‘We’ve an election coming up so let’s put the word out that we’re doing something about this then we can go back to business as usual.’
Policy hardens but is still not enforced.
All the countries who have seen massive immigration have all started to go far right.
Ireland is next and when the far right rise there will be trouble……
Horse has bolted ,won the national and is now out to stud!
Be balanced, fair….don’t open the floodgates and allow criminals or those who hate us in. Take our fair share of those in need of life, and those whose skills can help us grow……..starve the oxygen of the extremes at both ends
‘’’’Senses’’’’
Astute perception from the government as usual. What gave them that outstanding premonition? The hotel burnings or the angry mobs?
Mad that the Ukrainians who were flocking into Ireland in their tens of thousands just because it is far away from Russia and nothing to with the free money have stopped coming now the free money has stopped.
Even though, unless there’s been a major geological event in the last few hours I didn’t notice, we haven’t moved any closer to Russia.
It’s almost like….no, but surely not.
But then how will we siphon public money to hoteliers?
Will believe it when I see it, words mean nothing at this stage
The amount of quotes in that article from deluded NGO wankers desperate for their cash cow to continue. Should stop giving these cowboys oxygen
“public backlash” – some extremists platformed by RTÉ and mainstream media.
There is absolutely no backlash other than an extremely vocal (and around 50% british) minority stirring hate.
Paschal Donohoe said yesterday nothing will change untill 2028
>”This will be counterbalanced by a “solidarity” provision where member states with fewer migrants will be asked to take on their “fair share” or decide to “offset” this obligation with a financial contribution of €20,000 per migrant.”
We have an opt-out due to the Lisbon Treaty, but they’re choosing to throw money away just to look good in the eyes of the EU. Think of this the next time they cry the poor mouth of having no money.
Only 2 years too late
New migration pact is absolutely awful for Ireland. I have no idea why we would sign up
It is based on GDP so we would really take a hugely disproportionate amount. This is not ‘getting firm’. It is putting a legal requirement on us to have one of the highest per capita quotas of asylum seekers
It’d want to harden considerably more if FFG expect not to be under massive pressure in the next election.
While they’re at it a public apology would be in order to all the communities they told would only host a few Ukrainian families, mostly women and children, and then had several hundred third world males shipped in during the dead of night instead and the objectors were branded racists.
If they did that they might undo some of the gigantic damage that’s been done to people’s opinions of the three parties and government trustworthiness in general. Already there’s a very strong narrative out there that the government is more concerned with housing illegals than helping the locals. The government needs swift action to counter that otherwise it’s going to fester even more and people will be facing a rise in far right independents and the more normal parties shifting further to the right in order to try capture votes.
Lads there’s lots that the government does that I’m first and foremost to criticise them about, but we’re forever complaining that the immigration system is too lax and then when they tighten it in response to public pressure then we drag them about that as well. Like that’s what they should be doing surely?
If the comments in this thread were “This is a good step in the right direction but: we need to do more/let’s remain vigilant that they continue to prioritise immigration policy reforms/we need to make sure that this isn’t just something they do now to get them past the election which they then revert course on afterwards” then I’d totally understand it.
As things are though, it seems to upset people just as much or even more when the government try their hand at improving the situation.
Should we not be using both the carrot and the stick here? If people are gonna be pissy with them regardless then it’s hard to see what incentive they have to solve these problems.
No shit
“As the government senses public anger”
the government knew that the public for angry about things years ago, but the vast majority of people just wanted to go with the flow, not standout and were not comfortable expressing an opinion that they believed massively disagreed with the “progressive” majority.
However, things changed with the shock referendum NO result. Despite weeks of the media, saying it will be a slamdunk yes vote and that the majority of political parties and politicians were all for it. The public told them to f**k off.
The image had been painted that all of society was thinking in the governments way and the NGOs were right. People realised that private individual real-world opinion is very different to what is being portrayed.
So they are now expressing themselves in no way that previously they wouldn’t have felt comfortable doing. And I suspect the majority of people are not at all happy with the direction politicians and their advisers are pulling the country in. Previously, if you expressed the view that was anti open borders or nationalistic you would be labelled as a racist/ bigot in the hopes that will shut you up.
But people see that an awful lot of people privately think the same as they do. So they are talking about it and it is starting to snowball. There has been a lot of anger built up and repressed over the years and it is going to be interesting to see how it manifests.
The political establishment/NGOs/advisers/bureaucrats knows that the dam is starting to burst and that the public is pissed. That’s partly why the rats are jumping ship and some politicians and not standing again, this article is largely damage control and blame shifting.
Damage is long done already to their reputation that is..
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‘We’ve an election coming up so let’s put the word out that we’re doing something about this then we can go back to business as usual.’
