Who makes posts like this at 4.30 in the morning on a Saturday night?
Put the crack pipe down
Hey lumber suppliers! Do you want to make less money for more effort?
Same with labor costs. Old guard is retiring, Eastern Europeans can stay home as their countries are booming and no one wants to work any more, especially in non-static blue collar jobs.
What’s going to happen when they start rebuilding Ukraine at some stage in the future?
Well I know what’s going to happen….so I guess that’s a rethorical question.
It’s hardly just building materials or costs, it’s virtually every commodity and service that has gotten considerably more expensive. Companies are trying to mitigate it by offering slightly inferior products or smaller amounts at the same price as before as well as others scummy techniques.
The ECB and other central banks have massively increased the money supply and destroyed the value of the euro by printing it out of existence. The only way countries and authorities can hope to get on top of the debt they built up over the past couple of years is to inflated out of existence.
Higher prices and not by accident, they are by design.
>Every survey done is saying the same thing – there is loads of work out there, but we just can’t get the people to do it.
Ask anyone trying to get a job done and you’d see how the lead time to get a tradesperson is crazy.
It’s the same with building in general. The transition, over the past 20 or so years, towards being a knowledge economy has almost been too successful. We now have an entire wave of a younger population needing houses but need someone else to build them.
As for materials, that’s another serious issue. If the government makes up for the cost of materials in some cases, it’s going to inflate prices even more for everyone. Which isn’t good.
Announcing 50k houses per year. Why would they drop prices.
If prices start to drop,the whole thing and vat returns will collapse
Why would you buy something for e100 this month,if it’ll be E80 next month and E70 the month after
Look at that anime on his face!
I bet he’s not under any stress with prices.
The only stress he had is what to do with all the profits.
The market will adjust. Ireland is always last to come down due to its geological position.
We are competing with each other.
We need a recession. In fact this sounds like a long version of late 2007.
In resolving the shortage, Candon said incentives, including tax breaks, could help attract tradespeople to Ireland. Improving rental affordability and continuing to invest and drive participation in apprenticeships could also prove crucial.
“Government efforts have been good,” he added.
“Especially through the apprenticeship schemes and the work permit programmes. They are starting to reap some awards, but much more needs to be done. Every survey done is saying the same thing – there is loads of work out there, but we just can’t get the people to do it.”
“tax breaks” and “promise for more homes” is just waffle being thrown around by the government to get people on its side. There needs to be more specifics mentioned.
“Labour cost” has went up but the guys and girls on the ground only get about 3% every year – more money for builders/company owners.
“tax breaks” how exactly? Personally I feel anyone in construction should get an extra tax credit, so if they are better off by 2-300 per month you will have plenty entering construction. And this should only be for the guys physically doing work on site – there is plenty of engineers/project managers around so they can do without it.
There needs to be allowances made for companies and tradespeople for transport. They will always have diesel vans due to the amount/weight of tools/equipment needed on site until significant improvements are made. Rebates for the carbon tax and tolls need to be considered. The government’s view of taxing the f out of everyone who starts their car/van in the morning is never going to help anyone, and not even the climate. If they were serious, they would be making office guys work at home mandatory 2 days a week.
Only when there is a financial incentive to get out of an office and onto the site, there will never be an improvement in home quantities.
It doesn’t help that we have to import so much of our building supplies.
Builders arnt costing too much. Most builders don’t even get the 27.70 an hour rate agreed with unions for a qualified trades person.
Company bosses are charging too much if somebody is getting charged too much.
Same with the building supplier boss, he’s not in any rush to drop prices.
The average fella with a hammer isn’t driving up prices.
When people say they can’t get a plumber or an electrician they are bullshitting mostly unless they are trying to get a bathroom company to change a set of taps. There’s thousands of 3rd and 4th year apprentices that will do that for you today
Why would they ??things don’t go down when inflation stops..
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Who makes posts like this at 4.30 in the morning on a Saturday night?
Put the crack pipe down
Hey lumber suppliers! Do you want to make less money for more effort?
Same with labor costs. Old guard is retiring, Eastern Europeans can stay home as their countries are booming and no one wants to work any more, especially in non-static blue collar jobs.
What’s going to happen when they start rebuilding Ukraine at some stage in the future?
Well I know what’s going to happen….so I guess that’s a rethorical question.
It’s hardly just building materials or costs, it’s virtually every commodity and service that has gotten considerably more expensive. Companies are trying to mitigate it by offering slightly inferior products or smaller amounts at the same price as before as well as others scummy techniques.
The ECB and other central banks have massively increased the money supply and destroyed the value of the euro by printing it out of existence. The only way countries and authorities can hope to get on top of the debt they built up over the past couple of years is to inflated out of existence.
Higher prices and not by accident, they are by design.
>Every survey done is saying the same thing – there is loads of work out there, but we just can’t get the people to do it.
Ask anyone trying to get a job done and you’d see how the lead time to get a tradesperson is crazy.
It’s the same with building in general. The transition, over the past 20 or so years, towards being a knowledge economy has almost been too successful. We now have an entire wave of a younger population needing houses but need someone else to build them.
As for materials, that’s another serious issue. If the government makes up for the cost of materials in some cases, it’s going to inflate prices even more for everyone. Which isn’t good.
Announcing 50k houses per year. Why would they drop prices.
If prices start to drop,the whole thing and vat returns will collapse
Why would you buy something for e100 this month,if it’ll be E80 next month and E70 the month after
Look at that anime on his face!
I bet he’s not under any stress with prices.
The only stress he had is what to do with all the profits.
The market will adjust. Ireland is always last to come down due to its geological position.
We are competing with each other.
We need a recession. In fact this sounds like a long version of late 2007.
In resolving the shortage, Candon said incentives, including tax breaks, could help attract tradespeople to Ireland. Improving rental affordability and continuing to invest and drive participation in apprenticeships could also prove crucial.
“Government efforts have been good,” he added.
“Especially through the apprenticeship schemes and the work permit programmes. They are starting to reap some awards, but much more needs to be done. Every survey done is saying the same thing – there is loads of work out there, but we just can’t get the people to do it.”
“tax breaks” and “promise for more homes” is just waffle being thrown around by the government to get people on its side. There needs to be more specifics mentioned.
“Labour cost” has went up but the guys and girls on the ground only get about 3% every year – more money for builders/company owners.
“tax breaks” how exactly? Personally I feel anyone in construction should get an extra tax credit, so if they are better off by 2-300 per month you will have plenty entering construction. And this should only be for the guys physically doing work on site – there is plenty of engineers/project managers around so they can do without it.
There needs to be allowances made for companies and tradespeople for transport. They will always have diesel vans due to the amount/weight of tools/equipment needed on site until significant improvements are made. Rebates for the carbon tax and tolls need to be considered. The government’s view of taxing the f out of everyone who starts their car/van in the morning is never going to help anyone, and not even the climate. If they were serious, they would be making office guys work at home mandatory 2 days a week.
Only when there is a financial incentive to get out of an office and onto the site, there will never be an improvement in home quantities.
It doesn’t help that we have to import so much of our building supplies.
Builders arnt costing too much. Most builders don’t even get the 27.70 an hour rate agreed with unions for a qualified trades person.
Company bosses are charging too much if somebody is getting charged too much.
Same with the building supplier boss, he’s not in any rush to drop prices.
The average fella with a hammer isn’t driving up prices.
When people say they can’t get a plumber or an electrician they are bullshitting mostly unless they are trying to get a bathroom company to change a set of taps. There’s thousands of 3rd and 4th year apprentices that will do that for you today
Why would they ??things don’t go down when inflation stops..