Sounds good? I would imagine there should be some conditions surely.
I think the government’s priority should be to ensure that innocent public members are protected from danger as much as possible.
If somebody is here as an asylum seeker and are a threat to the general public, they shouldn’t be in the country anymore.
We already have enough homegrown violence, why allow people to stay if they’re going to be a detriment to the country?
Ultimately it’s people who create unrest, war, discriminatory practices that lead to countries being unsafe to remain in. Bring in enough of the people in those source countries and you’re just going to transfer the same issues to here.
We can only remain a safe haven for asylum seekers if we ensure that our country is safe as well.
Should be happening already,
Is this even a controversial opinion?
Would be nice to deport locals for serious offences… To some uninhabited island
Makes sense
You’re a guest of the country, don’t act the maggot
Deported to where, though. If they got genuine asylum it’s because there’s a risk that going back wherever, they will be harmed. Everyone else is an economic migrant – and should be deported back to their safe country. Now for asylum seekers maybe you say “that’s their bad luck”, but now are we going to decide what crimes get you sent back to the taliban to be executed. Murders go, shoplifters don’t? And how does that stack up in law (we can’t extradite people to the US for certain crimes legally, because they have a death penalty).
So… simple to say, complex to do.
No shit, Lisa.
Imagine being a member of a party that literally bankrupted the entire country and put us all in thousands of euro of debt, telling us we should deport criminals. Start with your-fucking-selves.
So, you grant somebody asylum, basically saying they are not safe in their own country, but then you say they should be deported if the commit a crime.
Where do you deport them to? Back to the place that you agree is not safe for them?
That this is even up for debate is ridiculous. Their safety is more important than Irish citizens. It should be one strike and you’re out for any serious crime.
No shit Lisa but you are only saying that now as there is literally no other acceptable opinion that will get your little EU election campaign over the line.
Like all of them you are literally just saying this for votes and will go right back to doing nothing and being an EU stooge as soon as you are elected
No time for turncoat bitches sorry
She’s dead right.
It’s a sad world we live in, were such a statement of common sense is newsworthy as somehow being a controversial opinion.
The state needs to start deporting failed asylum seekers, economic migrants, past and present. It is no more simple or complicated than that.
Now we’re talking
Very funny watching the three major parties attempt to go full Tory on social issues in an election year, because this line of thinking worked really well when the UK tried it! Certainly didn’t make Britain a global laughing stock!
As we’ve already seen, this sort of threat gives the Gardai power to abuse migrants and abuse they will
Damn, if only her political party (FF) was in power.
Maybe if we vote for them in the next election they’ll be able to undo all the harm from this current government. /s
She’s right. Proper order. She’ll be called out on racism for this but at least she said it like it is.
Obviously
Why would this be even a remotely controversial viewpoint
Finally some sense
Fair play to her for saying it out. Racism cards are going to be pulled now but it’s the truth.
How many more Ashling Murphy’s are there going to be before the country decides who’s coming in and who’s not.
You’d swear migrants were attacking/assaulting people everyday with the discourse now
Yes.
Is there an official category of “serious offence”?
But their policies are hardly any better.
It’s not as if a change of government will bring better policy (in this instance)
Ok put it into law or shut up. All talk.
Ok.
So why aren’t you doing it? It’s not even new, a visa can be rescinded, so can a citizenship in some cases.
So why don’t you?
So instead of punishing them and putting them in jail here we might be sending them back to countries at war in crisis etc where they might not face any jail time? Seems stupid
I’d be very pro immigration on both efficiency and equity grounds but I absolutely agree with this proposal. If you go to another country to commit a violent crime you should absolutely be deported. This rule would strengthen arguments in favour of immigration by ensuring an extra level of safety.
Makes sense.. instead of fixing the real issues, healthcare waiting lists, homelessness, a housing crisis… just distract with xenophobic and divisive issues.
It worked well for tories across the water.
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Sounds good? I would imagine there should be some conditions surely.
I think the government’s priority should be to ensure that innocent public members are protected from danger as much as possible.
If somebody is here as an asylum seeker and are a threat to the general public, they shouldn’t be in the country anymore.
