Time Is Running Out for Ukraine – I just want the U.S. to deliver its promised aid—so that I still have a country to go back to.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/04/ukraine-aid-russia-congress/677976/?taid=6613926dfb89dc0001c96003
by BkkGrl
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The GOP is a joke. How the hell anyone can select these jokers to work in government is unbelievable. They are so stupid they can’t see that if they don’t give the aid it will end up costing a shit ton more.
The strength of the USA is in their allies.
China and Russia have a lack of alliances, and it is for a reason. They screw others over to only do whats best for them.
Being an ally of the US is very valuable. It’s based on mutual defence treaties in which the US gains a diplomatic and military friend, and the ally gains the defence of the largest military on earth.
But these friendships only mean something for these countries if the US backs them up when they most need it. That when the US commits to something, it commits all the way.
If the US can’t even stick by Ukraine for 2 years at the cost of merely 5% of its defence budget, it will make every ally think twice about what an alliance with the US exactly means.
It’s already happening in Europe. Countries are asking if the US actually would show up if they were attacked by Russia. Would the US send us weapons and equipment, and for how long? Would they stop after 24 months? Would they stop after the next election cycle? Can we count on our biggest ally when we are in a crisis?
The US committed to helping Ukraine repel Russian aggression, and now that it needs it the most, the US is bailing. The House is stalling, every time it could decide to aid Ukraine, it has an excuse not to or even go on vacation. In the meantime, the potential next president just bluntly says he will screw any ally if he thinks it doesn’t meet certain guidelines.
This is really bad for any future agreement with the US.
It’s pretty mind blowing that US is voluntarily abandoning their position in the world because one side feels the need to “stick it” to the other side.
It’s going to do profound damage to any future alliances and commitments. If sending cold war surplus to Ukraine to defend themselves against RUSSIA is leading to political gridlock, imagine how sending American soldiers to die to protect US allies will go.
Remember that this was almost unanimously agreed on bi-partisan issue two years ago… “As long as it takes”.
I agree that Mike is a POS by blocking the aid. I think it’s dumb that one person can prevent a vote, seems very undemocratic.
But I thought Europe, Canada, and other places sent them some military equipment? Is none of the promised aid making its way to Ukraine?
“Sorry Ukraine, but our Greatest Ally Israel’s right to exterminate Palestinians and to drag us into war with Iran is infinitely more important than your survival. Stop being selfish.”
– ‘Murica
Which is exactly why Europe can not only rely on the Americans. Decades of becoming weaker and weaker, and more reliant and powerless. We made our bed, and we’ll have to lie in it if we don’t get the war machine going.
Most Americans want that, too, but we’re paralyzed by a minority of freaks and traitors.
But… the congress have holidays! Don’t you want them to have holidays after their recess? You monster… /s
If USA abandons Ukraine forget that anyone will give up nukes in the future.
American here, I’ll say that the drive for America to be the world police is dying here and it’s long overdue for Europe to boost its own defense capabilities. Even If China invaded Taiwan today I doubt the average American would want any US boots on the ground. In fact any involvement in any war is gonna be extremely unpopular even if it’s an ally, and most Americans would not be eager to come to Europe’s defense in the case of an attack.
Don’t let Americans on Reddit fool you, the people on this site are not at all representative of what the average American feels, most of us stopped paying attention to Ukraine over a year ago and a lot of us no longer want our tax dollars being spent on foreign wars when the CoL keeps rising and overall quality of life has been in a steady decline. It’s another reason why supporting Israel is so unpopular too.
We’re becoming a very jaded country, our population is increasingly uninterested in foreign politics and wants no part in it. You could say isolationism is slowly gaining popularity again. It’s easy to point fingers at the GOP but they’re the only ones representing the part of the country that is aggressively anti-war. Decades ago it used to be the Democrats.
Everybody here is talking about how terrible the yanks are for withholding aid and how we can’t rely on their soldiers to defend us, but nobody here is talking about why European nations can’t send proper aid and support to another European nation and how European nations can’t defend themselves.
Bodies are need more than weapons, so why is the author not in Ukraine fighting?
Send your thanks to german government.
If it wasnt for the pressure from international community, they would be probably starting to work on another gas pipeline
Sorry, we can’t afford it. We have millions of new illegal aliens to support.
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Very reason why nato = US. There should have been an EU army decades ago. If US support is compromised (like what is happening now) other europeans should be able to fend for themselves. Remember the US only entered ww2 aftet then pearl harbor
I want the US to send more aid to Ukraine. I am confused about why Europe is sending so little aid. It’s their back yard. Why is all of Europe not backing Ukraine 100%
Europeans wondering why America is not sending money to Ukriane….while chilling in their homes
As someone in the US I just want us to deliver any and all aid required, promised already or not. Because this may be the one time in my entire life that the correct side was 100% crystal clear and the fact those assholes are holding the aid hostage is so undeniably despicable and disgusting.
“So that you still have a country to go back to”? Very convenient. How about all of us who haven’t fled like you and don’t have any other country to go?
There’s no oil in Ukraine…/s
To go back to? Nice
Support for Ukraine now❤️
Not once have Europeans offered to purchase the weapons from the USA to give to Ukraine to overcome GOP deadlock. It is not about weapons or security for Europe. It is about money and profit.
This is in the end a business decision. Free stuff from America is better than paying for it. That means Europe gets security and doesn’t have to pay. If America won’t give for free then Europe will make all its own weapons. But it’s not really Europe. It’s France and Germany and Poland etc. individual countries. They won’t give for free either. They expect to sell their weapons.
If Poland buys from Germany to give to Ukraine, they can say Europe gave to Ukraine. Or any other combination of countries. That is the idea, but everyone imagines themselves to be the seller and not the buyer. No one wants to be the one giving their citizens money and not getting anything back. They want to be the one profiting from selling weapons someone else is paying for.
The French defense minister earlier this year said as much. Gave a few vehicles to Ukraine and said many more can be given….if “allies” pay for it.
In the end Europe sees a defense industry as a business opportunity and not about security.
Believe me, we do too, but the GOP has been too far compromised by Russia.
This is the result when the EU decided to be America’s lapdog.
Ten heartbreaking pictures that will make you say “I love the military industrial complex”
The holdup is wholly due to the majority in the House of Representatives.
I just cannot wait until the next war the US gets into under a Republican president so we can hear about how important this war is to national security, how if you don’t support it then you’re not a patriot, etc.
I’m eagerly clipping all of the Conservative and MAGA media personalities speaking against helping Ukraine so they can see how stupid they are come the next war that they support.
We need to get our shit together, declare an emergency, and get the factories running. It is an emergency, we cannot sit idle and stare at PowerPoints.
I love these comments and yet I don’t see anyone in Europe opening new military factories.
Building anything, but I sure see crying about immigrants.
The after US aid Russia will withdraw and they’ll get reperations?
UN can step up and support UK.
To my European friends: Please help Ukraine by donating privately and not just relying on government support.
And to our US friends: We know we fucked up with an embarrassing military capability and hopefully that’s now changing but please help our friends in Ukraine 🇺🇦
While I’m sympathetic to Ukrainians, europeans need to step the fuck up. You’re pathetically weak and it’s showing. You mock Americans for spending so much on the military then whine like helpless children when you need us.
It never ceases to amaze me how much Europeans criticise America for spending too much on military… now want to spend a similar level on military when there’s barely enough money for state needs anyway.
Noone talks about how it was Ukraine’s foolhardy counterattack that bled their military dry and is directly resulting in current events. At this point we could give Ukraine mountains of ammo and weapons but no result is guaranteed assize maybe a stalemate.
I guess Europe should have listen to Trump!