Is anyone surprised. For once it’s the bullies who are scarred for life.
When this news broke out, bullying was my first guess. From my understanding, this has been quite a massive problem with no one really doing enough to address it.
I’m actually surprised at the level of causal middle-school bullying that goes on in Finland and how extreme it can get. I’ve heard from friends and read news articles about it.
I went to a fairly rich private school abroad and there the solution was pretty easy, there was a “zero tolerance” policy and immediate expulsion of a child who is caught bullying.
A few kids tried it anyway, and soon after they disappeared. That’s because private schools can be more picky about who they let in.
I’m not sure what the solution in Finland would be when every child is guaranteed an education and this include kids who bully. Maybe more resources into treating the motives that lead a kid to bully?
Doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen with the government constantly cutting from both education and single-parent households.
Violence begets violence.
I hope the discussion moves away from guns to bullying, as school violence is a major problem in Finland. Check out the following (in Finnish, use the Translate function):
Bullying is a real issue, and no one seems to be denying it. However, the bigger issue over here should be how the child got that gun. Maybe Finland needs to look at its gun protection laws.
For me it’s inconceivable that the bullied ones always have to switch schools to get out of the situation, and not the bully 🙄
When I was a kid, I was severely bullied by students because I was not good at speaking. I simply started neglecting them. But the bullying went on for almost seven months. I got so pissed that I went to my teacher’s room, and started shouting about how I am getting cornered everyday by these kids. The teacher called them and asked them. A lot of denial happened. Then when she brought out her thick cane everyone started to apologize. She smacked every kid’s ass on that day. “Do that again and I’ll break your hand” was her warning. I am always grateful to her. She taught me that if I ever face violence, don’t be scared and ask her for help. Years later all those bullies and I became good friends, and we went through a lot of other corporal punishments together in school for not doing our homework properly.
If the current system can’t reduce bullying in school, then the system needs to be revisited and think of what went wrong. I understand a child’s rights are huge things in Europe, but it should not come at the expense of other children. Showing zero tolerance to the bully should be more than enough to create examples.
This is one of greatest fears as a parent. That my children become targets of bullies. I was bullied as a kid and it really started to get to the point where it was pure torture to go to school. Teachers did fuck all, my mom did her best to try and fix it, but nothing was done. So I was the one that had to leave. Thankfully the next school I went to was a good one and it pretty much ended there.
But I got fucking lucky.
While it’s absolutely not condonable what the kid did, it does not surprise me one bit that bullying is the motive here.
This literally is the epitome of how the child not feeling the love of the village wanting to burn it down to feel its warmth.
Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions
Prisons are teaming with people who feel innocent and who feel that they had to kill someone because they looked at them wrong or offended their ‘honor’. If you have horrible social skills and lack awareness in many ways, there is a heightened risk of being disrespected depending on the context. The person may be completely oblivious to the way he or she is likewise disrespecting the mores of others.
Bullying must not became the new race card where you get to have free murders because someone said something you don’t like.
If there’s anything positive this disgrace could bring is that some bullies will hesitate now before harassing kids or they may end up with a bullet or two somewhere.
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Is anyone surprised. For once it’s the bullies who are scarred for life.
When this news broke out, bullying was my first guess. From my understanding, this has been quite a massive problem with no one really doing enough to address it.
I’m actually surprised at the level of causal middle-school bullying that goes on in Finland and how extreme it can get. I’ve heard from friends and read news articles about it.
I went to a fairly rich private school abroad and there the solution was pretty easy, there was a “zero tolerance” policy and immediate expulsion of a child who is caught bullying.
A few kids tried it anyway, and soon after they disappeared. That’s because private schools can be more picky about who they let in.
I’m not sure what the solution in Finland would be when every child is guaranteed an education and this include kids who bully. Maybe more resources into treating the motives that lead a kid to bully?
Doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen with the government constantly cutting from both education and single-parent households.
Violence begets violence.
I hope the discussion moves away from guns to bullying, as school violence is a major problem in Finland. Check out the following (in Finnish, use the Translate function):
[https://twitter.com/HanneleVestola/status/1775230192065106247](https://twitter.com/HanneleVestola/status/1775230192065106247)
Bullying is a real issue, and no one seems to be denying it. However, the bigger issue over here should be how the child got that gun. Maybe Finland needs to look at its gun protection laws.
For me it’s inconceivable that the bullied ones always have to switch schools to get out of the situation, and not the bully 🙄
When I was a kid, I was severely bullied by students because I was not good at speaking. I simply started neglecting them. But the bullying went on for almost seven months. I got so pissed that I went to my teacher’s room, and started shouting about how I am getting cornered everyday by these kids. The teacher called them and asked them. A lot of denial happened. Then when she brought out her thick cane everyone started to apologize. She smacked every kid’s ass on that day. “Do that again and I’ll break your hand” was her warning. I am always grateful to her. She taught me that if I ever face violence, don’t be scared and ask her for help. Years later all those bullies and I became good friends, and we went through a lot of other corporal punishments together in school for not doing our homework properly.
If the current system can’t reduce bullying in school, then the system needs to be revisited and think of what went wrong. I understand a child’s rights are huge things in Europe, but it should not come at the expense of other children. Showing zero tolerance to the bully should be more than enough to create examples.
This is one of greatest fears as a parent. That my children become targets of bullies. I was bullied as a kid and it really started to get to the point where it was pure torture to go to school. Teachers did fuck all, my mom did her best to try and fix it, but nothing was done. So I was the one that had to leave. Thankfully the next school I went to was a good one and it pretty much ended there.
But I got fucking lucky.
While it’s absolutely not condonable what the kid did, it does not surprise me one bit that bullying is the motive here.
This literally is the epitome of how the child not feeling the love of the village wanting to burn it down to feel its warmth.
Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions
Prisons are teaming with people who feel innocent and who feel that they had to kill someone because they looked at them wrong or offended their ‘honor’. If you have horrible social skills and lack awareness in many ways, there is a heightened risk of being disrespected depending on the context. The person may be completely oblivious to the way he or she is likewise disrespecting the mores of others.
Bullying must not became the new race card where you get to have free murders because someone said something you don’t like.
If there’s anything positive this disgrace could bring is that some bullies will hesitate now before harassing kids or they may end up with a bullet or two somewhere.