It’s about time. The level of red light running has become ridiculous. Red often means two more cars now.
Whenever I come back for a visit I’m genuinely shocked by red light jumping here. It’s absolutely off the charts and I can’t fathom how so many people think it’s OK to do. I saw a man almost getting run over as he was crossing at a green man light over Christmas.
>Mr Ryan said he was on Monday afternoon getting a briefing on the procurement of the cameras, which will also be used to fine motorists using bus lanes.
Ooh yes
And of course cyclists will be included in this right? Just so the roads are balanced and everyone is following the same rules.
I cycle into work in the early morning along the canals in Dublin and I count how many cars run the lights. It’s never less than 2, and has been as 8 across 3 bridges. It’s pretty high. It’s worse on the way back.
NWO
About time. It has gotten a lot worse. Buuuut. Any smarter people than me able to say how this will be enforced?
Wasn’t it the case that a lot of speeding fines are gotten out of, by the offender claiming someone else was driving the car, or is that an urban myth? If it is the case, can the same be used with this?
Ahhh the good times are over lads. Guess we’re obeying some traffic laws now
Only those who usually make the infractions would complain about it.
This could be the best thing Ryan has done…ever. Or has he just announced it?
As much as this is a welcome idea, how many road deaths occurred this year due to people running red lights?
Fair enough
good start. cant believe how bad the red light breaking has got. now for cameras to catch people parking illegally, especially at bus stops or on footpaths!!
As people are getting more impatient, things are getting worse. A really bad spot is just off to the left of the above image – you have two long, straight one-way streets crossing (Boru St/Bridge, and Penrose/St. Patrick’s Quay) and with the building and hoarding on the ‘inside’ you’ve no visibility until the last second. So you’ve cars rushing to make the red on one side and cars approaching the lights as they go green from the other – some big accidents.
Plus you’ve drivers driving onto the yellow boxes and getting stuck on them – so cars are blocked on Green and moving only on Red (probably can’t even see any traffic lights if they’re in the yellow box). Good luck crossing the street in those scenarios.
Ireland following Europe and the rest of the world 15 years+ 1 year again ahah
Good stuff. Need cameras to catch people staring at phones as well. Somehow…
About time they did something.
Hopefully it doesn’t take forever to get this up and running.
Camera for breaking red lights and driving in bus lanes will make a huge difference.
Would like to see cameras on bus and luas for all those pricks who block the junctions.
Once they start fining people for this shit it won’t be long until they is a massive change in peoples attitudes.
A few years ago I was behind a mini bus for the Irish Wheelchair association. Carrying passengers. Stopped at a red light… and suddenly took off.
I wrote a message to the company informing them since they had passengers! That must be 8 years or so ago. And red light running was alien. Seems to be every other car now.
What happened over covid drivers just totally forgot road ethics.
I got beeped at recently for **not** running a red light, the van driver behind me was livid I stopped on an amber light! It’s so frequent and so dangerous all over the country, this would be fantastic to introduce. It’s also mentioned in the article that these cameras will capture people using the bus lanes, hallelujah!!
People like to shit on the Greens a lot (myself included at times!) but if they bring this in I’d be very happy. How we haven’t had these in place for years already is beyond me.
The article also gives some figures for the pilot scheme they ran in 2015 at a single junction, €30K to install the cameras, 813 violations in just 6 months. Minimum €80 fine per offence, rising to €120 if not paid in 28 days. None of the prosecutions were successfully appealed, so 813 x €80 = €65K in fines in just 6 months!
They need to install those cameras like in Australia where they’re down facing to catch people on their phones while driving
Great news. Another great initiative by the Green party that I’m sure the Daily Mail, the Irish Independent and other tabloid newspapers will congratulate them on enacting.
Have them here in Canada. Got done once, it was like $340
> Automated red light cameras were introduced on a pilot basis in **2015** on traffic lights at the junction of Blackhall Place and the Luas Red Line in Dublin’s north inner city by then Minister for Transport Paschal Donohoe.
> The cameras, which cost €30,000 to install, were operated for just six months, but in that time, **813 violations** of the light were detected. Twelve offences involved road users breaking the red light more than 50 seconds after it appeared, 410 drove through the junction between five and 50 seconds after the red light appeared, while 391 detections were within five seconds.
> Red-light offences incur three penalty points and an €80 fine, rising to €120 if not paid within 28 days. **There were no successful court appeals against prosecutions as a result of the pilot scheme.**
So if all 813 violators were fined this pilot scheme more than covered the installation cost in half a year.
It’s difficult to comprehend why the government apparently dropped this nearly a decade ago.
Next all wanks will be reported directly to your priest.
Never anything to make traffic flow more smoothly.
Before you downvote – I’m not suggesting running red lights is justified.
Rather, I’m suggesting human behaviour is only controllable to a point.
Driving a vehicle is an unbelievably frustrating experience in Dublin, only getting worse by the day.
Humans will continue to try and find ways around/through their frustrations, usually in undesirable ways.
Instead of setting more restrictions, why not reduce the frustrations?
Failing an overnight change to public transit infrastructure, this problem isn’t going away.
So could we make driving easier? Or is just too out of touch with the times to even discuss the rational merits of doing so?
G’wan Eamon, y’a big ride
A step closer to China totalitarian like rule.
Oooh this will be like a ‘wet’ dream 🤣
There aren’t many traffic lights in Letterkenny, but one would hope for cameras to issue fines for maniacs driving with fog lights in clear day or when it’s pissing rain, or making an illegal turn.
