After Trump Broadside, Surveillance Bill Collapses in the House

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/fisa-trump-johnson-house.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU0.MXAb.ek278PiR0VQF

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  2. No warrant to spy on foreign entities and the Americans consorting with foreign spies. Can of seems like a no brainer.

  4. I’m ok with this one failing since we should not have our government doing warrantless surviellance.

  6. >“KILL FISA, IT WAS ILLEGALLY USED AGAINST ME, AND MANY OTHERS. THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN!!!” Mr. Trump wrote in a post on social media.

    Sure. But *why* was it used against him, huh? The government doesn’t just use FISA warrants to surveil random people.

    Oh right. It was probably because a number of his campaign staff were in contact with various Russian nationals. You know…the stuff they were found guilty of.

  8. Vitally important no-one investigates his handler/paymaster.

  9. Bizarre own goal by the GOP. 19 of Trump’s most loyal (?) *joined the Democrats* in opposing the bill’s consideration.

    It should surprise no one that:
    >”[Trump’s] statement was largely incoherent as a matter of policy. Section 702 allows the government to target foreigners abroad for surveillance without warrants. The instance Mr. Trump was apparently referring to — when the F.B.I. obtained wiretap orders on a former campaign adviser to his 2016 campaign as part of the Russia investigation — concerned a different section of FISA for targeting Americans and people on domestic soil in national security inquiries.”

  11. Surely Trump is just innocently concerned about the rights of foreign nationals. I’m sure he’s not worried that something related to him could get swept up in their surveillance of foreign nationals considered to be a threat to the US.

  12. Now we are left to assume he’s talking to foreign nationals the government listens to because they’re bad people just like Donny.

    Not surprised in the slightest.

  13. It’s quite bizarre to see one of the major parties in one of the most powerful nations on earth beholden to a single man, let alone a man like Trump. So many things have to fail on so many levels to end up here, yet here we are. It points to an incredible weakness in the GOP, as minimum.

  14. Just thought I would point out that of the 209 Dems present all 209 voted against the bill so Trump just handed the Dems a win.

  15. If the Republican Party could stop sucking Trump’s dick for like five minutes and achieve something for American people, that would be good.

  16. Politics aside, does anyone really believe that the NSA will change its ways because of this?

  17. “Right-wing House Republicans on Wednesday blocked legislation to extend an expiring warrantless surveillance law that national security officials call crucial to gathering intelligence and fighting terrorism”

    Listen guys, Donald Trump is a national security threat. You know it. I know it. We all know it. We have known this for many years.

    We knew it from the infamous Helsinki press conference, where he praised Putin while throwing our intelligence agencies under the bus.

    We knew it 2017 when, in an Oval Office meeting, Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador.

    We knew it when Trump took, concealed and lied about taking our nation’s secrets followed by an alarming number of clandestine human sources being executed.

    And we know it after Trump tanked the Surveillance Bill. Trump is simply a criminal and a traitor to the United States of America.

  19. Can’t stand the yellow russian asset but glad he killed it because of his own personal reasons

  23. If the intelligence community was such a danger to you people, why are you still alive? I was under the impression that the CIA, FBI, and NSA were agencies that helped fend off the Soviet Unions agencies and match them everywhere they could?

  24. I often wonder if Cleveland had this influence between his terms. But I don’t have energy to look it up. 

  25. I guess if he is elected our intelligence services will be provided by Moscow. He never listened to ours anyway.

  27. In the halls of power, whispers weave,
    A tale of deceit, designed to deceive,
    Russian tendrils, creeping sly,
    Entangle the GOP, where truth should lie.

    Behind closed doors, in shadowy sway,
    Russian intelligence holds its sway,
    Infiltrating minds with cunning guise,
    Undermining democracy’s very prize.

    As loyalty wavers, principles bend,
    The GOP’s integrity meets its end,
    For in the grasp of foreign hands,
    The party’s fate, it firmly stands.

    But amidst the darkness, no light in sight,
    As truth succumbs to the endless night,
    The GOP, in Russian grip, it rots,
    A puppet of power, tied in knots.

    For loyalty sold, and principles betrayed,
    Democracy’s demise, their price is paid,
    In the shadow of foreign hands,
    The GOP falls, where darkness stands.

  28. CNN reported this like it was Trump pulling major strategy. God I hate US journalism.

  29. Why would tfg want a law that helps the government to spy on him extended? #puppetpuppet

  30. Do we really want FISA and the Patriot Act? It’s a gross violation of the Constitution.

  32. Trump wants to make it as easy as possible for foreign governments to influence the election. Why do you think he came out against the TikTok bill?

  33. One of the problems is that the US system needs at least one more party for each existing party. Socialist, Democrat, Republican and Christian Nationalist?

  34. What a massive own-goal this is. I mean, I’m totally ok with it, but what a fucking mess the Republican party is.

  35. What ever Trump did to E. Jean Carrol, he is doing to America. Half of the country loves it. Amazing to see. Everyone has a choice , some people to give their chose to the orange man.

  36. >”Complicating matters, Republicans had bundled a procedural measure to open debate on the bill with an unrelated resolution condemning President Biden’s border policies, all but ensuring that no Democrats would vote to advance the package.”

    A bill you really want to get passed, that you know you’re probably going to need Democrats for because Trump is going to do something insane like he does 95% of the time and his cult will vote against, and you let it get attached to something the Democrats are going to hate and that’s meaningless anyway?

    JFC Mike Johnson is an idiot. And it would be amusing, except that we could really use a speaker who isn’t an idiot.

  37. Hopefully one day we pass legislation to make it illegal to outright follow orders from a non elected official.

  38. Der Trumpenfuhrer should be surveilled 24/7 by a team of psychiatrists.

  39. How many foreign powers would like this bill to fail?

    Seem curious that trump needs help in election and with funds and now is siding against America interests on key policies.

    Smells suspect to me.

  40. >most aligned with the ultraconservative House Freedom Caucus, joined Democrats in opposing its consideration.

    Freedom caucus joined with democrats?

    What fresh level of hell is this?

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