>The Finnish government has decided to indefinitely close border traffic with Russia. In practice, this means that at 19 land crossings along the entire border with a length of over 1.3 thousand km, traffic will be completely closed.
>Finland has closed its land borders with Russia due to migration pressure from Moscow. The Kremlin services make it easier for visitors from Asia and Africa to reach the border with Finland.
Why couldn’t similar measures be taken to safeguard the rest of Europe from these migrants?
I wonder why the Uk struggles with closing its border, especially as an island
>>African/Middle-Eastern illegal immigrants arriving through Russia = terrorists, subversives, a threat to our way of life
>>The exact same illegal immigrants but they arrive directly to Europe = scientists, doctors, our greatest strength
its sad, [DELETED] , someones just dont wanna die in meat grinder
Makes perfect sense
Wow so it really is as simple as just closing the border 🤔
huh ?? but i thought it was impossible to close the borders of Europe ? Have i been lied to this whole time ?
They gonna get called fascists by the European and American left
Finally
stops fifth columnists getting in as well
good decision.
The EU should drop all illegal immigrants of at the Russian Finnish border
r/europe every single time a brown guy commits a crime: SHUT THE BORDERS NOW!!!
r/europe when borders indeed are getting shut: HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!
I really start to believe a good bunch of you are Russian bots.
I’m sure Germany will take them
Wow, they refused all these engineers and doctors?
But when Hungary closed its borders to illegal migrants. Oh boy…
I thought they build a fence and closed it already months ago?
Finland can close its borders to stop migrants but Greece and the balkans couldn’t to stop the ones from Turkey?
Someone realised that it has all freedom to do with it’s own country.
Liberal leftists : oh noooooo racists, how dare you !
Only took 2 years (or more)…. guess better late than never?
Wtf does “putin’s migrants mean”
When 100 migrants are sent from Russia: CLOSE THE BORDERS
When 1000 migrants are sent daily from Morocco and neighbouring countries to the canaries: radio silence
Putin’s migrants? That’s another money click headline .
So to be clear, the border has been completely closed since november 2023, almost 6 months already. This is not a new thing. Altough government makes a new desicion to extend the closesure every 2 months or so.
So this started in autumn 2023. Then Russia stopped screening 3rd country people on their side of the border, unlike before. This caused high number of 3rd country nationals who were staying in Russia to try getting to Finland to apply asylym. There are also some amount of Russian nationals who have applied asylym, but their number is much lower, and a big reason is that Russia deosn’t let Russian nationals to Finnish border without a reason.
So the information about the possibility spread, which caused more people to do so. In couple of weeks thousands of people applied asylym in Finland. So there were two reasons why this happened; Russia made it possible because they ended screening of 3rd country people, which caused natural interest to apply asylym in Finland because it became possible. Another reason is that Russia also actively involved in getting asylym seekers to the border; there are plenty of proof that Russian border guard actively transported people in the border zone using their cars and also sold bicycles to the people.
Finland then closed the whole border, because numbers just kept increasing, and it has been kept closed since. It was open for 2 days in december, but the same situation immediately returned. And border closesure has worked, near zero people have crossed the border since.
The legal situation with asylym seekers is quite challenging, because if a person applies asylym from Finnish authorities, it has to be processed. And in many cases returning of the asylym seekers in case the application is rejected is challenging. Russia won’t take them back, and neither is their original country in many cases.
So under current legislation it’s challenging to prevent asylym seekers coming to country if they can get to the finnish border. Only option has been to close the entire border and prevent all movement. This doesn’t really affect finns, because only a very small number of finns are living in Russia, and Russian tourism here was already blocked. It probably harms Russians living in Finland (close to 100,000), who can’t meet their relatives as easily.
Current goverment is making legislation that would make it possible to turn away people at border even if they would probably be applying asylym. The legislation has some potential clashes with international agreements, like united nations refugee convention. But even when it’s likely to have some contradictions with international agreements, it looks like that most European countries and EU commission silently approve tougher legislation. Like previous situations in EU-Belarus border shows; Poland, Latvia and Lithuania turned away people using force, and Commission just offered more help via frontex.
Oh. So we *can* close borders to stop migrants. Telling.
When Denmark, Hungsry, Czech, and Poland did this, leftists were screaming “racists” at them….