We already have enough homegrown violence, why allow people to stay if they’re going to be a detriment to the country?
Ultimately it’s people who create unrest, war, discriminatory practices that lead to countries being unsafe to remain in. Bring in enough of the people in those source countries and you’re just going to transfer the same issues to here.
We can only remain a safe haven for asylum seekers if we ensure that our country is safe as well.
Should be happening already,
Is this even a controversial opinion?
Would be nice to deport locals for serious offences… To some uninhabited island
Makes sense
You’re a guest of the country, don’t act the maggot
Deported to where, though. If they got genuine asylum it’s because there’s a risk that going back wherever, they will be harmed. Everyone else is an economic migrant – and should be deported back to their safe country. Now for asylum seekers maybe you say “that’s their bad luck”, but now are we going to decide what crimes get you sent back to the taliban to be executed. Murders go, shoplifters don’t? And how does that stack up in law (we can’t extradite people to the US for certain crimes legally, because they have a death penalty).
So… simple to say, complex to do.
No shit, Lisa.
Imagine being a member of a party that literally bankrupted the entire country and put us all in thousands of euro of debt, telling us we should deport criminals. Start with your-fucking-selves.
So, you grant somebody asylum, basically saying they are not safe in their own country, but then you say they should be deported if the commit a crime.
Where do you deport them to? Back to the place that you agree is not safe for them?
That this is even up for debate is ridiculous. Their safety is more important than Irish citizens. It should be one strike and you’re out for any serious crime.
No shit Lisa but you are only saying that now as there is literally no other acceptable opinion that will get your little EU election campaign over the line.
Like all of them you are literally just saying this for votes and will go right back to doing nothing and being an EU stooge as soon as you are elected
No time for turncoat bitches sorry
She’s dead right.
It’s a sad world we live in, were such a statement of common sense is newsworthy as somehow being a controversial opinion.
The state needs to start deporting failed asylum seekers, economic migrants, past and present. It is no more simple or complicated than that.
Now we’re talking
Very funny watching the three major parties attempt to go full Tory on social issues in an election year, because this line of thinking worked really well when the UK tried it! Certainly didn’t make Britain a global laughing stock!
As we’ve already seen, this sort of threat gives the Gardai power to abuse migrants and abuse they will
[https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/garda-immigration-officer-jailed-for-sexual-assault-and-harassment-of-non-eu-nationals-1598886.html](https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/garda-immigration-officer-jailed-for-sexual-assault-and-harassment-of-non-eu-nationals-1598886.html)
[https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/four-gardai-charged-over-alleged-32309810](https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/four-gardai-charged-over-alleged-32309810)
Damn, if only her political party (FF) was in power.
Maybe if we vote for them in the next election they’ll be able to undo all the harm from this current government. /s
She’s right. Proper order. She’ll be called out on racism for this but at least she said it like it is.
Obviously
Why would this be even a remotely controversial viewpoint
Finally some sense
Fair play to her for saying it out. Racism cards are going to be pulled now but it’s the truth.
How many more Ashling Murphy’s are there going to be before the country decides who’s coming in and who’s not.
You’d swear migrants were attacking/assaulting people everyday with the discourse now
Yes.
Is there an official category of “serious offence”?
But their policies are hardly any better.
It’s not as if a change of government will bring better policy (in this instance)
Ok put it into law or shut up. All talk.
Ok.
So why aren’t you doing it? It’s not even new, a visa can be rescinded, so can a citizenship in some cases.
So why don’t you?
So instead of punishing them and putting them in jail here we might be sending them back to countries at war in crisis etc where they might not face any jail time? Seems stupid
I’d be very pro immigration on both efficiency and equity grounds but I absolutely agree with this proposal. If you go to another country to commit a violent crime you should absolutely be deported. This rule would strengthen arguments in favour of immigration by ensuring an extra level of safety.
Makes sense.. instead of fixing the real issues, healthcare waiting lists, homelessness, a housing crisis… just distract with xenophobic and divisive issues.
It worked well for tories across the water.
This just seems like common sense
Surley this is common sense