sleep when he developed cancer, it was incredibly difficult having to be the one to make that decision but the alternative was watching him suffer on for however long.
My grandfather suffered for years with Parkinson’s before he died, we had no choice but to watch as he basically faded away.
Animals have more rights in this area than humans do.
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This would be welcome. Anyone who has seen prologued suffering from debilitating illness will agree that this is the humane route for us to take.
Just a note on how “progressive” this is. In Canada, a recent poll showed 30% of people would like the grounds for accessing assisted dying to be expanded to include poor people and the homeless. People who accessed assisted dying also cited being poor as a reason for choosing to die, and others cited fear of being a burden on society.
Perfect! Can the TDs and senators be the first to use it??
Sounds good on the surface but this has the potential to be so abused by self interested individuals who want to ‘convince’ a family member to shuffle on so they can inherit.
The legislation and provision of services would want to be airtight around this.
Edit: lol. Downvotes already for pointing out that this legislation, if not properly written and enforced could be abused! How do people find fault with absolutely common sense, middle of the road positions? This sub sometimes, ffs 🤦♂️
I disagree. The state will take any opportunity it can to cut costs. If this goes through, restrictions will be relaxed or interpreted liberally, and thousands will die for the sake of a balance sheet.
This is great. I said it before, no one should suffer.
Did I hear right that Healy Rae Is against it?
Damn right.
I can’t find it. But there was a case with a man who had a motor neurone disease but if sound mind who went to the high court 3 times because he just wanted to. Die at home and was tired of the lack of care provided by the state and the effects it had on his wife.
My mom has worked in elderly care for almost 40 years. She is very much for it. When an elderly person is close to death, unless the person is in distress or pain. they normally call the family and let the person pass peacefully with the family as opposed to calling the ambulance who will just unnecessarily prolong the process
saying extreme suffering is “god’s will” is bollocks
Whatever you think about this issue please take the opportunity to talk to your loved ones about how they want to be treated if they’re no longer in a position to make decisions for themselves. Encourage them to make a proper will (and make sure you have one too). Death is something that we rarely talk about but will all experience.
The hospice foundation has a great form that can spell out some of the things that you might never think to ask your parents.
https://hospicefoundation.ie/i-need-help/i-want-to-think-ahead/get-my-think-ahead-planning-pack/
The person has to do it themselves. They need to have the entire process recorded ensuring they wanted to go through with it the whole way and only for people with no hope of survival. If anything is not above board the entire group of doctors etc involved must never see the outside of a cell again or better yet a pine box.
These types of laws are being abused in every country they have been put on the books so without serious protections to ensure that wont happen then anyone who supports it can fuck right off.
Yeah I don’t understand why we torture humans but animals are put out of their pain. Watching someone you love struggle in pain is awful