In 1941, the Soviet troops dynamited Dnieper Hydroelectric Station. This resulted in 20.000-100.000 civilian deaths by some estimates.

by ArthRol

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  1. Cost of life in Russia and USSR is approximately 0

    Mothers will make more!

  2. Interesting…maybe there was some event that caused the Soviets to do this? Nah, they probably did it just because they’re so evil.

  3. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/02/second-world-war-dnieper-dam-blown-up-by-russians-1941](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/02/second-world-war-dnieper-dam-blown-up-by-russians-1941)

    Only some crazy conspiracy theorist would believe it… The Guardian sheds light on it: They did it to slow down the advancement of the Nazi

    The Russians have blown up the Dnieper dam at Zaporizhzhia, which feeds the [Dneprostroi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station) power plant, and have evacuated Dnepropetrovsk, the great industrial centre of Ukraine. Mr Lozovsky, the Soviet spokesman, told the press last night:

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  4. Last year they blew up Kakhovka dam, no need to go back to 1941

  5. Relatively minor example of soviet WW2 crimes against civilian population.

    @ During Blitzkrieg Moscow officials became so scared, that ordered to stop Nazis by any possible means, and consider as a traitor anyone who doesn’t execute such “any possible means.”

    Because of this, during retreat, soviet army began to burn up all food and fuel stocks, and sometimes even entire villages and towns (only by official documents – >100). Constantly creating 20 kilometers scorched earth buffer zone.

    And what wasn’t burned by army – later was burned by partisans (in Belarus they also destroyed all transport that move through occupied transport routes).

    All of this, in still under-urbanized USSR, lead to an enormous number of deaths from hunger and cold. Much bigger number than during siege of Leningrad (~632,000), during which USSR also could supply city with grain (75% of USSR pre-war grain export go to Germany), but because deficit of it and risk of German’s breakthrough, decided that it wasn’t worth it.

    @ Something similar was also with Gulag. Because until the war USSR supplied too much resources to the Nazis (during 18 months of 1940-1941 years USSR supplied up to 85% of Nazi Germany import) during 2 first years of war it has extremely scarce warehouse stocks. Therefore, as much as it could, USSR saved on Gulag and prisons residents. Which lead to ~1 million deaths.

    @ In 1939-1945, the Germans executed 7,810 military personnel. During WW2, only according to military tribunals verdicts, USSR shot down 153,000 people, sentenced to death 284,344 people, and “departed to the NKVD” 594,000 (which also was death sentence). All USA losses during WW2 – 419,400 people.

    @ During liberation of territories, soviet officers very often used “off-list mobilization.” They mobilize civil population, then, outright, without training, almost without weapons and medical assistance, spent them on near German machine guns and mines. And only when such people survived few “baptisms by fire”, transferred information about them further to commandant’s offices. All “listed/accounted resources” was state property, therefore any hints on their overspending created risk of various careerists attention (including snitch subordinates), tribunal, and getting into penal battalions. When use of “free of charge” young local population radically reduced such risk.

    @ In 1945 year USSR, for the sake of political status, wanted at any cost take over Berlin first, therefore over-spent on it hundreds of thousands of lives.

    @ By Polish government estimates, during “liberation” soviet soldiers raped ~100,000 Polish women.

    @ Up to 2 million of German women were raped (including children), not to say about plunder. When some say that soviet army had at least some “moral rights” to rape up to 2 million women, ~240,000 of which afterward died, and ~10,000 rape to death, it also shows how much USSR was different from Americans and British.

    And so on.

    One of biggest misconception of WW2 that until 1941 year there was Stalin’s repressions, but then has begun WW2 war. With completely other officials, goals, morals, and so on.

    But in reality during WW2 on soviet territories was and war, and continuation of Stalin’s repressions. Because both were carried out by the same people who carried out 1920-1930s repressions, executions, famines, relocations, wars, forced labor, etc.

  6. According to historian Vladimir Linikov, the flooding claimed the lives of about 3 thousand people. In modern literature there are estimates that as a result of the flooding, from 20 to 100 thousand people could have died, but the methodology of these estimates has been criticized as insufficiently substantiated.

    http://porohy.org/history/dniproges-chornyj-serpen-1941-roku/

    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F

    https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-65828501

    https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-64868324

    All on Russian but i hope you can use Google translate.

  7. Какую только чушь не прочитаешь в этом сабреддите 😁

  8. Who needs context on this sub, right? They dynamited it because they’re evil. Such a deceiving way to present terrible tragedies.

    > In 1945, the Americans and British troops firebombed Dresden. This resulted in 25.000-200.000 civilian deaths by some estimates.

    See? Can you guess what assumptions would be made by someone who is not aware of this event.

    I’m against this sub becoming a copy of Russia Today that shamelessly pours half-truths and manipulates its readers.

  9. What else was going on in 1941 on Soviet grounds? Yes, i remember. Germans killing and burning everything in sight.

  10. Im not sure why people are so impressed by this. You people dont understand morality is a luxury.

  11. In 1938 Chiang Kai Shek ordered the destruction of the dams along the Yellow River, directly killing tens of thousands and resulting in the deaths of perhaps hundreds of thousands from famine and disease.

    Yet it also halted the Japanese advance deeper into the country. They could not advance past the flooded areas, and the flooding also destroyed much of their supply lines. Along with the heavy casualties the Japanese sustained at the Battle of Wuhan around the same time, it forced the end of major Japanese expansion into China. Japan would not mount a major offensive in the country until Operation Ichi-Go in 1944.

    War is brutal, and sometimes you need to make tough choices. Hundreds of thousands died so that 200 million could live.

  12. War crimes are an integral part of Russian doctrine.

  13. Russia. Murdering its own people en masse (and anyone else it can grab) for as long as it’s been around.

  14. The only atrocity 1941-1945 in the USSR r/europe has a problem with: a military decision to slow down the genocidal enemy. This is in a war where the Nazis killed 30 million in eastern europe. If the USSR and Nazi germany where ”as bad” shouldnt there be an equal attention to both? Instead the Nazis are only ever mentioned in passing unless they are being praised in the case of Ukrainian and Baltic collaborators.

  15. Tell you something about how they are stuck in the past. Fucking Neanderthals

  16. You will see the spitefulness of a government in the way they treat political, military, prisoners.

    Bataan Death March, Ethnic cleansing are all symptoms of widespread temper sickness.

    Some bullies feel like they’re entitled to bully others people because of who they are. Like it’s a constitutional or God given right to kill in the name of misplaced anger. No this isn’t right.

    The enemy of spitefulness is inside each of us and some can’t control it.

    To understand who the enemy you must understand the difference between someone who blames others for the misery their anger brings them and normal people.

    Can you imagine a unchangeable government and a army that blames all of you for all the problems their anger and mistrust causes them. None of you would be safe from them.

    All NATO Allies must understand and learn how to heal the people blinded by their tempers. How can anyone negotiate with someone who has a lifetime of temper issues and spitefulness for all of you and themselves.

    We, can’t.

    The symptoms of spitefulness.

    Spiteful individuals engage in actions that cause harm or inconvenience to others, often with no apparent personal benefit. Lack of Empathy: They display a marked lack of empathy or concern for the feelings and well-being of others, disregarding the impact of their actions or blaming their victims.

    I wouldn’t want to be like them.

  17. Fuck Russia. Imagine trying to establish this vulgar way of life .putin and his followers will burn in hell

  18. No it was to stop the advancing German army. So it’s reasonable

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