Trump Says Abortion Will Be Left to the States. Don’t Believe Him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/08/opinion/trump-abortion-states.html

48 comments

  1. Even if I did, it’s an egregious statement. Women’s rights are human rights. They are non-negotiable.

    Look at what appeasing the south with slavery got us.

    Let stop appeasing them about women’s bodily autonomy.

    But trump is a lying sack of shit.

  2. A trump victory means a nationwide abortion ban. This is outlined in Project 2025.

    Make no mistake, the only way to stop a nationwide abortion ban is to reelect Joe Biden in November.

    https://joebiden.com/

  4. So he’s letting the states choose. Because states are smaller than national governments and they are more inline with what people want. Why bother just cut out the states and let the people do what they want.

  5. “Don’t BELIEVE them! Don’t TRUST them!” Capt. Kirk, *Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country*

  6. Everyone with more than one brain cell has *never* believed him

  7. His statement is basically “no change” which a majority of the country is not in favor for and doesn’t outright deny a national ban. This shit opens doors to a slew of other rights and protections that have been around for decades to be waived away by SCOTUS or POTUS

  8. He says that as the GOP is trying to pass a 15 week Federal ban on abortion.

  9. Doesn’t matter what Trump says, if republicans ever completely control Congress, it’ll be back to the dark ages.

  10. The Overton window on full display. Somehow conceding that states having the right to criminalize a previous federal right is somehow a win. Fuck

  12. Trump says words. Trump always says words. They mean nothing.

  13. Also, don’t believe any Republican who tells you there will be exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother, or anything else. Those are lies too, the GOP has no intention of allowing them.

  14. These headlines are already framing it like leaving abortion up to the states would be a win when that’s literally what’s going on right now and it’s the furthest thing from.

    The prior standing was that individuals could make a choice. That’s the standard. That’s what it should be. Not a state legislature making medical and life decisions for you.

  15. Even if he wasn’t a lying sack chicken shit, reproductive rights isn’t a state by state issue. We need to codify roe V wade nationwide.

  16. The full story is that Republicans want to ban Abortion AND Contraception.

  19. He already proved that isn’t true. He can literally loaded the Supreme Court with judges to overturn roe vs wade

  20. I really don’t understand why republicans are hanging their hat on something so unpopular. Something vague like “control women” isn’t it. Yes, there are people who care about that kind of stuff, but corporations and big money donors who fund this stuff don’t really care about stuff like that.

  21. Trump also said in 1999: ‘I am Very Pro-Choice’

    I somehow don’t trust the guy.

  22. He’s basically just saying that he doesn’t care about the issue as long as he gets elected, after realizing how unpopular overturning Roe has been. I love that the anti-abortion crusaders are flipping their shit on him for not endorsing a national ban

  23. I believe this is his present stance and will change once his handlers decide to press him.

  24. If it’s not a federal issue what makes it a states issue?

  26. This headline is functionally useless. Anyone with the deductive reasoning skill of a five year-old already doesn’t believe anything Donald Trump says.

    The rest, well. I got nothin’. But they aren’t gonna be swayed by this headline.

  27. Even if you believe him it’s not good enough.

    Thats like saying “African Americans voting should be up to the states”. It’s beyond unacceptable.

  28. It’s only states rights as long as they make the GOPs wishlist come true

  29. I mean that still sucks because some of us unlucky people live in red states

  30. What if we leave it up to the cities instead?

    Or maybe neighborhoods?

    Maybe individual houses?

    Or even… just individuals!

  31. There has to be other nefarious reasons for banning abortion rather then just for religious reasons. Especially these 6 week bans with no exceptions. Im starting to believe groups like the federalist society just want to pump up the population of the working class and simultaneously limit their wealth.

  32. Leave it to that NY Times to make that the headline. How about “Trump proud of overturning Roe” Instead we get some BS that everyone knows is not true

  33. When the states can pass laws that will criminalize your ability to seek medical care in a different state, then maybe we shouldn’t just leave it to the states…

  35. Remember when they said Roe v. Wade was “settled law”? You can never believe them

  36. Wait, you’re saying I shouldn’t believe the guy who lies about literally everything?

  37. I what if I believe him and don’t vote for him because of it?

  38. That’s what it is currently and it’s fucking atrocious, promising not to make it even worse isn’t a selling point.

  39. He’s just saying what he needs to get a bump in the polls. Next week it will be a National abortion ban.

  40. Right wing media is saying it out loud:”this is smart of trump and if republicans want to win in November they shouldn’t take hardline stances before then.

    If democrats don’t hammer every ad with the abortion issue and remind people what these people really want we’re all gonna be in for a bad time.

  41. Abortion should be left up to the woman and her Dr., not politicians.

  43. I don’t think there’s any danger of me believing something Donald Trump says.

  44. In the 90s Trump said he was for freedom of choice. In 2016, he wasn’t. Hmmm, I wonder why. Now he’s for states’ rights. Even if a state legislates abortion is free and legal till the baby is born…..he’s all for it.

    Here’s the thing. Trump has made abortion a pawn for his campaign, no matter how much it is has tragically affected 1000s of women….he could care less.

    Right Repubs?

  45. Agreed, he knows this is what’s going to screw him at the ballot and is just lying till he gets into office. Like Kavanaugh in his confirmation hearings…

  46. Look at Kansas. They let the people decide at the ballot box on abortion during a primary no less, and we overwhelmingly said women should have the right to choose. The GOP is still trying to take that right away from the women of Kansas. They will not stop until abortion is a federal crime punishable by death.

  47. I wouldn’t believe Trump if he told me the sky was blue. He only lies

  48. Oh, state politicians, instead of with a woman and her medical professional.

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