Tories slump to lowest poll rating against Labour since 2013 but minister says PM can win next election

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  1. *Cabinet minister who was only in cabinet because of Johnson, and knows he’ll be reshuffled out into the wilderness the second Johnson is gone.

  2. # Murdoch.

    Murdoch will win the next election. For whoever he fucking chooses. If his papers decide to back Tommy Robinson, then say hello to PM Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

  3. Sad thing is he probably can
    There will be too much division over the non-tory votes to create any real opposition

  4. Look at the Daily Mail’s front page today “Operation Save Boris – PM’s fulsome apology”.

    The Editorial inside is evening more forthright: “He might be a lying, incompetent, corrupt piece of shit but what do *you* care about that, plebs? He’s *our* man, we put him there, he’s there to do *our* bidding i.e. keep taxes down for the rich, maintain the status quo, and keep finding new ways to siphon off the money of the 99% into the pockets of us, the 1%, and you’ll do as we say AGAIN, won’t you? You thick fucking imbeciles.”

  5. If this cretin wins another election there is no hope for humanity and I would consider drowning myself in the bath.

  6. If they win the next GE then as harsh as it sounds the UK is full of genuinely stupid people, I can’t even comprehend how thick you would have to be to vote them in next GE.

    e: If you vote conservative you are either selfish, or stupid – sorry but given the last ~~11~~ **50** years it’s the only logical explanation, also I am fairly stupid too, just enough brain cells to not vote against my own interests every election.

  7. Johnson could win the public over in the run-up to the next election. It would mean having to do some very un-Tory-like things, such as adequately funding the NHS, investing outside of London and the Home Counties, and improving the lives of those on benefits; it’s a tall ask, but he could do it. You’d then expect him to reverse all that once elected again though.

    People have short-term memories when it comes to politics, they will vote for whoever promises them whatever they want/need. If Johnson has enough to point to and say “I did that.” then he could easily win.

  8. The contempt they hold us in. They just think we are morons that would vote for them regardless of what happens. If they get voted for again then maybe we are morons.

  9. Of course he’ll win. There was never any doubt about it. I mean it has nothing to do with how many votes he will or won’t get, he’ll still win. The tories will win every general election for the rest of our lives, regardless of votes.

  10. I put in the numbers from this single poll into the Britain elects calculator (Note, the SNP and PC figures missing decimal point make it very hard to get good regional estimates). The SNP wins every scottish seat except 1, with 62.8% of the socttish vote. PC takes a lot of seats (bearing in mind rounding very important here with 44% vote in Wales from 2% UK wide) and gets 19 seats.

    This leaves us with:

    Labour: 311

    Conservatives: 214

    SNP: 58

    LD: 28

    PC: 19

    Greens: 1

    Speaker: 1

    NI: 18.

    This would Leave labour with their choice of PC, Lid Dem or SNP to get a majority (326 needed).

  11. Few days back when all newspapers had large front page titles with Boris having a lockdown party, the S*n had only info about Novak Djokovic.

  12. Well of course they can win the next election. It’s an abusive relationship. Tory voters have been told that nobody else “gets” them, they’re told who to hate and what three-word phrases to repeat to cement the abusers in their mind. They’re told to hate things just to hate them – anything from immigrants that do jobs others won’t do, to the shape of bananas. They don’t know WHY they have to hate people because of bananas, but all that matters to the abusers is they repeat the words they’re given. Words lock them into the relationship.

    Even though they haven’t had it this bad, they’re told a relationship with someone else would be just as bad AND that actually they’ve never had it so good (Boris is the “best PM ever”…)

    Eventually they just become shells of their former self, trying to convince themselves that maybe it would still be worse in the EU because of bananas.

    And when they finally get a chance to leave the relationship, just like so many abused people before them, they go right back to the abuse.

  13. Rees Mogg basically saying “well now we’ve been caught breaking them, maybe the rules were too tough”.

    Honestly can’t believe this shit anymore.

  14. The next PM doesn’t want to have to own the May election result. They’ll go for his jugular after that, relaunch the party agenda in the party conference and have 18 months to the general election to double down on gerrymandering, xenophobia and sweet optimism. They’ll probably manage to sneak another term then unleash tough love (cuts) on the economy whilst they continue to weaken oversight, governance, the economy, and democracy generally. The only thing I haven’t figured out yet is if the odious and hungry Liz Truss, the billionaire Rishi or pretty evil Patel will get the gig.

  15. And a new news channel from Murdoch coming soon to the UK. With his mate Piers coming in March/April.

  16. To be honest we could find out Boris is the secret love child of Stalin and Hitler and a newspaper has documented proof of his intention to kill us all using a 6ft rubber dildo, I’d still put 20 squid down on the Tories beating Labour next election, Labour are like tits on a nun, you know they are there but they are fecking useless. (just hoping for once they get their act together in time…. )

  17. I’m inclined to believe it. Never underestimate the stupidity/selfishness of the voting population. Recent history has proven that we are easy to manipulate when voting season comes around

  18. … by declaring opposition political campaigning illegal and introducing arbitrary voting requirements to favour themselves.

  19. Honestly I think it’s a given that they’ll win the next election.

    The fact is we’re still years away from the next election, so when it comes this issue regarding the parties will be forgotten about.

    And when the election goes into full swing, frankly they do a really good job at attacking their opponents.

    So we end up with people repeating some variation of the same old tired argument:

    “Sure they’re not great, but could you imagine things if X were in charge?”

    I might be thinking rather pessimistically here, but I really don’t see it going any other way.

  20. Polls years away from an election are so unreliable indicators of how an election will play out, they’re useless. We don’t even know what the major issues will be and they’re always heavily biased against the sitting government so have to be adjusted, but not by too much etc

  21. I smell some Cambridge analytica type, backed by Murdoch’s media minions! Coming over the hills to bugger the British public’s moral parameters back to the Tudor period.

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