Boomer is unhappy that his bad behaviour has consequences.
Cant wait for that generation to die out.
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Sooo, the right has been scaring people about “teachers being fired for using wrong pronouns” and everyone deemed it a scarecrow. And now it actually happens.
> aged 17
> children who are unable to make an informed decision
what a twat
>”Why are we not allowed to question why a student is presenting in the opposite sex?
well actually it’s none of your business.
I hate this generation so much, no one cares about your pronouns or if you identify as a main battle tank, deal with it. Ruining the life of a person making him lose his income to live and eat over such a stupidity is crazy.
I don’t know if it’s common in English speaking countries, but in Spain in the past teachers used to use the last name instead of the students name, sometimes without Mr/Miss. May be we have to forget names in school as last names don’t have gender. Problem solved 😉
We all have to grovel to people with identity crisis now
Dystopia
I miss the good ol days when we could still agree to disagree.
Based honestly, transphobes get btfo
We did the same here in Ireland and it kept escalating, even after being dismissed the teacher still continued to show up eventually triggering a set of events that say him being imprisoned
I have a feeling this reason for firing is going to selectively be used to rid schools of staff who should have been fired for other shit ages ago
Headline doesn’t tell the full story.
The student had let the school know their preferred pronouns a year prior to the incident. The teacher received an email from the student expressing their desire to be referred to by their new name/pronouns after said teacher used their old name. After receiving the email the teacher flagged this as a safeguarding concern and tried to link their declining academic grades to the transition.
A 17 year old student at college (likely going to university next year) is not a child unable to make an informed decision.
> “It is not the role of a maths teacher to confirm the gender transition and social transition of a student.”
Which is why he decided to use his position as a math teacher to firmly enforce a gender on a student?
This whole “it isn’t my job to deal with gender stuff” sounds very hollow when he made it an active choice to decide to mingle in the gender of a student. Perhaps he should have just stuck to teaching maths instead of being the gender police?
>Mr Lister added: “I took issue with the demand on me to socially transition children who are unable to make an informed decision.
TIL 17 year olds are children.
But seriously the guy got fired more over the insane/weird rant than anything else
Also of course it happened in TERF Island. It was the last surprising part of the article
It’s always the people who “don’t give a shit about your pronouns” that make a big fuss about what pronouns they have the right to call other people
What if one day some student decide to ask to be called „his royal highness“ because thats his preferred pronouns? Or Megatron 2087.
The world used to be so simple just 15 years ago.
This teacher wasn’t even willing to call the child by name
This is a tiring debate, really. This teacher was kicked out for mobbing a pupil
Mobbing pupils as a teacher is bad, period. People whining about muh evil gender ideology in the comments here are missing the plot and simply show off their intolerance
Very based. Good riddance.
The BBC article mentions the bare basics.
The teacher was fired not because he refused to use the student’s pronouns, but because the collage has a policy in place of respecting social transitions. The teacher knowingly broke that policy, because he considered it to be illegal. The teacher not only refused to use pronouns, but in multiple instances referred to the trans male student as a “girl”, a “young woman”, said he could enter a maths girls’ competition because “you are a girl” and used his dead name.
I betcha these are just a couple of many many more.
The teacher didn’t get fired just because they refused to use the students pronouns once or twice, as the headline paints it. This was a constant, over a period of months, abject refusal to respect the social transition of a student, actively attempting to undermine it.
The teacher was acting maliciously against a student, actively and knowingly causing emotional distress to him.
Who knew the europe sub was filled with conservatives
I really dont understand this whole debacle. Pronouns this pronouns that, just use someone’s last name or first name if you can’t bear to use their desired pronoun.
Hell I’ll admit it first, it is fucking weird, i have no fucking idea why they/them xe/xer exists or what does it mean in respect to a person who wants everyone to use those pronouns, fuck it i’ll even call it absurd.
But i can still act respectful, its their fucking choice, it hurts absolutely noone and apparently it makes them happy. And i like to make people happy, especially when its so lo effort.
This is f-ck-ng ridiculous, ruining people’s livelihoods over the anti-scientific, gramatically wrong delusions of a few. I thought teachers were supposed to correct students when they are wrong? Now they get fired…
I don’t find it difficult to call people whatever they ask to be called.
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Boomer is unhappy that his bad behaviour has consequences.
Cant wait for that generation to die out.
