Well he hasn’t got much of a choice now has he the fucking knob.
good. the whole *double-jabbed* or *covid negative* requirement never made any sense because the two statuses are not equal
a proper plan-B should have required EVERYONE attending crowded venues to prove they are covid-negative regardless of vaccination status, otherwise plan-B becomes pointless
and we know it was, because infection rates continued to rise, and even surpassed the pre-vaccine daily record
*Taps head
Can’t break the restrictions if there aren’t any
He must be planning a ~~party~~ wine and cheese meeting
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The plan was always to review on the 26th.
It’s unsurprising they’d lift restrictions on the 26th.
Cases have peaked and are dropping off, hospitalisations have peaked and are dropping off, people on vents is dropping off, ~~deaths are dropping off.~~
So yes, the political shitstorm going on right now about partygate is taking up the news cycle, but dropping the restrictions is the right thing to do based on the data.
Edit: I was wrong about deaths which have had a small(when compared to previous infection peaks) uptick.
Edit2: [***Covid deaths are rising sharply in the UK, but an increasing proportion of these are actually due to something else, BBC analysis suggests.***](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60000391)
Expect another attack of the middle management insisting everyone go back to the offices even though every time they do it, the whole office gets sick.
As usual the actual scientists advising against it.
Just another arm waving distraction
First step of Operation Save Big Dog, desperate to distract everyone
It’s probably a good idea. Omicron has ripped through the population, but death rates are fractions of what Delta had. We also have a very highly vaccinated population, going on for 90% of adults double-jabbed and 65%-ish with a booster. At a certain point we need to move on and live with the virus – it might mean masking up and recommendations to avoid contact with the vulnerable in winter continue for some time though. I think the only thing that could change this is another variant emerging that outcompetes Omicron but leads to much more severe disease.
My “oh shit we need to do something so people think we’re good” alarm is acting up a bit…
Can someone remind what the plan B restrictions are?
I haven’t taken this government seriously since they went “the numbers are high because we are testing. If we weren’t testing there wouldn’t be high numbers”.
No fucking shit
It says that face masks will still remain in some instances? What would these instances be? They’re only used in limited circumstances anyway so would we not just go back to before plan B in November (I.e. only in medical settings)?
I see a lot of people in here and elsewhere sneering at the idea of restrictions. If the very government who introduced them can’t follow them, then why should we?
It’s a good question, to which the answer is, because this morally bankrupt shower of corrupt incompetents, every Tory MP (they knew what was going on, and if they didn’t they are more incompetent than Johnson) should be nobody’s role model. If you tried your best to save others from this horrific disease, then pat yourself on the back. You’re amazing. If you didn’t, if you partied, if you couldn’t care less to wear a mask, I do hope you live in shame.
I’m resuing a post I’ve made before, but I think it’s important because we rarely talk about what it means when someone gets severely ill from Covid. What it feels like has been compared to trying to breath through a straw, or though soil, and like their chest is on fire with every gasping breath, and potentially this goes on for days or even weeks. If ventilation is required, to increase the chances of it being successful, the patient may be put in a prone position, flipped on their stomach, and paralysed to increase the chances of success, if ventilation goes on for a signifiant time, a tracheotomy might be require. Covid also effects renal function, and kidney failure can be an issue so dialysis might also be needed. At the same time, the virus can attack your cognitive functions, meaning that fear that you arrive with, the knowledge that this deadly virus might kill you, and that is only compounded by confusion and brain fog that sets in. Add to that fear being alone, away from your family, away from your friends, with no support except for that though zoom calls, zoom calls which end when you go on ventilation, and nurses and doctors who are frazzled, and near breaking point mentally many suffering from PTSD, and this can drag out for weeks. It’s a truly horrific way to die.
When there was no other protection, you either managed to help others avoid this fate, or, along with the Tory party, contributed in sending them to this living hell. If it happens that a new variant comes along and we need to restrict ourselves again to save others, it may help to understand that you’re not doing this for Johnson, but to helps others.
If not wearing masks in shops and allowing more people into nightclubs gets Johnson off the hook there’s no hope for this country.
There’s no point in keeping them. The only usefulness it’s had in the last months is that people took the pandemic a little more seriously, although that’s likely because everyone was testing positive rather than the messaging around plan B. And we shouldn’t be normalizing restrictions when there’s no benefit, that’s not saving lives, that’s authoritarianism.
Thank god. Everything back to normal would be great
Well, the extra restrictions were brought in for Omicron, and it looks like the worst of the Omicron wave will be over by the 26th. So the measures should be reviewed honestly, but at the moment I’d guess that the threat will be no more than it was in Jul-Nov and therefore going back to the regime we had then would make sense.
Cases look like they’ve peaked already, and there’s still 11 days of decline to go before that review date.
Edit: though whether it will be Johnson in the position to make that call is another matter
Nooo I like WFH. During pandemic & before I was on benefits never experienced office life yet alone WFH life. From the 8 months I’ve had in both environments, I excel better at home (I’m in IT, pardon the pun)
As he is marred in PartyGate and facing ever growing calls to resign, he decides the best course of action for dealing with Omicron is to expedite a second wave of it, right as the first one is slowing down.
How does he think taking yet another wrong stop in dealing with Omicron will revitalise public support for him? I’m pretty sure consulting a magic 8 ball would have been a better legislative action than this.
Almost certain he brought them in as a distraction tactic from first party gate anyway (another master stroke, went splendidly well that did).
