Wissenschaftler, der Babys gentechnisch verändert hat, ist trotz Inhaftierung wieder im Labor und „stolz“ auf seine bisherige Arbeit

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/apr/01/crispr-cas9-he-jiankui-genome-gene-editing-babies-scientist-back-in-lab

27 comments
  1. It’s our inevitable future, one way or another. 10 years or 100 years from now.

  2. Fundamentally, he’s probably correct. Don’t know exactly what he did and his methods seem dubious. The problem is how we get over the “hump” both ethical and technological, I imagine. But if there are prospects for editing out breast cancer or Huntington’s disease genes and a host of other genetically predisposed illnesses there will be demand for it.

  3. Gene editing babies is one hell of a slippery slope.

    Imagine being able to edit out the hereditary diseases and make cancers less likely –

    What will actually happen:

    Rich people looking like some form of Aryan race.

  4. There’s a reason we don’t allow human experimentation.

    It turned out the genes he edited may be related to other kinds of issues. Meaning he may have caused those babies long term health problems even though he was trying to edit a resistance to HIV.

    There’s a process we have to follow. That process may be slower but the unintentional harm we cause trying to perfect this stuff contradicts the ethics of the goal. We can’t pretend piling up corpses validates our decisions.

    The future will always have more life than our past. We could literally validate infinite amounts of human suffering if we assume “the future will benefit from this” as though that’s a reason to make bad decisions.

  5. > His experiments sent shockwaves through the medical and scientific world. He was widely condemned for having gone ahead with the risky, ethically contentious and medically unjustified procedure with inadequate consent from the families involved.

    > The court found that He had forged documents from an ethics review panel that were used to recruit couples for his research.

    Yeesh

  6. Because he knows he will go down in history as “First”. We all know the cat was coming out of the bag sooner or later but he took his opertunity to be the one to force it on the world. Of course he is proud.

  7. Don’t agree with the way he did it, but we need to work fixing genetics. To many horrible stuff people suffer from that we need to research cures for. 

  8. That future stock of Chinese hookers are gonna be CLEAN. Minty fresh clean. 

  9. I don’t really see anything wrong with genetic modification. I think it’s how we make it to deep space if I’m being honest. It has to happen.

    Along with eugenics. We should be looking to breed resistance to cancer rather than find a magic cure that isn’t coming. 

  10. so if those 3 kids grow up and be fine, no complications, he never actually harmed anyone? but we have to wait up to 70 years to find out? he may have even found a way to make hiv irrelevent as opposed to treatable, and he now working on muscular dystrophy and such? the alternative is, they get some new crap wrong with them in that time, die young and brutally, cos he pulled a dr house md, jumped fhe gun early by cheating cos he felt like it? i hope everyone involved is feeling lucky

  11. If you read Codebreaker by Walter Isaacson, there is strong evidence numerous American, European, and Chinese scientists knew about his work and did nothing. And they were the first to jump down his throat about what he did. Not necessarily because they genuinely believed what he did was wrong, but because they were angry he did it before them.

    I believe that what he did was wrong because it was lacking in ethical considerations that I value. But I’ll point out that those same scientists who scorned him announced their CRISPR centers of excellence within the same week of this being internationally announced. Although he did the work, they were perfectly fine letting it happen up until the point where there was international outrage. Feels more like saving face that true concern for other beings :/

  12. So he’s the human embodiment of the meme where goofy is saying “I’ll fucking do it again”

  13. I’m actually all for human gene editing, but you know, maybe fucking don’t experiment of babies and lie about it to the parents?

  14. I’m not really interested in ethics, only results – if this guy can gene-edit humans to be immune to diseases, that’s a massive step forward for the species. I can overlook a bit of ‘mad science’ for the greater good.

  15. Speaks volumes about China and the CCP for letting this idiot anywhere near a lab.

  16. Good
    Removing diseases is good, we don’t need religious red tape and 25 years of ethical review standing in the way of improving peoples lives.

  17. Well yes, I’m sure the government were secretly celebrating behind closed doors.

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