Moscow shooting a ‘deliberate provocation by Putin’s special services,’ says Ukraine’s military intelligence

by yorkiecd

33 comments

  1. Wait for Putin to deny, then release the evidence/tapes.

  2. Word is out, on French TV, that the facility belongs to an oligarch (who is close to Trump, apparently) and that this could also be just another mafia infighting, on top of a way to facilitate further mobilization.

  3. No kidding.

    Who does this serve? And who has a proven track record of doing false flag operations against it’s own people to try and rationalize it’s stupid wars.

    Such convenient timing. Days after the russian ‘election’, and just before they announce a new mobilitzation.

  5. Remember when bombs were “planted” around apartments in Moscow. Which eventually led to Putin mobilising troops into the 2nd Chechnya war 🤷‍♂️

  6. Whatever this means, in my opinion Ukraine should start mobilizing en force right now. This smells like 1999 again.

  7. I’m sure Russians will find its ukrainain – ffs! It’s Putin’s play book. Just as the Moscow theatre was ‘attacked and besieged’ by Chechens – but they were released from prison and armed and taken to the site by FSB- aim being to make it easier to declare a war on Chechens…. Here Putin needs 100,000 mobilised for his meatwaves and is struggling now to get enough – having raided the prisons, mobilised guest workers, enticed foreigners from Africa, Nepal, India and Oakistan…. And then mobilised invalids and old age pensioners …. Time to scale things up, what better than a staged terror attack made to look like Ukrainians….. I’m sure they’ll find the vehicle with Ukrainian number plates – because that’s what every terrorist does isn’t it? – use a vehicle that will identify them and have the police stop them at some checkpoint so they can’t achieve their aim.

    Ask yourself – why have all the foreign embassies of USA, UK, EU nations been on alert for weeks? How come they’ve known something was going to happen and the FSB haven’t locked things down? Because the FSB is running this shit show – killing Russians to encourage mobilisation. It’s Putin’s playbook for sure.

  9. UkraineRussiaReport subreddit (the one with all the bots and propagandists) all over this minute by minute including new posters with postings such as “suspect apprehended.”

  10. Just after the election, mind you. When his last even pretend check is gone.

  12. Handily coinciding with the fake elections ‘win’, the war being declared a war, expect general mobilisation asap

  13. If this would be true just bomb the Kremlin to shits.

  14. The video of the shooting taken from above seem entirely sus. Break it down frame by frame, there’s a lot not adding up…from the lack of destruction of a tile and glass interior, no sound of ricochet, the guys are totally casual, one guy doesn’t appear armed, the victims are either completely motionless or not appearing to have a panicked sense of finding shelter or cover, blood is all super red and consistent, the weapons are likely a 7.62… pretty big round, hitting fleshy bony targets can be messy… then they burn the entire complex to the ground… no evidence, remarkable

  15. Surprisingly exactly zero people on planet earth. Everyone saw this one coming a week out or more.

  16. Definitely the way I see it going although Russia has been slow to bring forth the narrative. If it was a false flag you’d think they’d have it all ready to go. 

  19. I guess they’re aware of these people create a vacuum around them so they think that nobody knows and then swoop in when it’s time for a terrorist attack

    A useful idiot… use the narrative for their own purposes

    But I suspect this one caught them off guard and happened early and worse than they wanted.

    Is still a false flag theres so many crazies and fanatics out there you can be selective in the ones to let through and curate the crimes you allow to be committed for your own agenda.

    Still a false flag I guess there’s loads of idiots being used and discarded by intelligence services every day. They’re as psychopathic as the terrorists really.

  20. Even if this attack was not ordered by Putin himself, it was then in all likelyhood planned by one of the many groups Putin hurt over his long, atrocious reign.

    One way or another, Putin is responsible for this.

  21. why would an ISIS offshoot be claiming responsibility for this then? it doesn’t even make sense.

  24. i still think this has the m.o. of a radicalized muslim separatist group. this organization existed before the war and this action has been in the planning for awhile to find and train the people to carry it out by people who want to weaken putin. if putin did fund it, the people who carried it out sincerely hate russia and did it to destablize and weaken putin. you can put the blame on putin for mistreatment of muslims or even indirectly funding islamic terrorist organizations, but i seriously doubt he directed this.

  25. This is not the first time that the Russians have actually created a terrorist incident in order to justify an attack on another country, or a region of Russia

  26. Just like with Russia blaming the Ukrainians immediately, this Ukrainian claim is equally as foolish and likely wrong.

  27. Eh, that seems unlikely to me. One of the pillars that Putin’s regime is built on is the promise of security. Having a major terrorist attack happen in the middle of the war doesn’t project an image of stability, it does the exact opposite.

  28. islamic state claimed responsibility and the gunmen escaped safely, america had warned russia a week ago

  29. The only issue that bothers me is none of those terrorists hailed allah u akbar or anything similar.

  31. I kind of doubt that…

    The US was warning about an attack like this weeks ago.

  33. This very much looks like a legitimate ISIS attack. The US warned Russia similar to how they warned Iran about the ISIS attack in Kerman.

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