While I like the general idea, this seems more publicity stunt by Hesse authorities than anything else.
Most supermarkets have long done away with extra personnel to check adherence with covid mask rules as most if not all shoppers follow them by now.
However, for this new arrangement, they’d have to hire extra personnel again to do certificate checks.
The mask rules were mandatory, so supermarkets had to invest money to get them followed – this here is a voluntary option – i don’t see markets spending money on it.
At most maybe markets in city centers with limited floor space that are very cramped…
I got my 2nd vaccine against the plague earlier this month. So I’ll be fine next friday.
I live in a state next to Hessen. I’m very happy about all of this.
*Can*, but probably *won’t*.
What happened was that one, small, specialist store complained that it was unfair that they were being forced to allow unvaccinated people onto the premises, and the court agreed. So the new rules have come into force allowing retailers to implement the 2G rule.
Most establishments probably won’t bother. And at least when it comes to stores providing for everyday needs — like food — there is a potential problem: people who, for various reasons, *cannot* get vaccinated are excluded under 2G rules.
Kudos to them. I hope many do that.
As much as I find vaccinations reasonable, necessary and social, this would not stand at the courts: We have another ruling that allows administrative gatherings of associations (you have to do that at least once a year) without any tests or vaccinations, just with masks on the entire time, ventilation every some hour and distance.
Looks like plain disinformation for me.
To be honest, with an 85% vaccinated adult rate, plus maybe 3-5% with recovered passes, Germany is pushing soon to be 90% adults vaccinated/recovered. Who exactly are they trying to intimidate at this point. Is there a large hold out i’m unaware of that will potentially flood hospitals?
I think it is good that business owners are at least given the option to use 2G.
Crap
How likely is it though that a) Supermarkets would actually enforce that and b) constitutional courts let the rule enabling private busines to barr people from getting life essentials in the books?
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How can anyone support this actually? How can someone, even if he is vaccinated and supports covid vaccinations, support when supermarkets are allowed to ban unvaccinated people from buying food? Like…the most basic need?
People who are dying fans of “oh my god, be a good person and think about other human beings” when it comes to vaccination, are also fans of “but the human beings who won’t take the vaccine, don’t have the right to go to a supermarket and buy food, so they can die”.
Ridiculous
I really love Germany and its people, but it seems some individuals and institutions have completely lost their minds. There are some very hateful people in the leading positions in this country. They are dividing the people.
I just don’t see the point in this 2G nonsense. Given that vaccinations are now no longer close to 100% in preventing (and spreading) covid, thanks to variants, having a current test should make you momentarily *safer* than someone who is “only” vaccinated.
Having a foreign partner (who *cannot* be vaccinated in her home country with an EU-approved vaccine, but does not count as “not being able to be vaccinated”), she completely falls through the cracks of current regulations. She will now have her fourth(!) vacccination in December, 2 of which were utterly pointless, taking away those 2 doses from people that would have actually needed it.
Until then, she’s prevented to participate in more and more things in public over here, to no fault of her own.
brilliant idea. “just let them starve to death, that will show them”
good
Oh no!!!
Anyway…
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Absolutely UNACCEPTABLE
So apparently people are ok with them not being able to by FOOD
*Short explanation:*
In Germany it’s 100% your decision who you want to have in your store/restaurant/hotel…
If you say: “Today I will only let people in, who wear green socks and pink shoes” Than that’s totally legal.
It’s called “Hausrecht” and that’s beautiful.
Discrimination should be a valid reason to not let undersirables into private property, fully agreed on that.
Nice, i like to starve. And a lot of people do as well i guess /s
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Only for the V.I.P. customers with 2g.
While I like the general idea, this seems more publicity stunt by Hesse authorities than anything else.
Most supermarkets have long done away with extra personnel to check adherence with covid mask rules as most if not all shoppers follow them by now.
However, for this new arrangement, they’d have to hire extra personnel again to do certificate checks.
The mask rules were mandatory, so supermarkets had to invest money to get them followed – this here is a voluntary option – i don’t see markets spending money on it.
At most maybe markets in city centers with limited floor space that are very cramped…
I got my 2nd vaccine against the plague earlier this month. So I’ll be fine next friday.
I live in a state next to Hessen. I’m very happy about all of this.
*Can*, but probably *won’t*.
What happened was that one, small, specialist store complained that it was unfair that they were being forced to allow unvaccinated people onto the premises, and the court agreed. So the new rules have come into force allowing retailers to implement the 2G rule.
Most establishments probably won’t bother. And at least when it comes to stores providing for everyday needs — like food — there is a potential problem: people who, for various reasons, *cannot* get vaccinated are excluded under 2G rules.
Kudos to them. I hope many do that.
As much as I find vaccinations reasonable, necessary and social, this would not stand at the courts: We have another ruling that allows administrative gatherings of associations (you have to do that at least once a year) without any tests or vaccinations, just with masks on the entire time, ventilation every some hour and distance.
Looks like plain disinformation for me.
To be honest, with an 85% vaccinated adult rate, plus maybe 3-5% with recovered passes, Germany is pushing soon to be 90% adults vaccinated/recovered. Who exactly are they trying to intimidate at this point. Is there a large hold out i’m unaware of that will potentially flood hospitals?
I think it is good that business owners are at least given the option to use 2G.
Crap
How likely is it though that a) Supermarkets would actually enforce that and b) constitutional courts let the rule enabling private busines to barr people from getting life essentials in the books?
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How can anyone support this actually? How can someone, even if he is vaccinated and supports covid vaccinations, support when supermarkets are allowed to ban unvaccinated people from buying food? Like…the most basic need?
People who are dying fans of “oh my god, be a good person and think about other human beings” when it comes to vaccination, are also fans of “but the human beings who won’t take the vaccine, don’t have the right to go to a supermarket and buy food, so they can die”.
Ridiculous
I really love Germany and its people, but it seems some individuals and institutions have completely lost their minds. There are some very hateful people in the leading positions in this country. They are dividing the people.
I just don’t see the point in this 2G nonsense. Given that vaccinations are now no longer close to 100% in preventing (and spreading) covid, thanks to variants, having a current test should make you momentarily *safer* than someone who is “only” vaccinated.
Having a foreign partner (who *cannot* be vaccinated in her home country with an EU-approved vaccine, but does not count as “not being able to be vaccinated”), she completely falls through the cracks of current regulations. She will now have her fourth(!) vacccination in December, 2 of which were utterly pointless, taking away those 2 doses from people that would have actually needed it.
Until then, she’s prevented to participate in more and more things in public over here, to no fault of her own.
brilliant idea. “just let them starve to death, that will show them”
good
Oh no!!!
Anyway…
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Absolutely UNACCEPTABLE
So apparently people are ok with them not being able to by FOOD
*Short explanation:*
In Germany it’s 100% your decision who you want to have in your store/restaurant/hotel…
If you say: “Today I will only let people in, who wear green socks and pink shoes” Than that’s totally legal.
It’s called “Hausrecht” and that’s beautiful.
Discrimination should be a valid reason to not let undersirables into private property, fully agreed on that.
Nice, i like to starve. And a lot of people do as well i guess /s