> While both countries operate the US-made F-35 fifth-generation jet, that design is optimized for strike missions and not air superiority.
> This shows a lack of confidence in the F-35’s air-to-air combat capabilities against Chinese and Russian fifth-generation designs, such as the J-20 and Su-57 respectively.
The F-35 is touted as a multirole fighter, capable of doing strike missions AND air superiority, I doubt that it would struggle against the SU-57 (where the Russians had many problems with it AFAIK) or the J-20 (where the Chinese are still slightly behind despite them catching up real fast) to the point where you’d need a 6th gen fighter to do just that.
The biggest problem of the F-35 against these planes is the ceiling which could give J-20s and SU-57 better performance in BVR assuming Stealth doesn’t come into play (that problem was exacerbated back when China had the PL-15 and the US still had no AIM-260 to compete with… but the J-20 weren’t ready either), which it 100% would because the F-35 is built around that.
At that point it’s just assuming the Chinese/Russian planes perform better than the F-35 based on nothing but speculation.
Japan and UK needing a 6th gen fighter doesn’t really indicate anything but that they are just planning for the future which would be retarded not doing so.
A ton of countries are trying to distantiate themselves from the F-35 experience (where 5th gen fighters were pretty much just that one) by building their own indigenous 6th gen fighter but the lack of experience at building a 5th gen and going straight up to a 6th gen might bite them all in the ass.
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future the first competitive 6th gen fighters are Chinese and American.
from a linked article
>Russia’s defense industry is strongly tied to maintaining regime legitimacy through sustaining perceptions of military might, providing funds for regime beneficiaries and creating jobs for ordinary Russians.
>As a result, it constantly overpromises to provide advanced weapons, yet continuously under-delivers.
emotionally repressed island tea drinkers unite! naval powers too.
Hopefully just the start of our blossoming relationship
They’ve only joined forces for the engine development, not anything else. In fact, the requirements for JASDF is too rigid for collaboration to work where as british requirement for the tempest fighter is still a few years away from being developed.
I mean makes sence, since Japan needs the UKs know-hot to build engines and the UK needs the economic cooperation.
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> While both countries operate the US-made F-35 fifth-generation jet, that design is optimized for strike missions and not air superiority.
> This shows a lack of confidence in the F-35’s air-to-air combat capabilities against Chinese and Russian fifth-generation designs, such as the J-20 and Su-57 respectively.
The F-35 is touted as a multirole fighter, capable of doing strike missions AND air superiority, I doubt that it would struggle against the SU-57 (where the Russians had many problems with it AFAIK) or the J-20 (where the Chinese are still slightly behind despite them catching up real fast) to the point where you’d need a 6th gen fighter to do just that.
The biggest problem of the F-35 against these planes is the ceiling which could give J-20s and SU-57 better performance in BVR assuming Stealth doesn’t come into play (that problem was exacerbated back when China had the PL-15 and the US still had no AIM-260 to compete with… but the J-20 weren’t ready either), which it 100% would because the F-35 is built around that.
At that point it’s just assuming the Chinese/Russian planes perform better than the F-35 based on nothing but speculation.
Japan and UK needing a 6th gen fighter doesn’t really indicate anything but that they are just planning for the future which would be retarded not doing so.
A ton of countries are trying to distantiate themselves from the F-35 experience (where 5th gen fighters were pretty much just that one) by building their own indigenous 6th gen fighter but the lack of experience at building a 5th gen and going straight up to a 6th gen might bite them all in the ass.
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future the first competitive 6th gen fighters are Chinese and American.
from a linked article
>Russia’s defense industry is strongly tied to maintaining regime legitimacy through sustaining perceptions of military might, providing funds for regime beneficiaries and creating jobs for ordinary Russians.
>As a result, it constantly overpromises to provide advanced weapons, yet continuously under-delivers.
emotionally repressed island tea drinkers unite! naval powers too.
Hopefully just the start of our blossoming relationship
They’ve only joined forces for the engine development, not anything else. In fact, the requirements for JASDF is too rigid for collaboration to work where as british requirement for the tempest fighter is still a few years away from being developed.
I mean makes sence, since Japan needs the UKs know-hot to build engines and the UK needs the economic cooperation.