Climate warrior Jane Goodall isn’t sold on carbon taxes and electric vehicles

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1. You can tell who the author is voting for just by reading the title.

2. meow

3. So this is the world we want vs the reality we live in

   I agree with Jane Goodall that we should just cut fossil fuels off. But how does that happen when fossil fuels are the blood of the economy? Gradually? Fast? What is the plan?

   And what about voters? How will they react? Is it a plan that will not be overturned by the next govt (ah hem… looking at you 🇨🇦)

   She says carbon taxes only hurt the poor and the companies can pay the tax. But carbon rebates like canada has are meant to take that first argument away.
   But the main point of taxes in general is to deter behavior. Taxing carbon steeply… would incentivize the economy to find alternatives more quickly (or create a black market but thats another matter).

   What is the plan for “just stopping fossil fuels” like she encourages? I support it. I am on your team. But I think its not possible in this current reality we live in.

4. yeah i’ll take solutions that work over perfect solutions any day of the week.

5. How is it in a ‘climate’ sub, that nearly all of the posters think BAU is possible? How can so many of you claim ‘but the economy’ when ‘the economy’ literally is the CAUSE of the problems we face?

6. It’s a start, but we have to do more, especially at this point because I think we are beyond the tipping point.

7. -company creates products.. but pollutes to do so-

   -government makes extra taxes designed to punish companies that pollute-

   -company raises prices to offset-

   -people pay more for product.. nothing changes except people have less money-

   -Companies and governments celebrate themselves and congratulate each other on doing everything they needed to do-

8. Is it just me or does it sound like she mistook Canada’s carbon fee and dividend approach for a “fee and spend” approach, where the government takes the revenue from the carbon tax and spends it on green energy initiatives? Honestly, I think that this article is pigeonholing her stance into Canada’s domestic debate on carbon pricing, and her point is getting lost in the process.

9. I like the idea of a windfall tax applied to fossil industries. Record profits, record damages, record payments by the industries that do that damage. Polluter pay. Steal from the super-rich and give to the poor so they can afford to make the switch to heat pumps etc..

10. Jevons paradox

11. OP’s shared article says, and I quote….

    ***”Goodall said carbon taxes are ‘not a bad thing at all’…”***

    But of course gas/oil/coal fanatics are unlikely to fairly and accurately report what she *really* thinks, which seems to be that the GLOBAL climate SYSTEM is a problem requiring “integrated” GLOBAL solutions, including (1) Just leave it in the ground; (2) wealthy nations kicking the fossil fuel habit; and (3) money from wealthy nations flowing to less wealthy nations to help them kick the fossil fuel habit. Here is the statement from the JGI to COP28 [https://news.janegoodall.org/2023/11/30/an-urgent-call-for-integrated-solutions-at-cop28/](https://news.janegoodall.org/2023/11/30/an-urgent-call-for-integrated-solutions-at-cop28/)

    If solving climate change is like carving Michelangelo’s “David”, one nation’s internal carbon tax might be a few whacks with the hammer, so it helps. Still, it is a mistake to think that alone makes a finished masterpiece!