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>The Finnish government has decided to indefinitely close border traffic with Russia. In practice, this means that at 19 land crossings along the entire border with a length of over 1.3 thousand km, traffic will be completely closed.
>Finland has closed its land borders with Russia due to migration pressure from Moscow. The Kremlin services make it easier for visitors from Asia and Africa to reach the border with Finland.
Why couldn’t similar measures be taken to safeguard the rest of Europe from these migrants?
I wonder why the Uk struggles with closing its border, especially as an island
>>African/Middle-Eastern illegal immigrants arriving through Russia = terrorists, subversives, a threat to our way of life
>>The exact same illegal immigrants but they arrive directly to Europe = scientists, doctors, our greatest strength
its sad, [DELETED] , someones just dont wanna die in meat grinder
Makes perfect sense
Wow so it really is as simple as just closing the border 🤔
huh ?? but i thought it was impossible to close the borders of Europe ? Have i been lied to this whole time ?
They gonna get called fascists by the European and American left
Finally
stops fifth columnists getting in as well
good decision.
The EU should drop all illegal immigrants of at the Russian Finnish border
r/europe every single time a brown guy commits a crime: SHUT THE BORDERS NOW!!!
r/europe when borders indeed are getting shut: HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!
I really start to believe a good bunch of you are Russian bots.
I’m sure Germany will take them
Wow, they refused all these engineers and doctors?
But when Hungary closed its borders to illegal migrants. Oh boy…
I thought they build a fence and closed it already months ago?
Finland can close its borders to stop migrants but Greece and the balkans couldn’t to stop the ones from Turkey?
Someone realised that it has all freedom to do with it’s own country.
Liberal leftists : oh noooooo racists, how dare you !
Only took 2 years (or more)…. guess better late than never?
Wtf does “putin’s migrants mean”
When 100 migrants are sent from Russia: CLOSE THE BORDERS
When 1000 migrants are sent daily from Morocco and neighbouring countries to the canaries: radio silence
Putin’s migrants? That’s another money click headline .
So to be clear, the border has been completely closed since november 2023, almost 6 months already. This is not a new thing. Altough government makes a new desicion to extend the closesure every 2 months or so.
So this started in autumn 2023. Then Russia stopped screening 3rd country people on their side of the border, unlike before. This caused high number of 3rd country nationals who were staying in Russia to try getting to Finland to apply asylym. There are also some amount of Russian nationals who have applied asylym, but their number is much lower, and a big reason is that Russia deosn’t let Russian nationals to Finnish border without a reason.
So the information about the possibility spread, which caused more people to do so. In couple of weeks thousands of people applied asylym in Finland. So there were two reasons why this happened; Russia made it possible because they ended screening of 3rd country people, which caused natural interest to apply asylym in Finland because it became possible. Another reason is that Russia also actively involved in getting asylym seekers to the border; there are plenty of proof that Russian border guard actively transported people in the border zone using their cars and also sold bicycles to the people.
Finland then closed the whole border, because numbers just kept increasing, and it has been kept closed since. It was open for 2 days in december, but the same situation immediately returned. And border closesure has worked, near zero people have crossed the border since.
The legal situation with asylym seekers is quite challenging, because if a person applies asylym from Finnish authorities, it has to be processed. And in many cases returning of the asylym seekers in case the application is rejected is challenging. Russia won’t take them back, and neither is their original country in many cases.
So under current legislation it’s challenging to prevent asylym seekers coming to country if they can get to the finnish border. Only option has been to close the entire border and prevent all movement. This doesn’t really affect finns, because only a very small number of finns are living in Russia, and Russian tourism here was already blocked. It probably harms Russians living in Finland (close to 100,000), who can’t meet their relatives as easily.
Current goverment is making legislation that would make it possible to turn away people at border even if they would probably be applying asylym. The legislation has some potential clashes with international agreements, like united nations refugee convention. But even when it’s likely to have some contradictions with international agreements, it looks like that most European countries and EU commission silently approve tougher legislation. Like previous situations in EU-Belarus border shows; Poland, Latvia and Lithuania turned away people using force, and Commission just offered more help via frontex.
Oh. So we *can* close borders to stop migrants. Telling.
When Denmark, Hungsry, Czech, and Poland did this, leftists were screaming “racists” at them….