‘Profoundly ahistorical’: 4-star generals side with Jack Smith, tell Supreme Court Trump’s immunity claims are ‘assault’ on democracy

‘Profoundly ahistorical’: 4-star generals side with Jack Smith, tell Supreme Court Trump’s immunity claims are ‘assault’ on democracy

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  1. More than 40 former Trump administration officials have refused to endorse him. I just can’t understand how people can honestly think that they are all part of some massive conspiracy to persecute an innocent man.

  2. If the Founding Fathers intended for there to presidential immunity, the Constitution would have a clause that actually says “the President has immunity.”

  3. Read the names on this! This is an incredible group of Americans.

    But that won’t sway Thomas or Alito. I wonder how the other rightist justices will view this?

  4. The Supreme Court has unanimously defended Trump once, and through partisan support numerous times.

    Verbal rebukes or “calls for” won’t sway them.

  5. The SC has already decided this one. It’s all done except the delay.

  7. Trump’s immunity claims are an assault on the Magna Carta.

  8. Did someone give these men smelling salts? It is about time.

  10. A president with immunity is a king. Granted, the right wants a king, but our founders were expressly opposed to having a king. If you don’t know anything but that, you understand 90% of how our system is designed to work.

  11. While I agree with the article’s viewpoint, I take offense at the reasoning and thought process put in to defending against Trump’s assertion. The mere fact that people have gamed out the meaning of *Complete and Total Immunity* to such a degree almost makes it feel like like the assertion might actually be possible. No one should stoop to pointing out that an illegal order by the Commander-In-Cheif puts soldiers (who *are* legally bound to act lawfully) in an untenable position. It’s fucking absurd! That should be the reaction to the whole idea. It is simply laughably stupid. Trump is arguing that he has *Complete and Total Immunity*! That means he could walk into the House Chambers with a machine gun and mow down 435 elected members of Congress, and at the very worst, be impeached for it. What the actual fuck? No one believes that. No one. Not Trump, not anyone. It is beyond dumb. Arguing *why* it should be illegal makes it look like it *might* be legal. This idiocy has got to stop.

  12. And where the hell is that juicy binder he was the last one to possess? Did not get turned in or found.

  14. Well sure it’s an assault on Democracy, but do we really need to remind Thomas . . . His own wife was in on even more brazen assaults on democracy in the same pursuit: implementing a Republican dictator.

  15. Because he is trying to destroy America to enrich himself while empowering the enemies of our country.

  16. Everyone worrying about Trump taking over the country don’t understand how military leadership works. This article is proof of what I’ve been saying.

    Upfront: Is Trump dangerous? Absolutely.

    He cannot just order generals to do whatever the hell he wants, and if he attempted to overthrow the government, the Joint Chiefs and the other flag officers would stand up to that. Cucks like General Flynn and Captain Ronny Jackson are outliers.

  17. SCOTUS gave up on this Country years ago. Just empty robes.

  18. The fact that it was even necessary to write this brief stating such obvious reasoning really just shows how ridiculously corrupt the Supreme Court’s game is. The claim was roundly rejected by the Appeals Court there is no reason to give the case a hearing except to delay due process on Trump’s pending trials.

    The Supreme Court won’t find that he’s immune unless they want to be strung up by the neck.

    Trump is a criminal and quite possibly a traitor. He will destroy our democracy – he’s already said so. We’re not fooled Chief Justice Roberts. If he gets elected and pardons himself you will have created a banana republic. You will be held accountable by the people in the end.

  19. These are the four-star generals that have profiteered and lost every war in my lifetime as an enlisted soldier right? Holy f****** cow. Can we not give the worst of the worst of killers and murderers that followed George Bush’s orders a platform?

  20. Conservatives on the Supreme Court: “It’s adorable that you think we care. Heil Trump!”

  21. I mean, I agree with him but why is a general’s opinion relevant on this issue?

  22. If the Supreme Court does rule a president is immune, Biden can shoot Trump and the Supreme Court… which kinda proves why a president shouldn’t have immunity…

  24. If they give trump immunity what’s to stop Biden from having Trump killed on the spot. Not to mention the Supreme Court and anyone else he chooses? Are republicans that stupid?

  25. I find the most interesting thought is how that will rule in favour of trump but in a way that denies Biden or any Democrat the same immunity.

  26. A bunch of generals tell the court that if they uphold Trump’s immunity claims, then they would consider that an assault on democracy. 

    I don’t know about you guys, but if people who have led our armed forces told me something like that, I’d be reading between the lines pretty goddamned hard. Those generals swore an oath to protect the constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic and they just told me what they consider to be a domestic enemy in the making. 

    Maybe I‘m reading too much into it, but I think that’s some pretty heavy stuff. 

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