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It’s about time. The level of red light running has become ridiculous. Red often means two more cars now.
Whenever I come back for a visit I’m genuinely shocked by red light jumping here. It’s absolutely off the charts and I can’t fathom how so many people think it’s OK to do. I saw a man almost getting run over as he was crossing at a green man light over Christmas.
>Mr Ryan said he was on Monday afternoon getting a briefing on the procurement of the cameras, which will also be used to fine motorists using bus lanes.
Ooh yes
And of course cyclists will be included in this right? Just so the roads are balanced and everyone is following the same rules.
I cycle into work in the early morning along the canals in Dublin and I count how many cars run the lights. It’s never less than 2, and has been as 8 across 3 bridges. It’s pretty high. It’s worse on the way back.
NWO
About time. It has gotten a lot worse. Buuuut. Any smarter people than me able to say how this will be enforced?
Wasn’t it the case that a lot of speeding fines are gotten out of, by the offender claiming someone else was driving the car, or is that an urban myth? If it is the case, can the same be used with this?
Ahhh the good times are over lads. Guess we’re obeying some traffic laws now
Only those who usually make the infractions would complain about it.
This could be the best thing Ryan has done…ever. Or has he just announced it?
As much as this is a welcome idea, how many road deaths occurred this year due to people running red lights?
Fair enough
good start. cant believe how bad the red light breaking has got. now for cameras to catch people parking illegally, especially at bus stops or on footpaths!!
As people are getting more impatient, things are getting worse. A really bad spot is just off to the left of the above image – you have two long, straight one-way streets crossing (Boru St/Bridge, and Penrose/St. Patrick’s Quay) and with the building and hoarding on the ‘inside’ you’ve no visibility until the last second. So you’ve cars rushing to make the red on one side and cars approaching the lights as they go green from the other – some big accidents.
Plus you’ve drivers driving onto the yellow boxes and getting stuck on them – so cars are blocked on Green and moving only on Red (probably can’t even see any traffic lights if they’re in the yellow box). Good luck crossing the street in those scenarios.
Ireland following Europe and the rest of the world 15 years+ 1 year again ahah
Good stuff. Need cameras to catch people staring at phones as well. Somehow…
About time they did something.
Hopefully it doesn’t take forever to get this up and running.
Camera for breaking red lights and driving in bus lanes will make a huge difference.
Would like to see cameras on bus and luas for all those pricks who block the junctions.
Once they start fining people for this shit it won’t be long until they is a massive change in peoples attitudes.
A few years ago I was behind a mini bus for the Irish Wheelchair association. Carrying passengers. Stopped at a red light… and suddenly took off.
I wrote a message to the company informing them since they had passengers! That must be 8 years or so ago. And red light running was alien. Seems to be every other car now.
What happened over covid drivers just totally forgot road ethics.
I got beeped at recently for **not** running a red light, the van driver behind me was livid I stopped on an amber light! It’s so frequent and so dangerous all over the country, this would be fantastic to introduce. It’s also mentioned in the article that these cameras will capture people using the bus lanes, hallelujah!!
People like to shit on the Greens a lot (myself included at times!) but if they bring this in I’d be very happy. How we haven’t had these in place for years already is beyond me.
The article also gives some figures for the pilot scheme they ran in 2015 at a single junction, €30K to install the cameras, 813 violations in just 6 months. Minimum €80 fine per offence, rising to €120 if not paid in 28 days. None of the prosecutions were successfully appealed, so 813 x €80 = €65K in fines in just 6 months!
They need to install those cameras like in Australia where they’re down facing to catch people on their phones while driving
Great news. Another great initiative by the Green party that I’m sure the Daily Mail, the Irish Independent and other tabloid newspapers will congratulate them on enacting.
Have them here in Canada. Got done once, it was like $340
> Automated red light cameras were introduced on a pilot basis in **2015** on traffic lights at the junction of Blackhall Place and the Luas Red Line in Dublin’s north inner city by then Minister for Transport Paschal Donohoe.
> The cameras, which cost €30,000 to install, were operated for just six months, but in that time, **813 violations** of the light were detected. Twelve offences involved road users breaking the red light more than 50 seconds after it appeared, 410 drove through the junction between five and 50 seconds after the red light appeared, while 391 detections were within five seconds.
> Red-light offences incur three penalty points and an €80 fine, rising to €120 if not paid within 28 days. **There were no successful court appeals against prosecutions as a result of the pilot scheme.**
So if all 813 violators were fined this pilot scheme more than covered the installation cost in half a year.
It’s difficult to comprehend why the government apparently dropped this nearly a decade ago.
Next all wanks will be reported directly to your priest.
Never anything to make traffic flow more smoothly.
Before you downvote – I’m not suggesting running red lights is justified.
Rather, I’m suggesting human behaviour is only controllable to a point.
Driving a vehicle is an unbelievably frustrating experience in Dublin, only getting worse by the day.
Humans will continue to try and find ways around/through their frustrations, usually in undesirable ways.
Instead of setting more restrictions, why not reduce the frustrations?
Failing an overnight change to public transit infrastructure, this problem isn’t going away.
So could we make driving easier? Or is just too out of touch with the times to even discuss the rational merits of doing so?
G’wan Eamon, y’a big ride
A step closer to China totalitarian like rule.
Oooh this will be like a ‘wet’ dream 🤣
There aren’t many traffic lights in Letterkenny, but one would hope for cameras to issue fines for maniacs driving with fog lights in clear day or when it’s pissing rain, or making an illegal turn.