[deleted]
Sooo, the right has been scaring people about “teachers being fired for using wrong pronouns” and everyone deemed it a scarecrow. And now it actually happens.
> aged 17
> children who are unable to make an informed decision
what a twat
>”Why are we not allowed to question why a student is presenting in the opposite sex?
well actually it’s none of your business.
I hate this generation so much, no one cares about your pronouns or if you identify as a main battle tank, deal with it. Ruining the life of a person making him lose his income to live and eat over such a stupidity is crazy.
I don’t know if it’s common in English speaking countries, but in Spain in the past teachers used to use the last name instead of the students name, sometimes without Mr/Miss. May be we have to forget names in school as last names don’t have gender. Problem solved 😉
We all have to grovel to people with identity crisis now
Dystopia
I miss the good ol days when we could still agree to disagree.
Based honestly, transphobes get btfo
We did the same here in Ireland and it kept escalating, even after being dismissed the teacher still continued to show up eventually triggering a set of events that say him being imprisoned
I have a feeling this reason for firing is going to selectively be used to rid schools of staff who should have been fired for other shit ages ago
Headline doesn’t tell the full story.
The student had let the school know their preferred pronouns a year prior to the incident. The teacher received an email from the student expressing their desire to be referred to by their new name/pronouns after said teacher used their old name. After receiving the email the teacher flagged this as a safeguarding concern and tried to link their declining academic grades to the transition.
A 17 year old student at college (likely going to university next year) is not a child unable to make an informed decision.
> “It is not the role of a maths teacher to confirm the gender transition and social transition of a student.”
Which is why he decided to use his position as a math teacher to firmly enforce a gender on a student?
This whole “it isn’t my job to deal with gender stuff” sounds very hollow when he made it an active choice to decide to mingle in the gender of a student. Perhaps he should have just stuck to teaching maths instead of being the gender police?
>Mr Lister added: “I took issue with the demand on me to socially transition children who are unable to make an informed decision.
TIL 17 year olds are children.
But seriously the guy got fired more over the insane/weird rant than anything else
Also of course it happened in TERF Island. It was the last surprising part of the article
It’s always the people who “don’t give a shit about your pronouns” that make a big fuss about what pronouns they have the right to call other people
This whole thing reminds me of a court case about a person insisting on being referred to a certain way: https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/sep/26
Also, https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/12/198012536/summer-of-1963-miss-mary-hamilton
What if one day some student decide to ask to be called „his royal highness“ because thats his preferred pronouns? Or Megatron 2087.
The world used to be so simple just 15 years ago.
This teacher wasn’t even willing to call the child by name
This is a tiring debate, really. This teacher was kicked out for mobbing a pupil
Mobbing pupils as a teacher is bad, period. People whining about muh evil gender ideology in the comments here are missing the plot and simply show off their intolerance
Very based. Good riddance.
The BBC article mentions the bare basics.
The teacher was fired not because he refused to use the student’s pronouns, but because the collage has a policy in place of respecting social transitions. The teacher knowingly broke that policy, because he considered it to be illegal. The teacher not only refused to use pronouns, but in multiple instances referred to the trans male student as a “girl”, a “young woman”, said he could enter a maths girls’ competition because “you are a girl” and used his dead name.
And that’s just the few examples listed in https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/kevin-lister-transgender-pronouns-teacher-b2515054.html
I betcha these are just a couple of many many more.
The teacher didn’t get fired just because they refused to use the students pronouns once or twice, as the headline paints it. This was a constant, over a period of months, abject refusal to respect the social transition of a student, actively attempting to undermine it.
The teacher was acting maliciously against a student, actively and knowingly causing emotional distress to him.
Who knew the europe sub was filled with conservatives
I really dont understand this whole debacle. Pronouns this pronouns that, just use someone’s last name or first name if you can’t bear to use their desired pronoun.
Hell I’ll admit it first, it is fucking weird, i have no fucking idea why they/them xe/xer exists or what does it mean in respect to a person who wants everyone to use those pronouns, fuck it i’ll even call it absurd.
But i can still act respectful, its their fucking choice, it hurts absolutely noone and apparently it makes them happy. And i like to make people happy, especially when its so lo effort.
This is f-ck-ng ridiculous, ruining people’s livelihoods over the anti-scientific, gramatically wrong delusions of a few. I thought teachers were supposed to correct students when they are wrong? Now they get fired…
I don’t find it difficult to call people whatever they ask to be called.