Policy hardens but is still not enforced.
All the countries who have seen massive immigration have all started to go far right.
Ireland is next and when the far right rise there will be trouble……
Horse has bolted ,won the national and is now out to stud!
Be balanced, fair….don’t open the floodgates and allow criminals or those who hate us in. Take our fair share of those in need of life, and those whose skills can help us grow……..starve the oxygen of the extremes at both ends
‘’’’Senses’’’’
Astute perception from the government as usual. What gave them that outstanding premonition? The hotel burnings or the angry mobs?
Mad that the Ukrainians who were flocking into Ireland in their tens of thousands just because it is far away from Russia and nothing to with the free money have stopped coming now the free money has stopped.
Even though, unless there’s been a major geological event in the last few hours I didn’t notice, we haven’t moved any closer to Russia.
It’s almost like….no, but surely not.
But then how will we siphon public money to hoteliers?
Will believe it when I see it, words mean nothing at this stage
The amount of quotes in that article from deluded NGO wankers desperate for their cash cow to continue. Should stop giving these cowboys oxygen
“public backlash” – some extremists platformed by RTÉ and mainstream media.
There is absolutely no backlash other than an extremely vocal (and around 50% british) minority stirring hate.
Edit: and Irish subreddit, of course.
Extremist parties still polling at close to zero.
https://youtu.be/E-gGBaHg350?si=KSTlMUb0hAVe9v1Z
Paschal Donohoe said yesterday nothing will change untill 2028
>”This will be counterbalanced by a “solidarity” provision where member states with fewer migrants will be asked to take on their “fair share” or decide to “offset” this obligation with a financial contribution of €20,000 per migrant.”
We have an opt-out due to the Lisbon Treaty, but they’re choosing to throw money away just to look good in the eyes of the EU. Think of this the next time they cry the poor mouth of having no money.
Only 2 years too late
New migration pact is absolutely awful for Ireland. I have no idea why we would sign up
It is based on GDP so we would really take a hugely disproportionate amount. This is not ‘getting firm’. It is putting a legal requirement on us to have one of the highest per capita quotas of asylum seekers
It’d want to harden considerably more if FFG expect not to be under massive pressure in the next election.
While they’re at it a public apology would be in order to all the communities they told would only host a few Ukrainian families, mostly women and children, and then had several hundred third world males shipped in during the dead of night instead and the objectors were branded racists.
If they did that they might undo some of the gigantic damage that’s been done to people’s opinions of the three parties and government trustworthiness in general. Already there’s a very strong narrative out there that the government is more concerned with housing illegals than helping the locals. The government needs swift action to counter that otherwise it’s going to fester even more and people will be facing a rise in far right independents and the more normal parties shifting further to the right in order to try capture votes.
Lads there’s lots that the government does that I’m first and foremost to criticise them about, but we’re forever complaining that the immigration system is too lax and then when they tighten it in response to public pressure then we drag them about that as well. Like that’s what they should be doing surely?
If the comments in this thread were “This is a good step in the right direction but: we need to do more/let’s remain vigilant that they continue to prioritise immigration policy reforms/we need to make sure that this isn’t just something they do now to get them past the election which they then revert course on afterwards” then I’d totally understand it.
As things are though, it seems to upset people just as much or even more when the government try their hand at improving the situation.
Should we not be using both the carrot and the stick here? If people are gonna be pissy with them regardless then it’s hard to see what incentive they have to solve these problems.
No shit
“As the government senses public anger”
the government knew that the public for angry about things years ago, but the vast majority of people just wanted to go with the flow, not standout and were not comfortable expressing an opinion that they believed massively disagreed with the “progressive” majority.
However, things changed with the shock referendum NO result. Despite weeks of the media, saying it will be a slamdunk yes vote and that the majority of political parties and politicians were all for it. The public told them to f**k off.
The image had been painted that all of society was thinking in the governments way and the NGOs were right. People realised that private individual real-world opinion is very different to what is being portrayed.
So they are now expressing themselves in no way that previously they wouldn’t have felt comfortable doing. And I suspect the majority of people are not at all happy with the direction politicians and their advisers are pulling the country in. Previously, if you expressed the view that was anti open borders or nationalistic you would be labelled as a racist/ bigot in the hopes that will shut you up.
But people see that an awful lot of people privately think the same as they do. So they are talking about it and it is starting to snowball. There has been a lot of anger built up and repressed over the years and it is going to be interesting to see how it manifests.
The political establishment/NGOs/advisers/bureaucrats knows that the dam is starting to burst and that the public is pissed. That’s partly why the rats are jumping ship and some politicians and not standing again, this article is largely damage control and blame shifting.
Damage is long done already to their reputation that is..
Rol on the GE