I can understand their shock. I came out of the working tax credit/child tax credit system entirely because I was repeatedly getting told I was being either underpaid or overpaid. I was very worried I would end up in debt for thousands of pounds. The system is awful.
I wonder if they’ll go so hard after the millions stolen by the Bulgarian organised crime group. They were only able to steal due to DWP incompetence. Leave these good people alone.
It is really daft the way they have it setup
>Full-time carers can claim £81.90 a week, but they become ineligible for the whole amount if they earn just a pound over £151 a week, after tax and expenses.
It really should be a sliding scale so that your allowance reduces by the same amount as you go over the £151 threshold rather than just stopping. We want to encourage people to be in work after all rather than having to sit at home.
But I have limited sympathy for these cases though as the rules were clear, if a bit crap. If people didn’t read them properly, or more likely thought nobody would notice the extra income, then they only have themselves to blame.
It feels like the government would happily turn its back on the elderly and disabled.
This is the reality of voting for politicians who promise to crack down on ‘benefit scroungers’.
There simply aren’t that many people stealing from the system, so to get the headlines they want they go after administrative errors to prosecute very vulnerable people.
This does not save you, the taxpayer, a penny as the care still had to be provided and the typical unpaid carer is providing hundreds to thousands of pounds of care a week for £81.90 a week. So if you bully or scare people out of doing it, the cost of providing care skyrockets.
But the politician got to do an interview in the Mail about scoungers so all good right?
In the meantime we can keep swapping unelected prime ministers each one receiving a golden pension for life and a full security detail costing high 6 figures per year.
If all unpaid carers stopped and put what they were doing into the hands of the state it would cost billions.
I am a carer for my disabled son. I claim carer’s allowance. It’s a paltry amount but helps none the less. Where do I stand in all of this? Have I done something wrong? Should I do something?
>She says she would sometimes agree to work an extra shift, but would do fewer other weeks. This way, she believed she would remain under the earnings threshold to qualify for the benefit.
So in other words she purposfully would refuse work in order to claim benefits…interesting
You keep voting for the clowns and you are wondering how you ended up with the circus?
I was a carer for my mother for 4 years. I could not live, but my mother needed the help (she has Fibromyalgia). I quit being a carer during Covid, called them to notify them, signed on to jobseekers, but couldn’t get a job during covid. After Covid I got a job, then Carer’s allowance claimed I owed them thousands of pounds because they say ‘I didn’t notify them and they have no record of a phone call’. They swear blind it’s my fault and they couldn’t have possibly made this error.
You might be wondering how did I not notice I still got paid? I didn’t, because I signed onto JSA and its the exact same amount of money per week, so I thought it was that, it doesn’t say ‘Carers’ or ‘JSA’, just ‘DWP’.
Issue still not resolved either. They still want that money and they won’t listen to me at all.
The political elite are the ture scroungers of this country, fancy not investing themselves after they walked away with billions of ppe money. Plus, the fact they dodge tax like it criticism
I was a carer for eighteen years, if I remember correctly you had to care for someone, for a minimum of 35hrs a week to claim carers allowance. The rules may have changed, but I can remember not being able to claim for it, because I worked 16hrs at the minimum wage. These were not Conservative rules, these were the rules under the last Labour government.
Up until three years ago, because of my intensive caring duties, I had not worked for eleven years. I got a job, started earning par way through a claim year. In the second year I recieved a letter stating that I had been over paid, based on the earnings I claimed I would earn and those that I actually earned.
Whilst on benefits, every year I had to claim what I had recieved in benefits for the previous year. The benefits you are entitled to ar based on that ckasim. As I had stated work in I had earned significantly more than my claim. The transition into work cost me £1200. You would think that they would have waved that off, seeing as I had been out of work for eleven years. Not likely. So I told them I would I pay it back £20 a month. Buggers.
The UK unpaid carer situation is an absolute scandal.
I work at least 35hrs a week and often more and then on top of that care for a loved one. I could t afford to be on carers allowance and I also want to work (maybe not all those hours) but I wouldn’t be able to afford it and truthfully that results in the quality of care I give which isn’t right at all.
My mom cares for my father 13hours a day along with paid help for 13 hours a day. We just pay out of our ass and have never claimed anything. The caring situation is a disaster, he’s got Parkinsons and dementia and we are drowning in costs and work.
If anyone is reading this and is an unpaid carer, please get in touch with your local Citizens Advice or local Authority who may have assistance available.
I work within Welfare rights and we can challenge these decisions and win them!
Once again: the cruelty is the point. Conservatives believe people deserve this treatment.
14 year of the caring party…..
they are only doing their best, lets give them another 14.
Now how does this work if your mmm are working but also provide care for your partner out of those hours, where universal credit /carers allowance etc adjusts automatically based on your wage monthly ? (When someone doesn’t have to inform , they’re already aware of the adjustment automatically )
“hard on the weak, soft on the strong”, This saying often reflects a mindset or approach where someone is perceived as being tough or strict with those who are vulnerable or in a weaker position, while being more lenient or accommodating towards those who hold power or strength. It’s often used to criticize unfair treatment or unequal application of rules or standards.
I got past this by paying a friend to help with my dad, out of the allowance, which then brought me under the amount I could earn. He got a bit extra tax taken off him, but it was worth it otherwise I’d not have been able to claim Carers Allowance. You are able to increase the amount you’re allowed to earn if you are paying someone else for help with the person you’re caring for.
