How could anyone afford to do an apprenticeship? Below are the Apprentice rates at ESB
Year 1 €12,290.00
Year 2 €18,438.00
Year 3 €26,633.00
Year 4 €32,780.00
People in this thread are missing the point, it doesn’t matter if students in 3rd level don’t get paid at all, we NEED as many tradespeople as possible to get our house construction numbers to where they need to be. If that means pushing these wages up to a level where there’s less of a drop out rate the government should be doing it.
People always talk about just toughing it out until your third year and your on decent money the problem is for your first year you come home after tax with about 250 to 300 euro unless your getting support and living with your parents that’s not possible you can’t run a car, buy tools, eat, pay rent etc for that money
I am hearing a lot of complaints though about the quality of new apprentices. Solas has dumbed down a lot of the old FAS courses to get people through and it shows in their work.
Reddit tech bros in this thread being out of touch with the difficulties of doing a manual labour job while earning fuck all.
If I was a young person now, I’d pay to do an apprenticeship. The amount of money in this industry now is staggering.
A lot of people drop out of all sorts of things they’re not suited to after a trial period. Trades can be tough, so can an engineering degree.
This sub is all about Schrödinger’s tradie: you’ll hear how it’s an amazing career track, but not for me—somebody else. You’ll hear how anyone under the age of 30 not in a trade is lazy—except for me.
Your average office worker isn’t going to transform into a carpenter and the average tradesperson isn’t going to turn into a teacher because you have a rage horn against arts degrees.
The dropouts are due to the courses actually being difficult predominantly.
I am out of e&I 5 years ago, and of the twelve of us that started only 7 finished. The 5 that failed, failed because they couldn’t pass the exams.
Getting a trade is by no means a gimme. You need to be relatively smart and studious.
Typically a lot of the guys that go for apprenticeships just are not smart enough. 30 years ago there was far smarter guys going through trades as 3rd level wasn’t a real option. The guys I work with in their 50s, are real properly intelligent lads, whom if they were born 10-15 years would no doubt would have went down the more ‘academic’ route. Now almost every tom dick and harry go to 3rd meaning a lot of the real low level guys go to a trade
I’ve done an apprenticeship, worked in a trade for years. I’ve also a degree.
We are probably going to see more dropouts because a lot of younger people can’t grasp how difficult a trade apprenticeship can be in real life. and go into it treating it like they’re doing DIY or something at home.
9 comments
How could anyone afford to do an apprenticeship? Below are the Apprentice rates at ESB
Year 1 €12,290.00
Year 2 €18,438.00
Year 3 €26,633.00
Year 4 €32,780.00
People in this thread are missing the point, it doesn’t matter if students in 3rd level don’t get paid at all, we NEED as many tradespeople as possible to get our house construction numbers to where they need to be. If that means pushing these wages up to a level where there’s less of a drop out rate the government should be doing it.
People always talk about just toughing it out until your third year and your on decent money the problem is for your first year you come home after tax with about 250 to 300 euro unless your getting support and living with your parents that’s not possible you can’t run a car, buy tools, eat, pay rent etc for that money
I am hearing a lot of complaints though about the quality of new apprentices. Solas has dumbed down a lot of the old FAS courses to get people through and it shows in their work.
Reddit tech bros in this thread being out of touch with the difficulties of doing a manual labour job while earning fuck all.
If I was a young person now, I’d pay to do an apprenticeship. The amount of money in this industry now is staggering.
A lot of people drop out of all sorts of things they’re not suited to after a trial period. Trades can be tough, so can an engineering degree.
This sub is all about Schrödinger’s tradie: you’ll hear how it’s an amazing career track, but not for me—somebody else. You’ll hear how anyone under the age of 30 not in a trade is lazy—except for me.
Your average office worker isn’t going to transform into a carpenter and the average tradesperson isn’t going to turn into a teacher because you have a rage horn against arts degrees.
The dropouts are due to the courses actually being difficult predominantly.
I am out of e&I 5 years ago, and of the twelve of us that started only 7 finished. The 5 that failed, failed because they couldn’t pass the exams.
Getting a trade is by no means a gimme. You need to be relatively smart and studious.
Typically a lot of the guys that go for apprenticeships just are not smart enough. 30 years ago there was far smarter guys going through trades as 3rd level wasn’t a real option. The guys I work with in their 50s, are real properly intelligent lads, whom if they were born 10-15 years would no doubt would have went down the more ‘academic’ route. Now almost every tom dick and harry go to 3rd meaning a lot of the real low level guys go to a trade
I’ve done an apprenticeship, worked in a trade for years. I’ve also a degree.
We are probably going to see more dropouts because a lot of younger people can’t grasp how difficult a trade apprenticeship can be in real life. and go into it treating it like they’re doing DIY or something at home.