“Hey, maybe eat a little less meat since that would benefit the environment as well as your heal-”
“How dare you take my meat away! You want to force everybody to become vegan! Reee!”
I doubt if reduction of meat consumption would have any significant effect. True, meat production is responsible for significant amount of emissions but meat is also more energy efficient. You need to eat more food to get the same amount of calories and proteins if you don’t eat meat.
btw It;s mostly about beef production not “meat production”
the current global meat consumption is simply not compatible with the preservation of our climate, biodiversity and thus survival.
It’s a controversial issue because people generally dont like change.
But sooner or later each and everyone of us must reckognize that the normative power of he factual, the limits of nature, are not to be reasoned with.
Reducing the overproduction of meat for export, in some places the import of industrially produced meat is dumping local producers who in this case have sustainable practices with considerable help from international chain stores. Absolute stop imports of meat and livestock products from unsustainable and threatening ecosystems such as Brazil. If it is not necessary not to import meat from major European exporters, I will not mention which ones. For the most part, European countries have a lot of meatless dishes, and over-consumption can reduce over-consumption of meat, the big problem being large companies with industrial meat production with market dominance and profit generation. The plan that some greens imagine will only lead to the disappearance of small, medium-sized farms and cooperatives with more sustainable practices, and will leave the big players on the market who will supply us with the meat we need 2-3 days a week. If I do not count the already existing very tasty meatless dishes, for me personally, increasing the share of imitations of meat products and substitutes will not change anything, but will also add the need for additional resources for their production.
The point of meat is that animals can convert something we can’t eat (grass) into something we can (meat).
It gets weird, unhealthy and unsustainable when we feed the grazers grain, soy, and mill byproducts and even ground up animal parts (remember the mad cow scandal?).
So two things can be true. Beef cows can be good for health and carbon sequestration (if they’re kept on natural grazing, keeping a grass ecosystem healthy), or they can be bad for health and release a lot of carbon.
It’s not the what, it’s the how.
How cow? Cow eat grass. Cow roam free. Cow good eating.
Asking people to drop their consumption from 1.5kg to 1kg a week is reasonable. But asking them to go from 1.5kg to 0.45kg… how about you go fuck yourself, that’s like one big or 2 small size peace’s of meat a week, fuck off.
When people on one hand see rich people flying in private planes, riding in massive private yachts, getting tax exemptions on fuel and on other hand being told that they need to stop eating meat and getting slapped by energy prices… this is brewing into major riots all over Europe.
When countries like India get richer and start being able to afford regular meat dishes in detriment of their cheaper vegetarian dishes, who will go there and tell them “no, you can’t eat that now”?
The moment some vegan starts to lecture me about what I should eat I will use ham as a weapon.
A carbon tax would be better. If you don’t drive you have more space for the food.
Honestly eating more red meat than necessary is just well not really good in general either… im not political support of the greenparty but i think the meat consumption at least in western countries is way too big. Since i moved out of my parents house ive noticed that ive eaten much less red meat and added more local berries/vegetables/chicken/fish and it has been better for my health and also for the environment.
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They are called The Greens, not The Meat.
“Hey, maybe eat a little less meat since that would benefit the environment as well as your heal-”
“How dare you take my meat away! You want to force everybody to become vegan! Reee!”
I doubt if reduction of meat consumption would have any significant effect. True, meat production is responsible for significant amount of emissions but meat is also more energy efficient. You need to eat more food to get the same amount of calories and proteins if you don’t eat meat.
btw It;s mostly about beef production not “meat production”
the current global meat consumption is simply not compatible with the preservation of our climate, biodiversity and thus survival.
It’s a controversial issue because people generally dont like change.
But sooner or later each and everyone of us must reckognize that the normative power of he factual, the limits of nature, are not to be reasoned with.
Reducing the overproduction of meat for export, in some places the import of industrially produced meat is dumping local producers who in this case have sustainable practices with considerable help from international chain stores. Absolute stop imports of meat and livestock products from unsustainable and threatening ecosystems such as Brazil. If it is not necessary not to import meat from major European exporters, I will not mention which ones. For the most part, European countries have a lot of meatless dishes, and over-consumption can reduce over-consumption of meat, the big problem being large companies with industrial meat production with market dominance and profit generation. The plan that some greens imagine will only lead to the disappearance of small, medium-sized farms and cooperatives with more sustainable practices, and will leave the big players on the market who will supply us with the meat we need 2-3 days a week. If I do not count the already existing very tasty meatless dishes, for me personally, increasing the share of imitations of meat products and substitutes will not change anything, but will also add the need for additional resources for their production.
The point of meat is that animals can convert something we can’t eat (grass) into something we can (meat).
It gets weird, unhealthy and unsustainable when we feed the grazers grain, soy, and mill byproducts and even ground up animal parts (remember the mad cow scandal?).
So two things can be true. Beef cows can be good for health and carbon sequestration (if they’re kept on natural grazing, keeping a grass ecosystem healthy), or they can be bad for health and release a lot of carbon.
It’s not the what, it’s the how.
How cow? Cow eat grass. Cow roam free. Cow good eating.
Asking people to drop their consumption from 1.5kg to 1kg a week is reasonable. But asking them to go from 1.5kg to 0.45kg… how about you go fuck yourself, that’s like one big or 2 small size peace’s of meat a week, fuck off.
When people on one hand see rich people flying in private planes, riding in massive private yachts, getting tax exemptions on fuel and on other hand being told that they need to stop eating meat and getting slapped by energy prices… this is brewing into major riots all over Europe.
When countries like India get richer and start being able to afford regular meat dishes in detriment of their cheaper vegetarian dishes, who will go there and tell them “no, you can’t eat that now”?
The moment some vegan starts to lecture me about what I should eat I will use ham as a weapon.
A carbon tax would be better. If you don’t drive you have more space for the food.
Honestly eating more red meat than necessary is just well not really good in general either… im not political support of the greenparty but i think the meat consumption at least in western countries is way too big. Since i moved out of my parents house ive noticed that ive eaten much less red meat and added more local berries/vegetables/chicken/fish and it has been better for my health and also for the environment.