Well, what western propaganda doesn’t tell you is that the people are standing up and fighting the fascists that have ruled Ukraine since 1991. This is simply America’s tired attempt to protect its failing influence over the world. America is collapsing in on itself, so to think that it can continue bombing and pillaging its way to dominance is pathetic and a testament to their arrogance and stupidity. Now think of it from the Russian’s perspective, how would America react if Mexico or Canada joined the Russian Federation and held missiles over New York City? The people of Ukraine will not be a pawn for Uncle Sam.
Because if the Russian people see freedom and prosperity right next door, they may wonder what that might be like and do something about it.
Same reason US was gonna go to war to remove Soviet weapons from Cuba.
is this a trick question?
Because NATO means US military presence in Ukraine.
As a Ukrainian political scientist said (annoyingly I can’t remember his name) “Russia doesn’t fear a border with NATO, it fears a border with democracy”
Ukraine is one of the biggest argricultural area of the world.
Russia wants buffer countries between itself and the EU for security purposes. That and it has imperialist ambitions in bordering countries. The first is pretty understandable, but Ukraine is a sovereign nation and doesn;t have to care about Russian security concerns. The second is unacceptable.
Because the grass is greener on the other side.
Unpopular opinion: I don’t mind if Ukraine never joins NATO so long as it joins the EU. Attacking an EU member essentially has the same consequences as attacking a NATO member, so once Ukraine joins the EU I’m pretty sure it’ll be safe.
I like how the plan to stop Ukrain from joining NATO is by an advanced tactic called pushing them into NATO because that is thair only option left now.
The 2 countrys could have easily be buddies and Ukraine could have easily gave a port to Russia if they gave the Ukrainin Elite a slice of the pie made from money.
But then daddy Putin couldn’t have his hard on for aggression.
I get it, that the subreddit is pro Nato and furthermore pro joining ukraine to nato or just being independent. And I am too. BUT am I the only one to understand, that it would be impossible for the russian government to let ukraine join nato without further notice. Nevertheless it may be wrong to try this for an independent country, but to put yourself in their shoes: what should they have done?
Because they can?! And nobody supports Ukraine well enough?!
Why do they want territories from almost all neighboring countries while they are already the biggest country on earth? 🤷♂️
Stop trying to find any logical behind Russias behaviors, there is nothing logical
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Well, what western propaganda doesn’t tell you is that the people are standing up and fighting the fascists that have ruled Ukraine since 1991. This is simply America’s tired attempt to protect its failing influence over the world. America is collapsing in on itself, so to think that it can continue bombing and pillaging its way to dominance is pathetic and a testament to their arrogance and stupidity. Now think of it from the Russian’s perspective, how would America react if Mexico or Canada joined the Russian Federation and held missiles over New York City? The people of Ukraine will not be a pawn for Uncle Sam.
Because if the Russian people see freedom and prosperity right next door, they may wonder what that might be like and do something about it.
Same reason US was gonna go to war to remove Soviet weapons from Cuba.
is this a trick question?
Because NATO means US military presence in Ukraine.
As a Ukrainian political scientist said (annoyingly I can’t remember his name) “Russia doesn’t fear a border with NATO, it fears a border with democracy”
Ukraine is one of the biggest argricultural area of the world.
Russia wants buffer countries between itself and the EU for security purposes. That and it has imperialist ambitions in bordering countries. The first is pretty understandable, but Ukraine is a sovereign nation and doesn;t have to care about Russian security concerns. The second is unacceptable.
Because the grass is greener on the other side.
Unpopular opinion: I don’t mind if Ukraine never joins NATO so long as it joins the EU. Attacking an EU member essentially has the same consequences as attacking a NATO member, so once Ukraine joins the EU I’m pretty sure it’ll be safe.
I like how the plan to stop Ukrain from joining NATO is by an advanced tactic called pushing them into NATO because that is thair only option left now.
The 2 countrys could have easily be buddies and Ukraine could have easily gave a port to Russia if they gave the Ukrainin Elite a slice of the pie made from money.
But then daddy Putin couldn’t have his hard on for aggression.
I get it, that the subreddit is pro Nato and furthermore pro joining ukraine to nato or just being independent. And I am too. BUT am I the only one to understand, that it would be impossible for the russian government to let ukraine join nato without further notice. Nevertheless it may be wrong to try this for an independent country, but to put yourself in their shoes: what should they have done?
Because they can?! And nobody supports Ukraine well enough?!
Why do they want territories from almost all neighboring countries while they are already the biggest country on earth? 🤷♂️
Stop trying to find any logical behind Russias behaviors, there is nothing logical