What did these restrictions even stop exactly? Clown
Must have decided they were too hard to understand
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Well he hasn’t got much of a choice now has he the fucking knob.
good. the whole *double-jabbed* or *covid negative* requirement never made any sense because the two statuses are not equal
a proper plan-B should have required EVERYONE attending crowded venues to prove they are covid-negative regardless of vaccination status, otherwise plan-B becomes pointless
and we know it was, because infection rates continued to rise, and even surpassed the pre-vaccine daily record
*Taps head
Can’t break the restrictions if there aren’t any
He must be planning a ~~party~~ wine and cheese meeting
[deleted]
The plan was always to review on the 26th.
It’s unsurprising they’d lift restrictions on the 26th.
Cases have peaked and are dropping off, hospitalisations have peaked and are dropping off, people on vents is dropping off, ~~deaths are dropping off.~~
So yes, the political shitstorm going on right now about partygate is taking up the news cycle, but dropping the restrictions is the right thing to do based on the data.
Edit: I was wrong about deaths which have had a small(when compared to previous infection peaks) uptick.
Edit2: [***Covid deaths are rising sharply in the UK, but an increasing proportion of these are actually due to something else, BBC analysis suggests.***](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60000391)
Expect another attack of the middle management insisting everyone go back to the offices even though every time they do it, the whole office gets sick.
As usual the actual scientists advising against it.
Just another arm waving distraction
First step of Operation Save Big Dog, desperate to distract everyone
It’s probably a good idea. Omicron has ripped through the population, but death rates are fractions of what Delta had. We also have a very highly vaccinated population, going on for 90% of adults double-jabbed and 65%-ish with a booster. At a certain point we need to move on and live with the virus – it might mean masking up and recommendations to avoid contact with the vulnerable in winter continue for some time though. I think the only thing that could change this is another variant emerging that outcompetes Omicron but leads to much more severe disease.
My “oh shit we need to do something so people think we’re good” alarm is acting up a bit…
Can someone remind what the plan B restrictions are?
I haven’t taken this government seriously since they went “the numbers are high because we are testing. If we weren’t testing there wouldn’t be high numbers”.
No fucking shit
It says that face masks will still remain in some instances? What would these instances be? They’re only used in limited circumstances anyway so would we not just go back to before plan B in November (I.e. only in medical settings)?
I see a lot of people in here and elsewhere sneering at the idea of restrictions. If the very government who introduced them can’t follow them, then why should we?
It’s a good question, to which the answer is, because this morally bankrupt shower of corrupt incompetents, every Tory MP (they knew what was going on, and if they didn’t they are more incompetent than Johnson) should be nobody’s role model. If you tried your best to save others from this horrific disease, then pat yourself on the back. You’re amazing. If you didn’t, if you partied, if you couldn’t care less to wear a mask, I do hope you live in shame.
I’m resuing a post I’ve made before, but I think it’s important because we rarely talk about what it means when someone gets severely ill from Covid. What it feels like has been compared to trying to breath through a straw, or though soil, and like their chest is on fire with every gasping breath, and potentially this goes on for days or even weeks. If ventilation is required, to increase the chances of it being successful, the patient may be put in a prone position, flipped on their stomach, and paralysed to increase the chances of success, if ventilation goes on for a signifiant time, a tracheotomy might be require. Covid also effects renal function, and kidney failure can be an issue so dialysis might also be needed. At the same time, the virus can attack your cognitive functions, meaning that fear that you arrive with, the knowledge that this deadly virus might kill you, and that is only compounded by confusion and brain fog that sets in. Add to that fear being alone, away from your family, away from your friends, with no support except for that though zoom calls, zoom calls which end when you go on ventilation, and nurses and doctors who are frazzled, and near breaking point mentally many suffering from PTSD, and this can drag out for weeks. It’s a truly horrific way to die.
When there was no other protection, you either managed to help others avoid this fate, or, along with the Tory party, contributed in sending them to this living hell. If it happens that a new variant comes along and we need to restrict ourselves again to save others, it may help to understand that you’re not doing this for Johnson, but to helps others.
If not wearing masks in shops and allowing more people into nightclubs gets Johnson off the hook there’s no hope for this country.
There’s no point in keeping them. The only usefulness it’s had in the last months is that people took the pandemic a little more seriously, although that’s likely because everyone was testing positive rather than the messaging around plan B. And we shouldn’t be normalizing restrictions when there’s no benefit, that’s not saving lives, that’s authoritarianism.
Thank god. Everything back to normal would be great
Well, the extra restrictions were brought in for Omicron, and it looks like the worst of the Omicron wave will be over by the 26th. So the measures should be reviewed honestly, but at the moment I’d guess that the threat will be no more than it was in Jul-Nov and therefore going back to the regime we had then would make sense.
Cases look like they’ve peaked already, and there’s still 11 days of decline to go before that review date.
Edit: though whether it will be Johnson in the position to make that call is another matter
Nooo I like WFH. During pandemic & before I was on benefits never experienced office life yet alone WFH life. From the 8 months I’ve had in both environments, I excel better at home (I’m in IT, pardon the pun)
As he is marred in PartyGate and facing ever growing calls to resign, he decides the best course of action for dealing with Omicron is to expedite a second wave of it, right as the first one is slowing down.
How does he think taking yet another wrong stop in dealing with Omicron will revitalise public support for him? I’m pretty sure consulting a magic 8 ball would have been a better legislative action than this.
Almost certain he brought them in as a distraction tactic from first party gate anyway (another master stroke, went splendidly well that did).
What did these restrictions even stop exactly? Clown
Must have decided they were too hard to understand