This is great honestly love seeing it put an end to freeloader culture in the uk
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I can understand their shock. I came out of the working tax credit/child tax credit system entirely because I was repeatedly getting told I was being either underpaid or overpaid. I was very worried I would end up in debt for thousands of pounds. The system is awful.
I wonder if they’ll go so hard after the millions stolen by the Bulgarian organised crime group. They were only able to steal due to DWP incompetence. Leave these good people alone.
It is really daft the way they have it setup
>Full-time carers can claim £81.90 a week, but they become ineligible for the whole amount if they earn just a pound over £151 a week, after tax and expenses.
It really should be a sliding scale so that your allowance reduces by the same amount as you go over the £151 threshold rather than just stopping. We want to encourage people to be in work after all rather than having to sit at home.
But I have limited sympathy for these cases though as the rules were clear, if a bit crap. If people didn’t read them properly, or more likely thought nobody would notice the extra income, then they only have themselves to blame.
It feels like the government would happily turn its back on the elderly and disabled.
This is the reality of voting for politicians who promise to crack down on ‘benefit scroungers’.
There simply aren’t that many people stealing from the system, so to get the headlines they want they go after administrative errors to prosecute very vulnerable people.
This does not save you, the taxpayer, a penny as the care still had to be provided and the typical unpaid carer is providing hundreds to thousands of pounds of care a week for £81.90 a week. So if you bully or scare people out of doing it, the cost of providing care skyrockets.
But the politician got to do an interview in the Mail about scoungers so all good right?
In the meantime we can keep swapping unelected prime ministers each one receiving a golden pension for life and a full security detail costing high 6 figures per year.
If all unpaid carers stopped and put what they were doing into the hands of the state it would cost billions.
I am a carer for my disabled son. I claim carer’s allowance. It’s a paltry amount but helps none the less. Where do I stand in all of this? Have I done something wrong? Should I do something?
>She says she would sometimes agree to work an extra shift, but would do fewer other weeks. This way, she believed she would remain under the earnings threshold to qualify for the benefit.
So in other words she purposfully would refuse work in order to claim benefits…interesting
You keep voting for the clowns and you are wondering how you ended up with the circus?
I was a carer for my mother for 4 years. I could not live, but my mother needed the help (she has Fibromyalgia). I quit being a carer during Covid, called them to notify them, signed on to jobseekers, but couldn’t get a job during covid. After Covid I got a job, then Carer’s allowance claimed I owed them thousands of pounds because they say ‘I didn’t notify them and they have no record of a phone call’. They swear blind it’s my fault and they couldn’t have possibly made this error.
You might be wondering how did I not notice I still got paid? I didn’t, because I signed onto JSA and its the exact same amount of money per week, so I thought it was that, it doesn’t say ‘Carers’ or ‘JSA’, just ‘DWP’.
Issue still not resolved either. They still want that money and they won’t listen to me at all.
The political elite are the ture scroungers of this country, fancy not investing themselves after they walked away with billions of ppe money. Plus, the fact they dodge tax like it criticism
I was a carer for eighteen years, if I remember correctly you had to care for someone, for a minimum of 35hrs a week to claim carers allowance. The rules may have changed, but I can remember not being able to claim for it, because I worked 16hrs at the minimum wage. These were not Conservative rules, these were the rules under the last Labour government.
Up until three years ago, because of my intensive caring duties, I had not worked for eleven years. I got a job, started earning par way through a claim year. In the second year I recieved a letter stating that I had been over paid, based on the earnings I claimed I would earn and those that I actually earned.
Whilst on benefits, every year I had to claim what I had recieved in benefits for the previous year. The benefits you are entitled to ar based on that ckasim. As I had stated work in I had earned significantly more than my claim. The transition into work cost me £1200. You would think that they would have waved that off, seeing as I had been out of work for eleven years. Not likely. So I told them I would I pay it back £20 a month. Buggers.
The UK unpaid carer situation is an absolute scandal.
I work at least 35hrs a week and often more and then on top of that care for a loved one. I could t afford to be on carers allowance and I also want to work (maybe not all those hours) but I wouldn’t be able to afford it and truthfully that results in the quality of care I give which isn’t right at all.
My mom cares for my father 13hours a day along with paid help for 13 hours a day. We just pay out of our ass and have never claimed anything. The caring situation is a disaster, he’s got Parkinsons and dementia and we are drowning in costs and work.
If anyone is reading this and is an unpaid carer, please get in touch with your local Citizens Advice or local Authority who may have assistance available.
I work within Welfare rights and we can challenge these decisions and win them!
Once again: the cruelty is the point. Conservatives believe people deserve this treatment.
14 year of the caring party…..
they are only doing their best, lets give them another 14.
Now how does this work if your mmm are working but also provide care for your partner out of those hours, where universal credit /carers allowance etc adjusts automatically based on your wage monthly ? (When someone doesn’t have to inform , they’re already aware of the adjustment automatically )
“hard on the weak, soft on the strong”, This saying often reflects a mindset or approach where someone is perceived as being tough or strict with those who are vulnerable or in a weaker position, while being more lenient or accommodating towards those who hold power or strength. It’s often used to criticize unfair treatment or unequal application of rules or standards.
I got past this by paying a friend to help with my dad, out of the allowance, which then brought me under the amount I could earn. He got a bit extra tax taken off him, but it was worth it otherwise I’d not have been able to claim Carers Allowance. You are able to increase the amount you’re allowed to earn if you are paying someone else for help with the person you’re caring for.
This is great honestly love seeing it put an end to freeloader culture in the uk