President Duda vows that Poland would defend Lithuania in case of attack

https://www.delfi.lt/en/politics/president-duda-vows-that-poland-would-defend-lithuania-in-case-of-attack-96341405

by ianrustem

41 comments

  1. The boys are back 💪 (referring to the Commonwealth, not Duda and his cronies)

  2. i mean, duh? they’re both NATO countries so isn’t that automatic?

  3. >A drowning person is extremely dangerous, capable of pulling you down to the depths … simply drown the rescuer.

    (c) Poland.

  4. When the attack really happens, it will become “hey that’s not what we really meant”

  6. So he vows to honor article 5? Looks like a PR stunt to me.

  9. When will the Winged Hussars arrive?

    Tooo too, too too Tooo too too Tooo..

  10. But wasn’t that vow taken when they joined nato?

  11. Well yeah they’re in NATO together.
    On another news, Poland VOWS to DEFEND Latvia. And Estonia. And Finland. And all members of NATO…

  12. I’ll be honest this is one of the scarier guarantees, because Duda is the last person to be thinking of security guarantees from Russian encroachment. That this is legitimately on their mind as a possibility and they’re the one saying it somehow makes it seem more real

  13. Lenkija – Lietuvos Motina. Bent jau taip gali atsitikti jei Rusai užpuls.

    Poland – the Mother of Lithuania. Well at least it can happen if Russia invades Lithuania.

    Poland was more of a Step Mother to Lithuania throughout the ages, but recently the relationships have Improved.

  16. You guys are so bitchy, let him have a moment, at least it was positive and not something ridiculous.

  22. You need to defend Ukraine 🇺🇦 not Lithuania…. it’s easy to speak for the future not for the current moment… 🤦‍♂️🙃, Italy 🇮🇹

  24. Sounds good and all… But isn’t this actually undermining article 5?

  25. Yeah now let’s get the rest of NATO to grow a pair and start pushing those fucking shits back to their lovely free country they already have.

  26. This is sweet and all but for the time being can we please focus on helping Ukraine?

  28. Sorry, but I am still impressed by the other post with the Spanish gay dude that was eating his own shit…

  29. I may insult some people’s feelings but feel good “values/policy” signaling does not bend the reality at hand, like it or not.

    He has no real say and any decision-making power when it comes to defence policy, Polish president is mostly just empty figurehead, and **that** particular fool loves to stroke own ego with such PR takes, clearly out of his line, PM is the one that would decide on what type of Article 5 linked action country would decide to take or not, and PM is the person that can make such grandiose statments of intent.

    Not the guy that is on his way out of office in 11months time, he just wants some sweet job in one of those far-right think-tank’s in US, and with such statments he thinks he gets some favors towards that end XD

    And how he says it, it could imply that we are ready to go head on, and even all alone(Polish military certainty ain’t ready for confrontation like that), just hoping that others in EU/Nato will sooner or later follow.

    Noone inside polish electorate would ever agree or support unilateral action in defence of anyone located in such high risk area in which Baltic states are sadly located in,with Belarus and Kaliningrad just to close to comfort looking at size of Polish military, its either all hands on the deck with entire Nato combined reaction from day one,or Polish army will be defending our eastern border and nothing else.

    Im not even gonna mention all the issues rotting down PL-LIT relations that for decades undermined public support for such high risk unilateral(or even multilateral) action, with high levels of russian shitposting about Poles living there being mistreated or some other shit, flooding polish speaking infosphere, when topics like military support for Lithuania comes up in media.

  30. Poland is years away from having any military potential and the recent reviews indicate that the deals with Korea were total shit. There will be no 1000 K2 panthers or polish production of these. There will be no hundreds of choonmo nor 500 himars. There will be no ammo on the level needed nor spare parts. The helicopters ordered will show up bare bone with no modern technology. Fuck PiS propaganda.

  31. He doesn’t have to vow such a thing. All EU Member States are [obligated](https://ecfr.eu/article/commentary_article_427_an_explainer5019/) to do so.

    >“If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance **by all the means in their power**, in accordance with article 51 of the United Nations charter.”

    In a certain way, article 42(7) of the EU Treaty (mutual defense clause) goes further than article 5 of the NATO Treaty, since it states that that EU Member States should respond *by all the means in their power*. Article 5 of the NATO Treaty doesn’t use words of such magnitude.

  32. I’m reading the comments and I’d advise you guys to read the whole NATO treaty and understand what is behind article 5. It’s not automatic, in fact NATO has no means to force anyone to help. When it was invoked last time, did every NATO country went “all in” to Afghanistan?

    “[…]will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.”

    Maybe someone won’t deem as necessary to send military force.

    The decision is still in hands of politicians of every NATO country. This means that’s is good to hear such declarations, especially from Poland as it will be the main force to go to the Baltics.

  33. It’s in Poland’s strategic interest – it’s easier to defend Lithuanian terrain than it is to defend Poland, fight takes place away from Polish civilians and we retain trust and credibility as allies in NATO. 
    Of course, there’s also a fact that you’re our friends, but in international politics I’d put more stock in national interests.

  36. They are both in NATO so they will help even without saying

  38. I thought we all know about NATO an how it works no? How is thi big news?

    No I’m kidding I inderstand that statements like this only increase trust and stability in the institution that is NATO and EU.

  39. Even these words alone can matter a lot.

    Still, I do wonder if any joint Polish-Lithuanian military drills will be done.

  40. Let’s not forget a very important comment here: NA POHYBEL RUSKIM!

  41. I’m not a fanboy of Poland but you look around and they make countries like France seem yuck.. they are actually fighting the good fight. Poland isn’t saying one thing, doing another. Poland is really really trying. It’s mostly due to their history and threat of Putin at their border but the reasoning doesnt matter.. it matters that they actually give a fuck. They’re not trying to build up their military industrial complex like France is doing hardcore while also giving so little to Ukraine.. but dont worry, France has plenty of excuses.. one of the worlds top weapons makers with endless excuses to why they can barely give anything to Ukraine.

    I dont care for some of Polands attacks on various freedoms and core democracy that’s been highlighted by the EU but if I were to vote on what country is doing the most, it’d be Poland.

    I’d go as far as saying that Poland is a model for the EU in how we shift.. we dont need to shift far but there are minor aspects to how they think that we could adopt to better ourselves. Finland too.

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